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Bawanna
07-31-2010, 03:51 PM
Don't want to wait till the last minute and let these useless anything goes threads go by the way side. Good place for those things that don't fit anywhere else.
Definitely had some great ones and great photo's (think Angels) last couple months. Best we not cross any PC lines, like I give a ground hogs backside but you know how it is.
Speaking of which where the heck has R2D2 our new PC female redhead lately. Can't remember her secret code name. Mods, please find her and give her a real name with no loss of post count.
How bout Little Red Riding Hood, I'd not want to be a big bad wolf in this story.

ok bye

I still wanna be the indian. Macho macho man!!!! Dietrich your just yummy.

mr surveyor
07-31-2010, 04:23 PM
and here it is.... the thirty-wunth of July.... my birthday....and you want to just skip right past it:confused:

surv

jlottmc
07-31-2010, 04:30 PM
Eh if it makes you feel better, I quit counting after 24, I got my insurance discount, and won't live long enough to see senior anything, so my B-days mean squat to me. If it just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy though Happy Birthday (said with a peppered tongue).

wyntrout
07-31-2010, 04:44 PM
Happy Birthday Surv'!

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

Congratulations!

Wynn:D


Credits: First from Wikipedia. "over the hill" from
Cakes Birthday Adult (http://www.helferspastries.com/adultbirthdaycakes.html)

mr surveyor
07-31-2010, 05:41 PM
There.... I feel better now....

think I ate too much of of Wyn's cake though....it was really good, but didn't seem to mix well with this cheap miller "lawn mower beer" I had after a 5 hour stint doing the yard work.....

Birthdays are highly over rated, but it is nice to still be on the green side of the grass.... and recognize that fact:)


surv

Bawanna
07-31-2010, 05:55 PM
There.... I feel better now....

think I ate too much of of Wyn's cake though....it was really good, but didn't seem to mix well with this cheap miller "lawn mower beer" I had after a 5 hour stint doing the yard work.....

Birthdays are highly over rated, but it is nice to still be on the green side of the grass.... and recognize that fact:)


surv

I posted just to draw ya out. I couldn't remember the exact day of your birth and feel horrible for forgetting.

I wish you a very very happy birthday! Long as your this side of the sod, all is well. Hope you have about a 100 more.

Wynns cake did look scrumtious didn't it? Kind of makes me want to toss it in a bath tub and waller around in it. Dang I gotta quit hangin around with Dietrich. Good influence.

wyntrout
07-31-2010, 06:00 PM
I keep looking at the guy on top of the cake. What the heck is going on there?:confused:
I see his shoes and it seems he has no shirt on, but it kind of looks like his pants are pulled down a bit??
Anyhow, the thought seemed appropriate.:D
Wynn:yo::hippie::popcorn:

mr surveyor
07-31-2010, 10:42 PM
somehow the thought of Bawanna wallering around in the tub with my birthday cake, and Wyn having to point out the fact that the model for the cake was the guy from the 1990's Levi's commercial, has all made me glad that August the wunth will be in less than 20 minutes (CDT), and my birthday will be over. For some reason, all of a sudden I feel...... :puke:


surv

Dietrich
08-01-2010, 07:03 AM
Don't want to wait till the last minute and let these useless anything goes threads go by the way side. Good place for those things that don't fit anywhere else.
Definitely had some great ones and great photo's (think Angels) last couple months. Best we not cross any PC lines, like I give a ground hogs backside but you know how it is.
Speaking of which where the heck has R2D2 our new PC female redhead lately. Can't remember her secret code name. Mods, please find her and give her a real name with no loss of post count.
How bout Little Red Riding Hood, I'd not want to be a big bad wolf in this story.

ok bye

I still wanna be the indian. Macho macho man!!!! Dietrich your just yummy.
Bawanna,I am indeed yummy.Being so attractive is a blessing...and a curse.

O'Dell
08-01-2010, 01:14 PM
I was lucky enough to be born on February 29th, so I don't have to count birthday very often. I've only had 16 of them.

rglbegl
08-01-2010, 01:37 PM
M1A on top = $3600

M1 on bottom = $600

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/rglbegl/SDC10418.jpg

Bawanna
08-01-2010, 01:41 PM
M1A on top = $3600

M1 on bottom = $600

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/rglbegl/SDC10418.jpg

Thats a darn nice M1 for $600 buck! Nice. The M1A is on my list but I won't part with what they go for now days. Hopefully things will mellow out next president and they'll get back down to poor boy reach.
I really want a scout squad in a pretty wood stock. Some day my ship will come in. For the time being I have 2 Full Auto M14's at the dept to fondle and hold me over. I love them sooooo much.

jlottmc
08-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Where are you finding these gems????

rglbegl
08-01-2010, 03:02 PM
The M1a belongs to a friend. He spent $2000 on the rifle, and another $1600 for the optics (Eotech & Sadlac)

The M1 was no where near that clean when I got it. But the barrel was really good, and everything else is easy to fix or replace.

Bawanna
08-01-2010, 03:13 PM
The stock on that M1 is drop dead gorgeous. The are both beautiful. It's sure looking fine now, you done good.

jlottmc
08-01-2010, 03:20 PM
Indeed you did. Tell that friend of yours to learn how to shoot and take those silly optics off. I think the rifle looks better without them. If he wants to spend money on the sighting system, then a set of National Match sights is the way to go. The Garand has a set some where as well. Either way though, beautiful pieces.

rglbegl
08-01-2010, 03:38 PM
His M1A DOES have the National Match sights.
And after shooting my M1 and doing really well with it, I think the optics may be coming off. Really, most military rifles are not meant for supreme accuracy, so why even bother with optics? (just my opinion)

I am still waiting for my stock to get its color. I used RLO, which should give it more of that reddish color after time. It makes it look a little more official with the proper color.

rholmes69
08-02-2010, 07:03 AM
This American guy was sitting at a bar in Scotland, enjoying a pint and watching some football on the television. The next thing he knows some old Scotsman is standing next to him, saying, "You see that wall out there, boy? I built that wall with me own two hands. You think they's call me McCracken the Wall-builder, but they don't."

American, baffled, just nods his head, goes back to his pint and football. A while later the Scotsman gets his attention and says, "You see that church across the road there, boy? I built that church with me own two hands. You think they'd call me McCracken the Church-builder, but they don't." "Um, sorry bout that," says the confused American, turning back to his beer.

Another little while passes. The Scotsman nudges the American again and says, "You see that road out there, Boy? I paved that road with me own two hands. You think they'd call me McCracken the Road-paver, but they don't. But you're with a sheep one time, Boy. One time. . . ."

bps3040
08-02-2010, 10:54 AM
:D saw this on another site, thought I would share





The Queen's Riddle


Barack Obama met with the Queen of England.

He asked her, "Your Majesty, how do you run such an efficient
government?

Are there any tips you can give to me?"

"Well," said the Queen, "the most important thing is to surround
yourself with intelligent people.

"Obama frowned, and then asked, "But how do I know the people around me
are really intelligent?"

The Queen took a sip of tea. "Oh, that's easy; you just ask them to
answer an intelligent riddle."

The Queen pushed a button on her intercom. "Please send Tony Blair in
here, would you?"

Tony Blair walked into the room and said, "Yes, my Queen?"

The Queen smiled and said, "Answer me this please, Tony, your mother and
father have a child. It is not your brother and it is not your sister.
Who is it?"

Without pausing for a moment, Tony Blair answered, "That would be me."

"Yes! Very good," said the Queen.

Obama went back home to ask Joe Biden, his vice presidential choice the
same question.

"Joe, answer this for me. Your mother and your father have a child.
It's not your brother and it's not your sister. Who is it?"

"I'm not sure," said Biden. "Let me get back to you on that one."

He went to his advisors and asked every one, but none could give him an
answer.

Finally, he ended up in the men's room and recognized Colin Powell's
shoes in the next stall. Biden asked Powell,

"Colin, can you answer this for me? Your mother and father have a child
and it's not your brother or your sister. Who is it?"

Colin Powell yelled back, "That's easy, it's me!"Biden smiled, and said,
"Thanks!"

Then, he went back to speak with Obama. "Say, I did some research and I
have the answer to that riddle. It's Colin Powell!"

Obama got up, stomped over to Biden, and angrily yelled into his face,
"No! You idiot! It's Tony Blair!"

AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS PRECISELY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON D.C.

rholmes69
08-02-2010, 11:23 AM
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana.

As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all the other monkeys with cold water. After a while another monkey makes the attempt with same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another
monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put the cold water away. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the
stairs.

To his shock, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one.

The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm.

Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs he is attacked.

Most of the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. After replacing all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.

Why not?

Because as far as they know, that is the way it has always been done around here.

And that, my fellow monkeys, is how Congress operates....
We need to REPLACE all the original monkeys this November.

