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Bills1873
01-24-2016, 12:35 PM
How about some thoughts on Defensive Carry Insurance. I've been considering the massive defense expense the could be incurred if one was to shoot a BG, even in self defense. Even if you are cleared in criminal court, a civil court case could financially do you in. There's lots of knowledge and experience on this forum, and I listen well.

TimtheRef
01-24-2016, 02:41 PM
You can join the USCCA (United States Concealed Carry Association) who provide pretty good insurance as a benefit to all members. Your level of coverage and benefits can vary based on your level of membership, but I have the highest level that's not a life member, and it's under $24 a month for the membership which also includes a magazine subscription and other bonuses. The insurance provides a retainer, coverage for court costs, coverage for a civil settlement, and a toll free number to connect with a pro 2A attorney in your area. I haven't found anything better. I also have an umbrella policy on me which can help cover me if something happens at home. (But I verified that with my agent, YMMV.) The coverage from USCCA is pretty robust, so I'm a fan. I wouldn't carry without insurance in today's litigious world.

Longitude Zero
01-24-2016, 03:54 PM
Member of CCW Safe. In many states if the prosecuting attorney determines the shooting was justified you are IMMUNE from civil liability. In my state if cleared the courts cannot even accept a filing of a lawsuit.

Planedude
01-24-2016, 03:55 PM
What state do you live in? Different options for different places...

In Texas we have a few policy's available that are "insurance" but most that I have reviewed simply get you a Lawyer to talk with the cops about why you shot or shot at a bad guy. That service is much cheaper. Be sure what other coverage you have (example :homeowners) and try not to overbuy. Any civil matter that comes up in the aftermath will try and nail every source possible for the max payout.

I just want a Firearms specialty lawyer myself...

If it is not highly unlikely that you will ever need your gun in self defense, then save the extra cash and use it to move.:rolleyes:

CJB
01-24-2016, 04:31 PM
Floridians are immune from civil retribution if cleared of criminality. Let me state that another way, if they are not brought to trial based on probable cause or indictment.

RRP
01-24-2016, 04:46 PM
I am a member of: https://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/

The 8 instructional DVDs I received when I joined more than offset the membership fee.

Bills1873
01-24-2016, 04:46 PM
Missouri is my home state, Planedude. I travel for work. Wonder what would happen after a BG pop in another state? Really appreciate the incite from everyone.

Longitude Zero
01-24-2016, 06:17 PM
What state do you live in? Different options for different places...

The Sooner Nation...Oklahoma.

Bills1873
01-24-2016, 08:17 PM
Missouri has immunity laws similar to Florida.

knkali
01-24-2016, 11:38 PM
I have read the fine print on most of the policies out there. CCWSAFE offers the most coverage by far FWIW. Please understand that you are not buying insurance so the companies offering coverage are not held to any standards. You have to hope they can shoulder the $ burden should you need the help.

knkali
01-24-2016, 11:39 PM
Member of CCW Safe. In many states if the prosecuting attorney determines the shooting was justified you are IMMUNE from civil liability. In my state if cleared the courts cannot even accept a filing of a lawsuit.

you live in a State that has common sense. How's that working there?

Bills1873
01-25-2016, 05:51 AM
Midwest seems mostly conservative. Lived here my whole, long life and love it. Appears they are insurance salespeople.

muggsy
01-25-2016, 06:32 AM
I have all of the insurance that I need AIWB and in my RF pocket. If I was sued for everything I'm worth the people who sued me wouldn't be any better off. :)

Bills1873
01-25-2016, 09:40 AM
Got that right Muggsy! Many of us are in the same boat. Can't get blood from a turnip, but they can get that turnip!

knkali
01-25-2016, 12:15 PM
I have all of the insurance that I need AIWB and in my RF pocket. If I was sued for everything I'm worth the people who sued me wouldn't be any better off. :)

Got any equity in a home? Retirement account? Car? They will get what they can.

Bawanna
01-25-2016, 12:24 PM
My luck a prosecutor would use the fact that I have gun insurance (I don't) against me, saying that I have it cause I planned to shoot somebody.

I still maintain, you take lawyers out of the equation and there'd be little need for insurance.

Let common sense prevail, course that all goes out the window the minute you mention lawyer, then its all about $$$$$$.

Bills1873
01-25-2016, 01:26 PM
Thank you Colonel, for adding astute opinion! I value advice of the life-educated, but now I question further whether to become insured or not! You just added an element I had not pondered. Thanks!

Bawanna
01-25-2016, 01:39 PM
Just like the ideal of carrying a weapon and protecting one self, each individual has to decide for themselves.

Next to lawyers, insurance companies are probably my least favorite things. O'Dell not included of course. Insurance is one huge mandatory gambling business and if they don't win, they just up the rates for everybody until the do win.
I've always figured a sure thing would be to invent something and then have it required by law. Money, money, money.



Myself, I will not be seeking out liability firearm coverage.

Bills1873
01-25-2016, 01:43 PM
Who spends the most money on TV advertising? Insurance companies and Pharmaceutical companies!

knkali
01-25-2016, 03:46 PM
My luck a prosecutor would use the fact that I have gun insurance (I don't) against me, saying that I have it cause I planned to shoot somebody.

I still maintain, you take lawyers out of the equation and there'd be little need for insurance.

Let common sense prevail, course that all goes out the window the minute you mention lawyer, then its all about $$$$$$.

That argument can be used for why your changed your sights or trigger as well.

Longitude Zero
01-25-2016, 03:49 PM
you live in a State that has common sense. How's that working there?Very well.