New CW 9

[naa10104]

Hello,

Have some concerns with my brand new CW 9 that I just brought home. Issue #1 - While cleaning the barrel I noticed some rough/dirty areas inside the barrel about half way down. I ran a nylon bristle brush and bore cleaner through, no change so I ran a copper brush through with cleaner and then ran clean patches thru. The rough area is there and looks like either poor machining or bad metal. is this normal ? The areas are in between the grooves on one side of the barrel in app. 3 areas. Can't get a photo of it.

Second, after a good cleaning and lubing the slide will only go into battery if I let it slam shut under spring tension. If I ride it shut or slow it at all ... it fails to go into battery stopping about an 1/8 to a 1/4 inch out. I know this might be a break in issue but wasn't sure ... the gun has not been fired yet. I am more concerned about the barrel issue ... it does not look clean and well grooved. Thanks

steve

[Bawanna]

Might be a nickel plating issue on the barrel, hard to tell without seeing it. Kind of flaky, like lifted paint or something different.

The not going into battery is semi normal. During firing the slide will never slow at all or do anything but full force. One reason they recommend loading the chamber with the slide release.

That should improve with just a few rounds fired. Watch for long bullet seats, this will sometimes cause the same issue.

Shouldn't be a problem once you get to shooting.

[naa10104]

Not flaky or lifting paint ... more like a rough/sanded area. Hard to see as it is in middle of barrel. It is in between the grooves ... if it does not effect accuracy should I not worry about it ? I guess I could fire the 200 break in rounds thru it and see if it smoothes out the rough areas. Your thoughts ? Thanks

steve

[DavidWJ]

Can't say I inspected mine that closely before firing it, but the barrel is Stainless Steel so I wonder if it may be poor machining or some tough residue from factory firing. There was a CW9 post a while back with pictures that showed rough machine marks on the inside of the slide that aren't on mine. CW9s may have quality control issues, but mine seems fine and shoots very good.

These things have stiff springs and require break-in. I found that using MoS2 (in turpentine) on the slide surfaces makes the action smoother when charging. It doesn't wear or burn off like oil either.

[naa10104]

Thanks, I will let you know what happens.

[Bills1873]

Most likely nickel plating. Shoot it some, with jacketed bullets, then check again. Should smooth out. Anxious for a range report!

[RolandD]

Not flaky or lifting paint ... more like a rough/sanded area. Hard to see as it is in middle of barrel. It is in between the grooves ... if it does not effect accuracy should I not worry about it ? I guess I could fire the 200 break in rounds thru it and see if it smoothes out the rough areas. Your thoughts ? Thanks

steve

Is it on the lands, or in the grooves? If it's in the grooves, I'd break it in to see if it even makes a difference. On the lands, it might be another story and someone more knowledgeable than me should address it.

[naa10104]

Hello,

Not to sound ignorant, but the lands are the raised portions of the rifling and the grooves are the relieved/cut out ares ... right ? The marks I am speaking of are in between three of the grooves at the top side of the barrel ... all in roughly the same area. Hard to tell how long they are I would guess 1/3 inch. Going to call Kahr this morning and see what they want before I do anything else. Maybe they will just replace the barrel ... who knows. Thanks

[Bobshouse]

Kahr will take care of it. Let us know how this turned out for you. I would send a pic (the best I could take) of the area with a description. I'm like you, when I spend my hard earned money on something, I want it the way it's supposed to be, nothing more, nothing less.

[marshal kane]

I would run a box of jacketed ammunition through it, clean it again and see if there is any difference in the bore. Check the target and see if it groups to your satisfaction. If you're an average shooter, like many of us are, have a friend who is a good shooter do the test target. I'm thinking that area of your bore is just stains left when the factory test fired it and with additional firing, it may clean up. Even if it doesn't and it shoots accurately, you may want to reconsider sending it back to Kahr at this time. You have five years on the warranty to bring this issue up with Kahr.

I never ride the slide when chambering as Kahr says to use the slide release. Tolerances are tight on a Kahr so you need to break the gun in to really get a good picture of how your gun is functioning. Best wishes on your gun turning out to be a keeper.

[naa10104]

Hello,

Kahr sent me a prepaid label and asked that I send the barrel and slide back to them. They say they are going to replace the barrel. Dropped it at FedEx today. Keep you all posted.

[naa10104]

Hello,

Been 11 days now ... still don't have my brand new gun back that I have not fired yet ! I called Kahr a few days ago and asked when it might be back. Was told 2-3 weeks. I let the guy know that they were just sending me a new barrel, he didn't seem to interested. When I asked if I would get and email notification of when it was shipping or a tracking number, he said "no". I said so my gun parts are just going to show up and sit on my front porch. He said "yes" Didn't seem very concerned with the whole transaction. Oh well !

[CJB]

Its the nickle plating in the bore smoothing out. No cause for alarm.

[RonW]

Just as a head's up, they do test fire the pistols at the factory to ensure proper functioning before shipping them out... Are you sure what you saw was NOT residue from the test firing?

[naa10104]

I thoroughly cleaned the barrel and whole gun for that matter in prep. for break in firing. Used two different barrel brushes, copper/nylon and bore cleaner as well as numerous patches. What ever is in the barrel won't come out ... it looks like bad milling or some damage to the barrel. Been two weeks now and still don't ahve my gun back. Emailed them today for an update.

[naa10104]

Hello,

CW9 slide and NEW barrel showed up yesterday. Barrel does look better, no imperfections in the barrel. However, in the chamber there are two small dots. Sort of look Hexagonal in shape. They are directly across from each other on opposite sides of the chamber. I did run a bore brush thru and they remain. If you blow up the attached photo I believe you can see one of them. Any opinions ? Hopefully, to the range tomorrow to break it in.

steve

[naa10104]

Hello,

Took the CW9 to the range today. It fired perfectly, 0 malfunctions in 200 rounds of quality, full ball rage ammo. Very happy with these results. Still curious about the marks in the chamber.

[nmkahrshooter]

If it works don't mess with it. Most of the times these things work themselves out

[yqtszhj]

If it works don't mess with it. Most of the times these things work themselves out

What he said. After 1000 rounds that plating will be smoked up anyway (at least mine is] unless you polish it. By the way the cw9 is one of the nicest kahrs i think. I had one with over 1000 rounds and it never failed even once. Like a fool I traded it for a cm9 which I still have and love. Ended up getting a ct9 too which ia awesome. By the way I can limp wrist intentionally all my kahr 9mm's and none of them ever malfunction. You have a good gun there.

[RonW]

with the exception of my mags dropping on me with my CW40 (even still it always went bang when I pulled the trigger) all of my kahr pistols have been 100% reliable with all sorts of ammo weight, types & brand.

[naa10104]

Thanks all for the input !