Bawanna
08-02-2010, 11:29 AM
Good one!

Bawanna
08-03-2010, 09:58 AM
A real man is a woman's best friend. He will never stand her up and never let her down. He will reassure her when she feels insecure and comfort her after a bad day.

He will inspire her to do things she never thought she could do; to live without fear and forget regret. He will enable her to
express her deepest emotions and give in to her most intimate desires. He will make sure she always feels as though she's the most beautiful woman in the room and will enable her to be the most confident, sexy, seductive, and invincible........


No wait... sorry... I'm thinking of wine.


That's what wine does... Never mind....

wyntrout
08-03-2010, 10:09 AM
I love cooking with wine.



Sometimes I even put it in the food.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34182547@N04/4856826067/in/set-72157624645728504/

Bawanna
08-03-2010, 10:21 AM
Me and the missus don't do the grapes. Too many horrible memories of my one encounter. Sometimes the bed still spins just thinking about it.
I guess it's all about moderation of which I had very little.

wyntrout
08-03-2010, 10:35 AM
I've had a few unpleasant experiences because you can't guzzle it like beer... I mean consume large quantities in a short time. I know you CAN, but you'll pay a penalty. That's why alcohol is legal and OTHER recreational drugs aren't. You don't get a hangover from pot... or so I've heard:D

I have a few glasses with dinner, depending on the menu. I get a bottle in restaurants and bring home about 1/3 to 1/2. We have the sensible "Merlot to go" law here... since a few years ago. You used to have to leave your not-cheap unconsumed wine on the table when you left the restaurant. Now they plug it and put it in a sealed bag to go... so we cheap drinkers don't have to chug what's left and then drive home.
Wynn:D

bps3040
08-03-2010, 04:06 PM
:D a couple pictures

Bawanna
08-06-2010, 01:54 PM
Well I guess I get to do a strip search of myself and the chair this evening prior to my departure for the north country tomorrow. I'll try to put together a list of probable no no items I remove from said vehicle.
One of the guys was off for a couple weeks awhile back and decided he'd unload all loaded magazines he had at home, in his car etc. I think he said he ended up with close to 400 rounds. It's one of the prepared for anything cops, on swat, sniper etc. Lots of AR mags, Glock mags, Kimber mags. Probably explains my ammo budget shortcomines as well.
Hopefully I'll get thru the inspection will little fan fare. I hate authority, hate them having so much control over me, am very impatient. Maybe I should just stay home, ya think. I could send #1 son with my wife and #3 son for our 25th. They could show me pictures when they return and it'll be just like I was there. Or not!

Bawanna
08-06-2010, 03:05 PM
FN Belgium Browning High Power 9mm : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=182964572)

Hey any Browning HI Power experts, take a peek at this listing. I've got my finger hovering over the buy now button. I'll probably lose it to one of you guys, boy am I dumb. It looks good to me and seems like a good value. I'd love to have another HI Power in my stable, everyone should have at least one.
I really don't have time to deal with this but one of the detectives said if I wanted it, he'd do the deal while I'm sailing in the big water.

Thoughts, perceptions, I seek guidance?

aray
08-06-2010, 05:59 PM
How bout Little Red Riding Hood, I'd not want to be a big bad wolf in this story.


This who you talking about?

OldLincoln
08-06-2010, 06:53 PM
"They could show me pictures when they return and it'll be just like I was there. Or not!"

No, much better to see pics than be there. Rumor has it that Alaska is often cold, and when not cold has buzzard mosquitoes. They're big as buzzards and make you wish you were dead when they eat you.

Bawanna
08-06-2010, 08:23 PM
I'm really not anxious to go, didn't want to go in the first place but your not helping.
Guess I'll make the most of it, hope the buzzards don't haul me off and I can get back alive.
Just finished going thru chair, got about a coffee can full of stuff I figured I'd better leave behind, cuffs, tools, 3 knives, found 13 45 cases that must have hit the bag at the range, leave nothing behind I always say.
Hopefully I can get thru the metal detector. How I'm gonna go a week without a gun is a huge mystery. Maybe I'll try the wine again, I'll be so busy spinning I won't think of the guns.
I've got people standing by to handle that HI Power listed earlier, still pondering it. Need guidance.

wyntrout
08-06-2010, 08:47 PM
Hey, Bawanna', have fun, man. I hope your trip is fun and you get some good photos to share... and maybe your wife can get some video of you if you have an "adventure".:D
Good luck. Take care and get back safely.
Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-06-2010, 11:17 PM
Thanks Wynn. I just bought that Hi Power on Gunbroker so at least I got something to look forward too when I get home. Hopefully it will be here when I get back. No idea what I'll do with a 9mm but its a Hi Power.
8 original mags, that will hold alot of bullets. I already got a guy that wants 3 so that will help defray the cost a bit.
Bags are packed, all systems go for the north country. I'm told there are computers on the boat so maybe you won't even notice I"m gone. But I suspect my activty coordinator will keep me on the run or on the roll in my case.
Keep it hopping around here.

xaircav
08-07-2010, 08:31 AM
Does anyone else besides me think Elena Kagan looks like Lou Costello?:confused:

jlottmc
08-07-2010, 09:15 AM
Y'all are bound and determined to get me all riled up today...

Bawanna
08-07-2010, 09:21 AM
I feel kind of dumb, had to look up who she is. Add one more to the list of people to get rid of when we take back the country.
Maybe if powdered wigs were required again some of these crooks would not be so interested in messing with my country. Just a thought.

I'm with ryoung, what a terrible slam to Lou.

wyntrout
08-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Bawanna'. I forgot to say that looks like a nice deal on that HP.

Bon voyage! I don't often get to say that!

Hey, if anyone mentions iceberg, get your life jacket on, if you're not wearing it already!:eek:


NO :puke:

Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-07-2010, 10:22 AM
Bawanna'. I forgot to say that looks like a nice deal on that HP.

Bon voyage! I don't often get to say that!

Hey, if anyone mentions iceberg, get your life jacket on, if you're not wearing it already!:eek:


NO :puke:

Wynn:D

Your talking to the original boy scout (be prepared) I'm wearing the life jacket now and haven't even left the house yet. Bodies already saturated with seasick medicine.
I hear the word iceberg, I'm looking for the crewman with the Webley, taking it from him for my collection. Grabbing the first little kid I can find and heading for a life boat. I hate cold water. The captain can go down with the ship if he wants but I still got guns to play with.
Catch ya on the flip side.

wyntrout
08-09-2010, 11:12 AM
Man, I wonder if Turbo BM is having fun, yet??

I found another funny link exploring the "fun" of space travel:

6 Reasons Space Travel Will Always Suck | Cracked.com (http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html)

Hilarious!

Wynn:D

bps3040
08-13-2010, 06:56 AM
DIVORCE AGREEMENT

THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT'S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT!!! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I'LL VOTE FOR HIM.

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem." I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya" or "We Are the World".

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.



Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P. S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you.

P. S. S. And you won't have to press 1 for English when you call our country.

wyntrout
08-13-2010, 07:54 AM
Yep, I would agree to that.

Here's some big money and the story. What they don't say is that the president pictured is the most evil ever POTUS:
In this Aug. 10, 2010 photo, a detail from a sheet of $100,000 gold certificate bills is seen inside a plastic casing at a United States Treasury Department display at the World's Fair of Money in Boston. The bills, introduced in 1934, are the largest denomination ever issued by the federal government. Not meant for public use, the notes were used for federal bank transfers.

Wynn:D

Jim K
08-13-2010, 09:27 AM
I was given a bumper sticker. It reads:

"OBAMA"
"Why Stupid People Shouldn't Vote"



If that pisses you off then .........

Regards to most everyone, Jim K

bps3040
08-14-2010, 08:06 AM
Great idea! :D I heard he was going to call it the "Turban Cowboy"

http://www.waltonandjohnson.com/content/articles/sm_gay-muslim.jpg
Best Idea Ever
This man has got the ULTIMATE of awesome plans for his future business that will neighbor the mosque built at Ground Zero (if it ever gets built).
From Greg Gutfield, BREITBART (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ggutfeld/2010/08/09/investment-opportunity-my-ground-zero-gay-bar/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter):
So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it’s all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.
As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque – after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law – who can stop them?
Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I’ve decided to do the same thing.
I’m announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.
This is not a joke. I’ve already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.
As you know, the Muslim faith doesn’t look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I’m building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.
The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps – but still want to dance.
Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.
My place, however, will have better music.
For investment information, contact me at dailygut.com
And remember, kids, I’m dead serious on this one. (You can tell by the lack of humor in this particular piece).
http://www.waltonandjohnson.com/content/imgs/gay-muslim.jpg

pm9fan
08-14-2010, 08:09 AM
Greg Gutfeld, who hosts a 3 a.m. talk show on Fox, has come up with a brilliant idea. He is going to open a Muslim gay bar next to the Ground Zero mosque to help reduce homophobia among the Islamists and to promote understanding and tolerance between the Islamists and the New York community. It is a masterful send-up of the notion that the Ground Zero mosque would be a symbol of religious tolerance and acceptance instead of a shrine to Islamic victory over us infidels.

Here are the proposed names:

30. Honor Drillings
29. Jihard
28. Filthy Omar’s Rusty Trombone
27. The Arabian Queen
26. Dune Biters
25. Goat’s Night Off
24. The Pink Prophet
23. The Leather Burqa
22. Git Mo
21. Pig in a Poke
20. Sheiks & Freaks
19. Sodom and Gonorrhea
18. Osama Bin Dover
17. The Exploding Goat
16. Weapons of Ass Destruction
15. Alla Assbar
14. Anderson Cooper’s Apartment
13. The Sticky Prophet
12. The Sphinxter
11. Grind Zero
10. Nuclear Fuel Rods
9. Hassan’s TestostoRoom
8. Turbuns
7. Bunker Busters
6. The Tali-bone
5. Al-Jizzera
4. The Gaza Stripper
3. The Sandy Gerbil
2. The Camel’s Hump
1. Hide the Minaret

johnh
08-14-2010, 09:03 AM
Okay guys, keep it clean please. I know, that was funny, but trying to keep it PG-13 here. :D

John

Bawanna
08-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Bawanna survives Alaska!

Well scratch the cruise ship experience off the bucket list. You will never ever ever see me on another cruise ship unless I'm manackled, and heavily sedated.

The crew and personnel were fantastic, the boat was awesome and I was easily able to get whereever I wanted to go. Some of the off loading ramps were a bit challenging but always plenty of help.

Alaska was super nice, pretty much stands up on end but beautiful to look at and as I suspected Skagway was great and the train ride up to White Pass was worth the whole deal.

The down fall of the whole deal beside no guns, which I now totally understand. (Couldnt carry enough ammo and it would be impossible to get around with all the bodies piled up in the aisle) is 2700 of the most rude, inconsiderate passengers from all over the world (mostly not around here). It's like everyone left polite at the dock. They don't look where they are going, They cut off old people and people in wheelchairs who rely on elevators. They meander and stop in heavily travelled pathways to smell the roses or something.

Several told me you just have to do rude and inconsiderate yourself but I just couldn't do it. I was truely stressed and the wife was ticked at me most of the trip and still is. I just can't handle crowds, lines, and rude people. I had to go to the room (which was larger than most hotel rooms I've stayed at, very nice) and lay down and suck my thumb. I even tried to find a binky pacifier to suck on but failed.

The only other deal was it was like 7 days at the circus. The crew is everywhere, one might be cleaning tables one minute and an hour later the star entertainer at a show. Watched a show every night and they were quite well done and obviously they worked hard to put them on.

Where they make money is booze and pop, and jewelry and trinkets. Bought some jackets in Ketchikan, nice place. 20 bucks each. Found the same jackets on the boat for 99.95!!!:eek: The good deal on beer was buy 5, get one free. 6 packs = just under 30 dollars. You get all 6 at once in a bucket of ice. Of course you take the 5 you didn't drink back to the room and put them in the fridge. Next time out of course your thirsty but the beers in your room, 20 minutes away so you just buy more/??? A mixed drink and a beer was like 16 bucks. Think of it as a floating burning barrel to throw money in.

The thing that really tested me was lines for everything. LInes to get on the boat, lines to get off, lines for the elevators (the worst). LInes to eat, lines to shows. We always got to things early to avoid the lines, but the crowds still drove me banana's.
People would stand behind me, lean on the back of my chair and move me back and forth. I tried to just go easy long as I could but a couple times, I just had to enlighten them.

Had a mid 20 obese slob standing in the elevator yesterday. Wife and kid walked past him but he was leaning against the wall with his feet out in the middle, wearing flip flops. I couldn't get past him without running over his inconsiderate feet. I held the doors and explained to him that we had about 3 options. 1. He could stand up like some semblance of a human and get his feet out of the way. 2. I could try rude and inconsiderate and just run over his feet with my power chair (think painful) or my choice 3. I could run over his feet and when he leaned over in pain I could tear his throat out and throw him and his fat body over the rail for fish food. He still looked at me with a blank but knowing stair. I chose 2. He got his feet out of the flip flops in time but I ended up parked on his shoes. This brought applause from the other passengers behind me I didn't realize were there. So I guess I did do rude and inconsiderate once.
Had a fat old woman cut me off as I tried to enter a dedicated derelict restroom. I'd waited for people to pass and opened the door, she stepped over my feet and tried to get in before me, I turned to just continue on but a crew member saw it and ran her wide backside off.

My on board bill over and above the cruise itself, mostly booze (only one or two drinks a day, me and the missus) was 1200.00 bucks. This included the mandatory gratuity for the crew, and room cleaners etc. They earned it, every penny. Made friends with several, they referred to me as Whiskey/Pepsi. I don't think they had a total grasp on english. Basic conversation we were ok but anything off easy stuff they were lost.

I did meet a taxidermist in Ketchikan who I got a big black bear tooth from. He said it was very old, maybe 50 year old (didn't realize they got that old) and he figured at least 500 pounds. He had several teeth with pretty gold mountings for 400 to 500 dollar range, he realized that I was fairly normble compared to most tourist and we shared some hunting stories. He sold me the big one with plain mounting, no gold for 200. 200 for denture work from a bear is insane but I always wanted one, hoped to get my own but this will do. Anyhow a coup for Bawanna in the denture department.

In summary it was the longest 7 day vacation I ever had. I was so happy to get off that boat and out of downtown Seattle and back to my neighborhood. First thing in the house the PM45 went to its normal place and all was right with the world. People with legs could get past alot of my nightmares, so don't let my less that stellar report on cruising influence any future plans you have. I could very well end up back in Alaska for a visit, but I'll be taking my car and more time...........

Crap I'm startin to write like Wynn.

Ok bye

swampman
08-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Welcome back bawana.....:)

MikeyKahr
08-14-2010, 06:26 PM
Welcome back home, we missed you - this place ain't the same without you! Now I know you want to catch up with all of the posts here, but sounds like you may just have a bit of makin' up to do with that wonderful woman of yours. Now that the PM45 is back where it truly belongs and you're back in your comfy confines, time to focus some TLC on the loved one.....Glad you're back!

wyntrout
08-14-2010, 06:29 PM
Oh, thanks... like that's a bad thing. It wasn't too long ago that I brought up the Bucket Mouth List and that seemed to light a fire under your butt and you just took off and left us all in the dust with tire tread marks on our backs...<sniff> :D LMAO.

Hey, thanks for the update. I needed a laugh or two. I hate crowds and standing in lines, too. I will never take a cruise... unless it's on my own boat, and I never go to concerts or rallies and such.

Having fun... real or imagined, costs big bucks. If I hadn't gotten rid of my boat, it wouldn't get used much, especially since gas went up and that thing could really suck up the gas. I bought a Floscan meter that showed instantaneous gas consumption so that I could set the throttle based on best cruising speed for the money... er, gas used... usually around 8 gallons per hour. Wide open was about 18 gph and 42 knots. It was a 175 HP V-6 Ficht Fuel-Injected outboard.
I did have some good cruises on that boat. I miss it but not the money hole in the water I had to keep trying to fill.
The guys that race out to the good offshore fishing holes have 2 to 3, or MORE engines that suck up about 25 gph or more each!

Dang! You got me going there. Anywho, welcome back. I did miss you and am glad you had some fun and got back safely.

Wynn:D

wyntrout
08-14-2010, 07:32 PM
Oh, what was that saying? "Pictures, or it didn't happen!"
:boink:
Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-14-2010, 09:05 PM
I took a tremendous amount of pictures. I'll try to figure out how to get them out of the camera and into the crystal ball. My next big challenge. Wife took the card down to the store and printed out just about the whole batch. Kind of nice to look at them but I'm sure that cost a few boxes of ammo.
I also found out that there is no such thing as freestyle cruising for married guys. I encountered several others standing around jewelry kiosk hanging out while the women groveled shiney stuff.
I lost track of how many times wife would say you wanna go here, which translates to get ready we're going here. I side track to look at something and they would just keep going. Followed my leader around for 7 days. Couldn't be separated from my hearing ear dog, especially with the language barriers all over the place.
I think the one thing that sustained me was knowing my Hi Power was waiting for me on my desk when I got back. I went and picked it up when I got home this morning and it looks way better than I expected.
I shall post pics of that as time allows too.
They did have internet on the boat too but it was 55 dollars for an hour, I was tempted since I really miss you guys but I just couldn't see sitting in front of a computer when there was such good stuff to look at outside the window.
One other thing I just realized is there wasn't many smoking hotties. A few but I didn't fall in love with any. Several pretty asian or japanese or whatever but virtually no temptations. Oh well maybe the wife will chill in a few days.
I only saw 2 guns for sale in 7 days and they were in Skagway. A Ruger 44 Alaskan 50th anniversary that was already sold for 1300 but took pity on me and let me look at it. They also had a Smith Millenium that I looked at thru the case. Didn't bother to hold that one although I probably should have. 7 days with no gun in hands is not good.

wyntrout
08-14-2010, 09:56 PM
I gotta entertain Wifey. Glad you got to handle a few guns at least.

Wifey's watching an episode of House Hunters that we've seen, but she doesn't remember seeing. She's 10 years younger but has episodes of CRS. I guess. :D

I take lots of pictures and rarely print any. About 8 months after my daughter's wedding, I finally got some printed recently... after some urging from my wife. I uploaded a bunch to Wal-Mart online and picked them up locally after they were sent there. That's about the cheapest way... quite a bit cheaper than taking them in to the store OR having the local store do the printing from your uploads

I went to a gun show today and saw a few things I was interested in. I saw the new FHN FNP-45 Tactical Black $1049. That's a decent "Battle" pistol with the raised night sights and a threaded barrel... add suppressor and some appropriate ammo... woohoo!
I'm not crazy about the fat bases on the 15-round magazines, but the firepower is nice.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=180080377#PIC

I didn't see that many kahrs, but the local big dealer had a few and had the CW9's and 40's for $379. they had the regular P380 for $530. Someone else had the CW's for $470 and the CW45 for $570. My expensive range store has the CW45 for $530 all the time.

All I bought was some of that Tetra Gun Grease(1 0z. tube for $5) and the Tetra Gun Lubricant (large 8 oz. squeeze bottle for $11)... Fluoropolymer Penetrating Lubricant and Bore Conditioner. It's supposed to prevent fouling and increase velocity by a tiny bit.

Back to Wifey.

Wynn:D

MikeyKahr
08-14-2010, 10:06 PM
Kind of nice to look at them but I'm sure that cost a few boxes of ammo.

Line of the night in my book, Bawanna45cal. With me being a newbie to all of this, I can see myself thinking in these same terms very soon.

Bawanna
08-14-2010, 10:15 PM
I've found thru experience that money often times doesn't mean enough or sometimes anything at all. Back in an earlier life I was a fence installer and came to price everything by post holes. I'd see something and calculate how many holes I'd have to dig to pay for it, puts things in a whole new perspective and many items got left on the shelf because of this.
After marriage it doesn't take long to equate important purchases that are needed (stuff she wants) and everything else is extra (stuff I want).
I find myself focusing more and more on gun and related purchases and not wasting my time with other frivoulous things like food, booze, clothing etc.
This simplified things immensely into things she gets, and guns I want. Still complicated but basically equals she gets what she wants (and I wouldn't have it any other way) and I do the best I can with the leftover scraps.
I'm good with that.

jlottmc
08-15-2010, 11:51 AM
Welcome back Turbo Bucket Mouth!!! That last post of yours is really how it goes in married life. We get the raw end of the stick...

OldLincoln
08-15-2010, 12:00 PM
Bawanna: From your experience with rude passengers, perhaps the no-gun policy is wise. I can see it now: "Another case of elevator rage on the cruise ship". "This morning at breakfast call, 26 passengers were gunned down by a hungry man in a powered chair. When asked why he did such a terrible thing, he said 'I was hungry and they just stood there blocking my way'." Yep a good thing!

Bawanna
08-15-2010, 01:15 PM
Bawanna: From your experience with rude passengers, perhaps the no-gun policy is wise. I can see it now: "Another case of elevator rage on the cruise ship". "This morning at breakfast call, 26 passengers were gunned down by a hungry man in a powered chair. When asked why he did such a terrible thing, he said 'I was hungry and they just stood there blocking my way'." Yep a good thing!

Yup, while I felt totally naked for a week a gun would have been to great a temptation. Would need a 4 wheel drive chair to get over all the bodies.
I'm glad I got that scratched off the list. Now I need to worry about what my next punishment will be.

I went to a gun show today too. Nothing too exciting, it was pretty hot out. Did see a real nice Winchester 52 rifle that I wanted pretty bad but figured I'd be dead if I brought home another gun this soon. Already got a real nice one, but guess you can't have too many.
Course wife says, you didn't find any guns to buy today honey? Who flipped your switch. Welcome back to dry land.

mr surveyor
08-15-2010, 05:31 PM
Welcome back B

I think skydiving should be next on your list....no lines, no pushing (well, maybe "one push"), no crowds (unless of course the finale' to the jump is less than stellar)

You just described all the exact reasons that I would never agree to a cruise. I don't even like to be in crowds of folks I know, much less a crowd of more than 20-30 folks I don't know. For me, 3-4 days is a long vacation, but even that would seem like a prison sentence if forced to remain on a boat under someone else's control. I also don't like being told what I can and can not carry in my posession. I haven't been on a commercial airplane since they disallowed the carry of a simple pocket knife.

Go fondle your guns:)

surv

Bawanna
08-15-2010, 06:48 PM
I've been fondling since I got home. I haven't flown either since BC (before chair). I guess it can be a nightmare in itself.
I think a walkin person could bob and weave and not get so hung up on a cruise ship and it did have some pluses but I just can't handle crowds,lines and especially inconsiderate. Just to old school and impatient I guess.
While I never had no desire to jump out of a perfectly good airplane, I do like the idea of the solitude on the way down. It definitely would require a good push and probably someone to pry my fingers off the door frame.
Wonder if I could survive the shear terror until I hit the ground either as planned or hard?

getsome
08-16-2010, 02:02 PM
Welcome back Bawann, Glad you didn't get turned into a steaming pile of bear poo....We missed ya man...I know what you mean about cruse ships...At first it sounded like a fun thing to do but after being on that overbooked ship for 4 days I was ready to get off but the port calls weren't much fun either because it's hurry up, do this, do that, go here and go there as fast as possible and get back to the stinking ship so you don't get left behind...I think next time I will fly to where ever I want to spend a week at and relax and enjoy my stay....I guess it's old age but I don't deal with crowds very well any more at all...I mean I love everybody but I just can't stand people!!!...

Bawanna
08-16-2010, 02:20 PM
Welcome back Bawann, Glad you didn't get turned into a steaming pile of bear poo....We missed ya man...I know what you mean about cruse ships...At first it sounded like a fun thing to do but after being on that overbooked ship for 4 days I was ready to get off but the port calls weren't much fun either because it's hurry up, do this, do that, go here and go there as fast as possible and get back to the stinking ship so you don't get left behind...I think next time I will fly to where ever I want to spend a week at and relax and enjoy my stay....I guess it's old age but I don't deal with crowds very well any more at all...I mean I love everybody but I just can't stand people!!!...

Perfect description. 7 days felt like 7 months to me. Someone told me the guy in the chair that the pirates shot and threw overboard taunted them into doing it. I would have begged or perhaps just jumped myself after about day 3. Just the people, and rude discourteous. Plus every port 3000 of ya get off and hit the tourist traps together and in some stops there were 5 ships at once, so often times it was 15,000 or so hitting town all at once.
No wonder I who usually don't drink had such a large bar tab.
They told me this morning at work, welcome back to he!!. I said au contraire, I've been in he!! for a week, this is merely purgatory.

OldLincoln
08-16-2010, 06:02 PM
Church Trivia Night

I lost the trivia contest at the church social last night by one point – the last question was:

“Where do most women have curly hair?





Apparently the correct answer is: Africa




I’ve been asked to find another place to worship.

kahrseye
08-16-2010, 06:25 PM
Church Trivia Night

I lost the trivia contest at the church social last night by one point – the last question was:

“Where do most women have curly hair?





Apparently the correct answer is: Africa




I’ve been asked to find another place to worship.

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are, that's funny.:001_tt2:

Jeremiah/Az
08-16-2010, 07:16 PM
I was telling my girlfriend about Bawanna, his being deaf & his hearing ear dog(post #52) & that I didn't know if there was such a thing. She said that maybe it tells him when the phone rings. I said what is he,Bawanna, gonna do,look at the phone? She is blonde! We laughed hard!

Bawanna
08-16-2010, 07:28 PM
Yeah people tell me all the time, call me, or I'll call you. I tell em good luck with that. When the wife is ticked at me, someone will call and she'll just hand me the phone. This of course really pleases me and fills me with confidence and self worth. The last time it happened I told the caller that my hearing ear dog as sick and I was thinking of taking her to the pound and having her put down. Hasn't happened again since but I know it's coming.

Given the choice of a great pair of working legs or ears, I think I'd choose legs first. Heck I could be president if I had legs. Ooops, forgot the stanards so low now I guess you don't need to hear to be president.
Just be able to bow and read a teleprompter.

The monkeys coming to Washington to stump for a Senator we all hate. Anyone want to be my spotter?

Jeremiah/Az
08-16-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm pretty hard of hearing from shooting all those years without hearing protection & listening to my anvil ring( horseshoer). I have learned to read lips pretty well. My ex & girlfriend now will look out the passenger side window & talk to me in the truck. Of course, I can't hear or see them. After a while they wonder why I am ignoring them & face me, usually a bit riled up! I have been told by guys at the gun club their women do that too. I tried hearing aids & they drove me crazy(er) 'cause I heard to many things I don't want to, breathing, chewing, etc.

Bawanna
08-17-2010, 09:13 AM
Yeah hearing aids can drive you nuts. I'm totally out of commission without them now. I was shocked that the microwave did all kinds of beeping when you push the buttons and let out a blood curdling sound when your stuff is done. Never heard it before.
Your done in a crowd too, just too much sensory overload and of course someone wants to talk to ya. Might as well go tinkle in the wind. Ain't gonna happen.

bps3040
08-17-2010, 09:49 AM
From papers across the world...who has free press?

OldLincoln
08-17-2010, 11:34 AM
No kidding about blaming Bush. The article below was written by a liberal that caught on. Kind of small print but hopefully you can see it.

http://kahrtalk.com/members/oldlincoln-albums-oldlincolns-pm9-picture318-its-all-bushs-fault.jpg

Bawanna
08-17-2010, 05:00 PM
SUPERCALAFRAGALISTICEXPEALADOCIOUS

There !.....................I have always wanted to say that.
Glad I finally found a place to do it.




Well gosh darn it. I wanted to do that but I couldn't even get the spellin close enough to find it in my funk&wagnell. Well done.......

Maybe I'll stay home tomorrow and watch chitty chitty bang bang in your honor. Your awesome.

Bawanna
08-18-2010, 01:23 PM
Can you believe the pomp and circumstance caused by a little 2 seater float plane stumbling into the monkeys' 10 mile no fly zone so he can stump for a lousey female career senator. Scrambled two fighter jets from Oregon (hundreds of calls concerned about the sonic booms:eek:).
D for forward, R for backward my backside. We gotta send this fella back to Illinois or perhaps his birth country butt quick! An all his cabinet, every last one. Deport em all for conspiracy.
I can't even comprehend these idiots believing what comes out of their own mouths....................

Ohmm, hari krishna, oohmmm hari krishna.

wyntrout
08-19-2010, 12:27 PM
Hey, Turbo! Congrats on surpassing 3,000 posts. You're responsible for almost 10% of the 32,000 or so posts. You must have accidentally imparted a little wisdom..., er, knowledge with some of those. :boink: :D

I'm still waiting on FedEx to come by so I can take a nap. Wifey's entering Arizona airspace and should be landing is less than half an hour.

It's almost 94° outside and I need to mow the grass, but I'm hoping for rain before it cools down below 90°! Rain... nap...:p

Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-19-2010, 12:34 PM
I can't help ya with Fed Ex or the weather. Well I can control the weather but I don't wanna show off.
If your missus gets in a jam out here let us know. Shes closer to us now than you. I got people in AZ and we can track down MX5fan if need be while I'm enroute with the calvary.
There's been no recent uprisings round these parts lately and all the tribes are peaceful at the moment so I suspect she'll be just fine.
As for the 3000, I suspect just loose fingers, or loose lips. Not to up on that wisdom and knowlege stuff. I am a graduate of the school of hard knocks, no doubt related to the wolves doing the head drop thing. And a degree in been there done that. Never did get my diploma.

wyntrout
08-19-2010, 01:20 PM
Her plane landed safely on time and I'm sure she's outside the airport smoking a cigarette and visiting with her sister.

This is a handy site to keep up with the flights:

http://flightaware.com/live/

It was neat that she had a 3-hour layover there and her sister could get off work to see her.
I hate airports... kind of like the cruise ship thing... too controlled... no CCW., and HIGH prices.

I was posting info on the Tetra lubricants I just got at the gun show and I actually read the instructions off the photos... I learned I shoulda read the instructions first.:rolleyes:

Wynn:D

wyntrout
08-19-2010, 02:11 PM
I just Googled "Bawanna45cal" and got" About 3,670 results (0.23 seconds)"

wyntrout got About 2,740 results (0.36 seconds)

jocko got About 2,450,000 results (0.68 seconds) ! Holy crap! But that includes a lot of jockos... even Michael Jackson.

jocko Kahr gave About 13,900 results (0.44 seconds)

wyntrout Kahr gave 9 results (0.32 seconds)

DANG!! Wynn Kahr gave About 37,900 results (0.64 seconds)

Wynn:D

jocko
08-19-2010, 02:41 PM
and your point???????

wyntrout
08-19-2010, 02:46 PM
Our Muslim buddies are making news again:

Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_justice)

Good old Islamic "Justice", though this is intriguing... eye for an eye kind of thing.

Over here the lawyers wet themselves and decry the cruelty and inhumanity of using intravenous injections for the death penalty... and now some whack-job judge has said it's okay to lie about military awards (Stealing Valor) because it's some *$$hole's First Amendment Right to claim that he won the Medal of Honor.
So NOW it's a FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to LIE!!... about anything....???

Wynn:31:

wyntrout
08-19-2010, 02:47 PM
and your point???????

EXACTLY!

Wynn:D

bps3040
08-19-2010, 03:49 PM
Funny :D

bps3040
08-19-2010, 03:50 PM
truth :D

wyntrout
08-20-2010, 02:57 PM
Hot off the press... er In Box:



Old Lady and Garbage Bags


A little old lady is walking down the street dragging two large plastic garbage bags behind her. One of the bags rips, and every once in a while a $20 bill falls out onto the sidewalk.

Noticing this, a policeman stops her, and says, "Ma'am, there are $20 bills falling out of your bag."

"Oh, really? Darn," says the little old lady. "I'd better go back, and See if I can find them. Thanks for telling me..."

"Well, now, not so fast," says the cop. "How did you get all that money? You didn't steal it, did you?"

"Oh, no,' says the little old lady. You see, my back yard is right next to the football stadium parking lot. On game days, a lot of fans come and pee through the fence into my flower garden. So, I stand behind the fence with my hedge clippers. Each time some guy sticks his thing through the fence, I grab it and I say, "$20 or off it comes!"

"OK, that seems only fair," laughs the cop. "So, good luck. Oh, by the way, what's in the other bag?"

"Well, you know", says the little old lady, "not everybody pays."


Ouch!:eek:

Wynn:D

O'Dell
08-21-2010, 02:15 PM
Yeah hearing aids can drive you nuts. I'm totally out of commission without them now. I was shocked that the microwave did all kinds of beeping when you push the buttons and let out a blood curdling sound when your stuff is done. Never heard it before.
Your done in a crowd too, just too much sensory overload and of course someone wants to talk to ya. Might as well go tinkle in the wind. Ain't gonna happen.

Hey Bawanna, what do you think of hearing aids? My audiologist says I have 60% in the left and 70% in the right ear, but practically nothing above 1400 KH. My whole adult life has been spent around jet engines, race cars and motorcycles, and guns. I never used hearing protection until about 10 or 12 years ago. The kicker came about six months ago when I accidentally popped off five rounds of 45, forgetting that I had taken my ears off in the echo chamber they call a range. Suddenly my ears felt like they were full of wax and both were ringing. The feeling or ringing never went away.

I have a lot of trouble with cell phones and higher pitched voices on TV and find myself saying "huh" a lot in conversations with background noise. I've talked to a couple of hearing aid companies, and they say they can help. However, I'm not sure and also a bit vain about the aids.

No one that I know uses them, so I can't ask a friend. [except you]

Bawanna
08-21-2010, 05:58 PM
Hey Bawanna, what do you think of hearing aids? My audiologist says I have 60% in the left and 70% in the right ear, but practically nothing above 1400 KH. My whole adult life has been spent around jet engines, race cars and motorcycles, and guns. I never used hearing protection until about 10 or 12 years ago. The kicker came about six months ago when I accidentally popped off five rounds of 45, forgetting that I had taken my ears off in the echo chamber they call a range. Suddenly my ears felt like they were full of wax and both were ringing. The feeling or ringing never went away.

I have a lot of trouble with cell phones and higher pitched voices on TV and find myself saying "huh" a lot in conversations with background noise. I've talked to a couple of hearing aid companies, and they say they can help. However, I'm not sure and also a bit vain about the aids.

No one that I know uses them, so I can't ask a friend. [except you]

In your place I'd get ya some. You have enough hearing that you can really benefit from them and they got some really neat new technology out there that much improves the quality of the sounds you hear. They will drive you bawanna, I mean banana's at first, picking up all the little sounds and background noises your missing now. You can probably get the small ones that go in your ear rather than hang on the back.
They are bad like in a group, a noisey restaurant, that sort of thing, you'll be overwelmed. They do have different modes so you can dial in whats in front of you and tone down all the garbage around you. You at least have the option of turning it off and putting it in your pocket. I have no hearing on my right side at all and without my hearing aid I can't hear my lawn mower run and feel more than hear a gun shot. Although I've not been trained they tell me I'm reading lips more than anything else.
The tenititis or ringing in the ears is what really messes with ya. Mine comes and goes mostly in my dead right ear but it's just a constant dial tone that just don't go away.
You have the same type of loss as me though, loss of the high pitched loss which sucks cause you proposition girls and then you can't hear the answer, how sad is that.
I'd get ya some, be ever vigilant about your hearing protection now so you don't lose anymore. Your missing alot of noises out there, some good, some not worth bothering with. On a good day I can hear the microwave beeping, kind of a cool thing. The phones out of the question although aides do have a mode for that too. And I get some help, just too much of a struggle.
Proud to be your only hearing impaired friend, anything I can do to help grease the skids, I'm your man.

bps3040
08-21-2010, 06:20 PM
New business opportunity!


Working on a line of landmines that look just like prayer mats. I expect prophets will be going through the roof!


saw this on another site, lol, thought I would share

O'Dell
08-22-2010, 09:52 AM
In your place I'd get ya some. You have enough hearing that you can really benefit from them and they got some really neat new technology out there that much improves the quality of the sounds you hear. They will drive you bawanna, I mean banana's at first, picking up all the little sounds and background noises your missing now. You can probably get the small ones that go in your ear rather than hang on the back.
They are bad like in a group, a noisey restaurant, that sort of thing, you'll be overwelmed. They do have different modes so you can dial in whats in front of you and tone down all the garbage around you. You at least have the option of turning it off and putting it in your pocket. I have no hearing on my right side at all and without my hearing aid I can't hear my lawn mower run and feel more than hear a gun shot. Although I've not been trained they tell me I'm reading lips more than anything else.
The tenititis or ringing in the ears is what really messes with ya. Mine comes and goes mostly in my dead right ear but it's just a constant dial tone that just don't go away.
You have the same type of loss as me though, loss of the high pitched loss which sucks cause you proposition girls and then you can't hear the answer, how sad is that.
I'd get ya some, be ever vigilant about your hearing protection now so you don't lose anymore. Your missing alot of noises out there, some good, some not worth bothering with. On a good day I can hear the microwave beeping, kind of a cool thing. The phones out of the question although aides do have a mode for that too. And I get some help, just too much of a struggle.
Proud to be your only hearing impaired friend, anything I can do to help grease the skids, I'm your man.

Hey, thanks a lot, Bawanna. I really appreciate the good advice. Like you, I think I rely on lip reading with conversation in a noisy environment. The TV thing is sort of funny. I occasionally watch reruns of CIS, Miami, and I can't understand a thing Calleigh says unless she's facing the camera. Fortunately my eyesight is 20-20 and I can still see her.

Vickie has a contralto voice so I can always hear her complaining about something I did or didn't do. That seems to happen a lot.

Bawanna
08-22-2010, 10:14 AM
First thing the doc asked me. You can't hear woman in general or you just can't hear your wife. He called it selective hearing loss!

Mine isn't afraid to yell at me and one of her signs of being mad at me is to leave me hanging. If I dont' understand someone I just look to her, if she's mad she ignores me.

The part that ticks us both off is she says something, of course I never hear it the first time, so she yells at me which is often times confused with nagging which of course it usually is anyhow. Or she'll say are you ready to go and I'll say go where, and she'll blow up and say I told you we were going to xyz. Usually she didn't. Many people don't even bother to talk to ya cause they know you won't hear and they don't want to waste the time. My kids even go thru that from time to time.

Sometimes quiet is nice.................

Starkey seems to be a lead player in the hearing machine market. They aren't cheap, my last one was close to 3 grand but I need all the power I can get. My beagle got it during the night and chewed it up beyond repair about a month out of warranty. Had to do it again. Darn beagle.

Don't do like my friends mom. He went over to visit her shortly after 2 new aides. Found them floating in a glass of water next to her teeth. True story. Got one working, other had to be replaced. Good warranties when they are new. If you lose it or anything at all they replace em usually.

Steve-$
08-22-2010, 10:47 AM
I tell my wife that my hearing loss is from being at the power plant for so long, but she doesn't buy into it.

:D

rholmes69
08-22-2010, 10:02 PM
Pair of jumper cables walks into a bar.

Bartender says, "Look, I'll serve ya, just don't start anything..."

Was told this by a 9 yr old today. I howled with laughter.

OldLincoln
08-23-2010, 10:49 AM
Hey Bawanna, what do you think of hearing aids? My audiologist says I have 60% in the left and 70% in the right ear, but practically nothing above 1400 KH. My whole adult life has been spent around jet engines, race cars and motorcycles, and guns. I never used hearing protection until about 10 or 12 years ago. The kicker came about six months ago when I accidentally popped off five rounds of 45, forgetting that I had taken my ears off in the echo chamber they call a range. Suddenly my ears felt like they were full of wax and both were ringing. The feeling or ringing never went away.

I have a lot of trouble with cell phones and higher pitched voices on TV and find myself saying "huh" a lot in conversations with background noise. I've talked to a couple of hearing aid companies, and they say they can help. However, I'm not sure and also a bit vain about the aids.

No one that I know uses them, so I can't ask a friend. [except you]Well now you know two who uses them. My troubles came from the USAF and jet engines. Even though I ALWAYS wore the mickey mouse ears, the inlet squeal from KC-135 engines got to me. 10 years later first one ear then the other popped and began ringing and haven't even slowed down since. That was 40 years ago and at the time hearing aids would not help as my hearing was normal up to about 2500 then sloped to 4000 where they dropped to the 90db loss.

Like you and others I lip read and filled in the blanks. I did okay up to 10 years ago where the blanks became harder to fill and I started getting whole words wrong. Finally I went to the VA who recognize the MOS (a/c mechanic) as an assumption of fault in my type of loss and today I have a VERY nice pair of aids.

Assuming you were in the USAF, if your test is fair until it falls off the table at higher levels, you might want to apply for a service connected disability. It takes patience to wait it out (about a year for me) but then you have lifetime coverage.

My aids are Phonak Exelia Art Micros. A behind the ears unit you almost cannot see with transparent tubes going into the ear. I told my friends I have them and they looked hard without seeing them until I tipped my head and pointed so forget about the looks factor.

These aids are magic! They adjust to the background environment and I forget they are there. I came close to jumping into the pool with grandkids but my wife caught me.

I suggest you visit the Hearing Aid Forum (http://www.hearingaidforums.com/index.php) to learn all about this stuff. They sure helped me. I always go by OldLincoln so you will see me there once in a while. Please just ignore my whining now and then.

Bawanna
08-23-2010, 11:04 AM
I can sure relate to missing whole words. I miss whole conversations. I hate when I bring up a subject at the dinner table or wherever only to have everyone laugh and advise that that's what they've been talking about for the last 10 minutes. Also the humiliation of an invisible handicap. People see the hearing aid so they go to the other side which in my case don't work at all. A blind man has the white cane, a deaf guy is just stupid or something.
Probably one of my worst goofs was at a class reunion, (my wifes). Which I enjoy also since all of my high school girlfriends were in her class. We were talking to one and she mentioned my wife must have had some work done. I understood her to say does she work. I said of course.
She meant she had a boob job or a something. Wife never corrected her at the time and informed me of the error later. Big help that is.
It's getting harder and harder at work, sometimes I just don't get the conversation at all, very frustrating to say the least.
If it weren't for email and this forum, I'd probably be near completely incommunicado. Hard to comprehend for a turbo bucket mouth such as myself but maybe theres some clues here.

Bawanna
08-23-2010, 11:22 AM
Tomorrow is our 25th Anniversary, following a 13 year engagement preceded by about a 8 or 10 year dating sequence. (never lived in sin for anyone wondering)

Thought I'd do something really special and out of character, (sort of a Dietrich if you get my drift). Asked my daughter to check for me (audio challenged) on the price of 25 long stem roses delivered to her work tommorrow morning. Daughter says probably 30 bucks with a vase. I told her I didn't think that was even close and I didn't want a vase anyhow. I wanted them in a box like they use to sneak tommy guns into gangster weddings.
:eek::eek: I was once again correct. 145 dollars into the compost pile in a couple weeks. One of the girls here feeling sympathy for me but likes my wife better said maybe she could make potpourri out of em. I of course being the wizard that I am had to ask what potpourri is, thinking maybe like meth or whacky backy. But alas it's just smelly stuff you do I know not what with.
I've never been a real flower guy, I like em growing in the yard but I'd rather purchase something that will collect dust on the shelf in 20 or 30 years.
Thought I'd take her to dinner now but it probably wouldn't be right to do the McDonalds 1$ meal. Although we ate there on our wedding night, still clueless why after all these years.
Well I was flush for awhile, me an money never seem to stay together long anyhow.

wyntrout
08-23-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't know if all of you retired military... not sure if just USAF... took advantage of the Combat Related Special Compensation. I was rated 20% disabilities by VA and get $243 a month, BUT, being retired, the USAF took that much out of my retired pay. 10% is for tinnitus and I applied for the CRSC and got 10% or $123 a month for that. I have half a dozen or so things that are VA disabilities, but many, like high frequency hearing loss, are ZERO disability ratings... no allowance. I don't know if you have to be retired to be eligible, either.
When I applied and was awarded the CRSC, it was retroactive to 1 Jan 2004, the date of the newly defined requirements. I got about $5800 lump sum after a few months.
The f'ing government giveth, and taketh back, and giveth a little bit back.
It would sure be worth your while to look into this. The disability can be broadly connected to service training for combat... pretty liberal. The VA and CRSC are not taxable.
Check it out!
Wynn:)

OldLincoln
08-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Geeze, Bawanna! You could have been me for years before I got my aids. Since I could hear vowels better than consonants, I misread words causing some hurt feelings and dumb looks. This English language is tough if you hear only parts of words.

In noisy environments I'd tell my group that i was pretty much deaf here and signing off. I enjoyed others enjoying them selves, but missed my computer. If they wanted to say something they would touch my arm and shout, but it was seldom worth the trouble.

My aids have a "Zoom" feature where I can push a button on either side and that mics gets louder while piping the sound via bluetooth to the other side and mutting the mic on the off side. I set the Zoom on her and I can hear her and the others better. Background noise is always going to be a problem but now it becomes manageable.

Bawanna, if your aids aren't cutting it you may want to consider upgrading. Hearing is wonderful, especially after 40 years of being left out.

OldLincoln
08-23-2010, 11:43 AM
The VA never mentioned making the benefits retroactive to me. Would have been nice but since I would have settled for a pair of Costco hearing aids I won't complain. Also, I recall that my disability is 10% for tinnitus, not hearing loss. So if you apply, do it because of the constant ringing in your ears that drives you batty.

Bawanna
08-23-2010, 11:53 AM
My aides do all that with the new digital technology too. Trouble is my hearing is so poor that they help increase sound and do alot to sort it all out but I still don't get enough definition. The one I have now is a huge improvement over the non digital one I had before and they are still coming out with stuff.
One place I went to had a machine they plugged me into that basically made me hear even in my dead ear. It was the size of a small pickup truck but I told them I'd just get a trailer or whatever, I wanted that machine.
The guys here would really like to see me hear again, they miss my outburst at dept meetings when the brass says something stupid. I'm the only one sore lacking in brains to call em on it. They all agree, just too afraid to apply brutal honesty.

wyntrout
08-23-2010, 11:55 AM
That's what I'm talking about. I got the CRSC for my tinnitus (10%)... caused by gunfire(no ear protection at firing range in basic training!), explosions, aircraft ground equipment (ground power carts are essentially jet turbine engines), and training flights in the B52's ... VERY noisy inside during flight, let alone outside with engines running.
It's all services and you must be retired and receiving VA compensation offset from your retirement pay >= 10%. Check it out. You can download forms and apply... it can't hurt to try.
Link:
Combat Related Special Compensation - Military Benefits - Military.com (http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/special-pay/combat-related-special-compensation)
They've been begging people to apply for this whether you think you're eligible or not.
Retroactive and $123 a month tax free for 10% rating. It's worth checking out... unless you just don't need the money. :)
Wynn

I made a new thread for this under General Discussion. "
Attention MILITARY RETIREES ** CRSC ** "

O'Dell
08-23-2010, 08:44 PM
I think that your age at the time of exposure may be a factor in the loss. Of course it may be cumulative like radiation. I was a teen when I spent two days at the range qualifying and trying various weapons. I never noticed anything at the time. When I was in the Med we used to go to the armory and each check out a Thompson. Then we would take all the 45 ammo we could carry back to the open area at the rear of the hanger deck. We could spend hours throwing stuff into the wake and shooting at it. Again, no problem noted, and of course, no ear protection. I spent 14 years in the Navy with 4 years in college, 1 & 1/2 years in flight training and 8+ in the fleet. During my fleet time, I spent hours on the hanger and flight decks with F-4's, A-4's, A-7's A-6's and A-5's screaming just feet away. Unless I had my helmet on, I had no protection. Of course, even below decks, it's never quiet on a carrier.

I think it was later in my car and motorcycle racing days that I started noticing a ringing in my left ear. I wore ear plugs when driving or riding, but never in the pits. The ringing became constant about then, and although I probably had some permanent loss, I didn't really notice. This went into my mid 40's.

It was the incident a few months ago with the 45 when my right ear started ringing too, and I noticed the hearing loss on the cell and when watching TV. I noticed because it was sudden, not gradual. My audiologist said that the the noise exposure over 40+ years caused most of the problems, but the one incident was the final straw, so to speak. At any rate, that's where I am now.

wyntrout
08-23-2010, 11:36 PM
I didn't know what tinnitus was until 1996 when my wife retired and said I should get a check up with the VA for disabilities. That wasn't really emphasized when I retired in '88. From the mid 70's at least, I had problems with the hearing tests... had my own tones.
Being on flight status, I had lots of hearing tests, sometimes monthly and even got grounded for a month to see if my hearing would improve. I tried to push the button in hearing tests with some kind of regularity that gave some results, though my tones masked their tones.
I remember being confused several times when I would push the button for MY tone and then I would hear an obvious tone they were sending. I used to tell the technicians to start the test ASAP before my tones started... didn't help.
I guess no one knew much about tinnitus then. The VA tested me at Wilford Hall in San Antonio with the usual audio chamber... I essentially pushed on the button immediately and didn't hear a break to let off the button. They did an MRI to see if I had a tumor or something causing the hearing loss/problem. Then they gave me a different kind of hearing test where they put electrodes on my head and measured my reactions to the tones they generated. I just sat there for that one. I had to do aural word recognition tests, too.
I wound up with 10% disability for tinnitus and a zero rating for my hearing loss disability.
I use a fan and air cleaner when I sleep that helps mask the noise a bit, but it can really intrude sometimes when it's sort of quiet.
I have pretty good high frequency hearing loss in my left ear and can't hear beepers and alarms on that side. My right ear's not too bad, but a timer will go off and I can't tell where the heck it is... even if it's right in front of me, it sounds like it's somewhere else. THAT drives me nuts sometimes.
Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-24-2010, 09:25 AM
I always tell the hearing tester to give me beeps, not a solid tone so I can sort out my tones and theirs. I feel your pain on the direction thing too. With just one ear I sometimes have no idea where a sound is coming from.
Ironically this is one of the reasons I didn't get into the military. Put a bunch of us in a chamber maybe 10 or 12 of us to do hearing test. Apparently a hippie type couple chairs over was messing with them or something. Big burly guy mistakenly came in and started whooping on me and physically drug me out of the chamber beating me the whole time. I got tired of it and started fighting back which didn't help things in the slightest. Another fella came over and told the guy beating me that he'd grabbed the wrong guy.
Anyhow I ended up sitting in an office with some big high level dude in my underwear. He said due to my color blindness and deteriorating hearing I would not be accepted but to come back if we got in a big war. Didn't need guys at the time. He also said if I had been accepted I'd have to be court martialed for fighting an officer. As it were he said assault charges might be pending but he had seen it and would do his best to avoid that. I told him that his guy started it and I had done nothing wrong. Never heard anything more and the army didn't take me either. I felt so unwanted but I was lucky I guess.

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 11:01 AM
Well gang I find myself reevaluating what I considered a waste of money, buying flowers. I sent my wife of 25 years yesterday 25 roses at her work. I'm now a local hero and all around good guy to everyone I meet.
Went from grumpy ole ahole bastard to instant sweetest man alive.
Wife told me this morning to order up a gun for our anniversary. So taken by surprise I've forgotten my current want list. Probably still get beat up if I buy one. (like to do it anyway, she told me too. Right?)
Anyhow this flower sending might not be a bad investment afterall.

jlottmc
08-25-2010, 11:10 AM
I got three words for flowers... Vermont Teddy Bear. SOOOOO much better than flowers, but be warned, wield the power of the bear wisely.

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 11:19 AM
Sounds like it might last a bit longer too. I like things that last awhile. I gotta go to Vermont to get one?

MikeyKahr
08-25-2010, 11:38 AM
Don't need to cross-country it to Vermont, Bawanna45cal. http://www.vermontteddybear.com

Good call on the flowers, thankful to hear they were so well received!


Sounds like it might last a bit longer too. I like things that last awhile. I gotta go to Vermont to get one?

jlottmc
08-25-2010, 11:58 AM
That be the website Mikey. Great things I have gotten from them. I garuntee that you will do no wrong for no less than a month with the bear. Just don't do it so often that it is a cheapened thing. I would have one of them sent to her job. Play it off like the event is no big deal, just go to Chik-Fil-a for breakfast, and don't let her know about the bear. When she gets home after getting that...WOW.

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 12:17 PM
Now that's what I'm talking about! You guys rock. These things could sit on a special shelf so once in awhile she'd see it and remember that on rare occasions I'm a thoughtful caring guy.

Heck some I wouldn't mind having myself. Can't wait to apply this new strategy in the home keep things mellow and happy game.

Good stuff.

jlottmc
08-25-2010, 12:23 PM
I should have told you about that sooner huh. Sorry bout that.

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 12:27 PM
Well the flowers worked awesome for this trip. One less time I have to play the Teddy Bear card. I can see where it needs to be kept special, not abused or used recklessly.
I still got time.

getsome
08-25-2010, 12:40 PM
Hey Bawann, Forget the bear and just get her a Teddy!!!!!....:D

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 12:46 PM
The ideas get better and better here. And for the record I know what a Teddy is so that's a positive thing in itself.
I'm sure now with internet I don't have to sneak around Victoria's Secret like Dietrich to buy one and carry out in a plain brown wrapper.
I can have it sent to work and show all my female coworkers and get approval before delivery.
I just love this place, get so much good information and sometimes we even talk about guns.
I gotta write all this stuff down in my strategy play book so I don't forget......

Speaking of two timing, where the heck is Jocko these days. Still astride that Harley I suspect, darn greasy bikers and their two wheelers without training wheels.....I'm so darn jealous.

johnatw
08-25-2010, 01:25 PM
Subject: FW: Cute Story



Little Bruce and Jenny are only 10 years old, but they know they are in
love.

One day they decide that they want to get married, so Bruce goes to Jenny's
father to ask him for her hand.

Bruce bravely walks up to him and says, "Mr. Smith, me and Jenny are in love
and I want to ask you for her hand in marriage."

Thinking that this was just the cutest thing, Mr. Smith replies, "Well
Bruce, you are only 10..
Where will you two live?"

Without even taking a moment to think about it, Bruce replies, "InJenny's
room.
It's bigger than mine
and we can both fit there nicely."

Still thinking this is just adorable,
Mr. Smith says with a huge grin,
"Okay, then how will you live?
You're not old enough to get a job.
You'll need to support Jenny."

Again, Bruce instantly replies, "Our allowance, Jenny makes five bucks a
week and I make 10 bucks a week.
That's about 60 bucks a month,
so that should do us just fine."

Mr. Smith is impressed
Bruce has put so much thought into this.

"Well Bruce,
it seems like you have everything figured out.
I just have one more question.
What will you do if the two of you should have little children of your
own?"

Bruce just shrugs his shoulders and says, "Well, we've been lucky so far."

Mr. Smith no longer thinks the little **** is adorable

Bawanna
08-25-2010, 01:27 PM
Oh, good one. I'll just bet he don't think its funny no mo.

wyntrout
08-26-2010, 02:32 AM
Dang! I like to have choked on that... good one.

My wife got back from Colorado just before midnight the 24th. The weather was okay and the tide was just right... low at 3:20 PM, so we went to the beach. At Huguenot Beach just north of the jetties, we drive on the beach... cost me $3 for the van.

Mid-afternoon at low tide is just perfect... with the sun behind us and blocked enough by the vehicle to keep from having to lather up with sunblock. :D And, it's not crowded like on the weekends.

I opened the rear doors up and we have coolers and a potty so we're comfy. We watched birds, helicopters, ships, and people... no pretty young women that I noticed... on the sly, of course. I did see a Rosie O. look-alike that blocked the ocean view for a bit. :D I fed the seagulls a bunch of stale bread that we had accumulated in the freezer for that. I like tossing pieces of bread to specific birds... on the ground is okay, but in the air is more fun. The birds were pretty lazy and stayed on the ground more than usual, but still fun.

We saw two fortyish guys that weren't "together" but in the same area, suddenly get out of the water for a bit. We were seeing foot-sized fish jumping out of the water, and I told my wife that the fish sometimes jump out of the water when there are larger fish after them... sharks, barracuda, or any other larger predator.:D

We've long since stopped going deeper than ankle-deep in the ocean... too many shark attacks and we don't like being "mistaken for food." This can happen when you're imitating their favorite food... seals, by lying on a surfboard... or when walking in the water with a lot of swirling sand from the surf. There's a small shark down here called the cookie-cutter because it just takes a bite out of you about the size of an Oreo cookie.:D
The bites and or attacks are "rare" but I don't like to feed the wildlife "personally," as in parts of my anatomy! :eek:

I didn't need my AWD and didn't play in the sand. We left as the thunderstorms moved into the area and got enough rain on the way home to wash off the salt spray... nice outing.
Wynn:D

Bawanna
08-26-2010, 09:11 AM
Dang I like the looks of that van. Like to have a shiney new Chevy in my driveway someday. I'm just a GM guy driving an F word van thats too fancy with too many whistles for this Missour dirt farmer.

Bawanna
08-26-2010, 11:53 AM
Have to share a report on my usual evening commute home last night.
Pre history- It's been quite warm here in recent weeks and several high school age kids have been down at the river jumping off the bridge to cool off. It's a relatively high bridge that I would not jump off without some sort of very good reason. They mostly stand at the rail and contemplate.
I suspect they know I'm in law enforcement although with no powers in that area as they always act non chalant like nothings happening when they see me come by.
The last couple evenings they have been waving and making gestures to me as if to stop me for some reason. Even with them obviously being teens, there are 20 or so of them and I figure why take any chances, so I drive around them, smile and wave and head for home.
Last night as I approach the same bridge, all the teens form a line accross the bridge blocking both lanes. There is not alot of traffic but cars cross on a regular basis. Their act of course launches me right into condition RED with a capital "R". I actually stopped at the end of the bridge which is probably 200 feet accross to evaluate the situation. They are waving for me to approach, I'm like WTF? I cleared my vest so my Para was easily accessible, rolled down my passenger window several inches and made sure the doors were all locked. Since I drive with my hands I make sure everything is reachable, cell phone, gun, spare mags, PM45 on ankle. I'm not scared or terribly concerned but this whole deal is weird.
So I approach and they clearly are not going to let me pass without running over somebody, several are girls so my plan of escape included trying to avoid those as they probably were just hanging out with stupid guys and we don't want to short change the world of future angels.
So I stop and the ring leader approaches. They wanted me to pull to the edge of the bridge, let them climb on the roof of my van so they could jump off a little higher I guess. My response is you gotta be freakin kiddin me! I explained the potential hazards both to their health and to the roof of my van. They then noticed the full size 45 in my holster which of course I never touched or even made notice of. I then tried to get them to grasp the possible repercutions of stopping a motorist with an en mass group of questionable intelligence juveniles. I don't think they grasped the concept. Wanted to play show and tell with my as they called it "Piece". I declined both the show and tell and the roof of my van. Told them I'd try to send the UPS truck that's always in the area that time of day and they could jump off his roof, it's higher. Evilly hoping they would not jump far enough and land head first on the guard rail. I'm evil.
So, how was your commute?

bps3040
08-27-2010, 01:31 PM
Wow, strange and stupid. :)

bps3040
08-27-2010, 01:32 PM
:):):)

bps3040
08-27-2010, 01:42 PM
Police: Driver distracted by sex toy | freep.com | Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/article/20100826/NEWS07/100826029/1320/Police-Driver-distracted-by-sex-toy)


ELMWOOD PLACE, Ohio - A police officer who stopped a car because it had illegally tinted windows received a bit of a shock when he looked inside.




Officer Ross Gilbert said the driver, Colondra Hamilton, a 36-year-old Downtown resident, was sitting with her pants unzipped and a sex toy in her lap when he pulled her over Aug. 17.

He said Hamilton told him she was using the toy while watching a sex video on a laptop computer that a passenger in the front seat held up so she could see it

jlottmc
08-28-2010, 08:36 AM
Ok, there's dumb, and dumber. Now we just wait for the fun...