Need Help! Getting Ready to Order K9 Blem From Bud's

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I'm getting ready to order a K9 Blem from Bud's. The listing for the gun says "CA LEGAL". The model number is listed as "ZK9093N". I can't figure out what the "ZK" stands for. The 9093N means a regular K9 with night sights. Does anyone know if this means that it is the regular K9, and it is simply legal to be sold in CA, or is the gun somehow different mechanically (e.g. different trigger pull) than the regular K9?

If anyone knows and could answer quickly I would greatly appreciate it as I am getting ready to "pull the trigger" on this gun.

Thanks!!

[SlowBurn]

K9093N is for a regular K9 with night sights. The K is Kahr code for steel frame. Its the Z that's mysterious. Somebody asked the same question last year about a California legal blem model from Bud's and no one seemed to have the answer. Does it designate the blem or have to do with California? Maybe it has a mag disconnect or a loaded chamber indicator or both.
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?26274-Bud-s-K9-Blem-model-ZK9093

[CJB]

Maybe its a 2 not a Z?

[RolandD]

Just searched for 'blem' on Bud's website. Nearly all, but not every, blem starts with Z. Probably just a way Bud's designates factory blems.

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I'm getting ready to order a K9 Blem from Bud's. The listing for the gun says "CA LEGAL". The model number is listed as "ZK9093N". I can't figure out what the "ZK" stands for. The 9093N means a regular K9 with night sights. Does anyone know if this means that it is the regular K9, and it is simply legal to be sold in CA, or is the gun somehow different mechanically (e.g. different trigger pull) than the regular K9?

If anyone knows and could answer quickly I would greatly appreciate it as I am getting ready to "pull the trigger" on this gun.

Thanks!!

Thanks for the input everyone! All of the available blem K9's on Bud's are listed as "CA LEGAL", which suggests to me that they may not be that desirable, possibly due to having the LCI and magazine disconnect. For that reason, I think I'm going to hold off and wait until a regular K9 blem becomes available. Or I may just bite the bullet and but a new one if my impatience gets the best of me....

[Bobshouse]

I can live with the LCI, but the stupid magazine disconnect drives me up the wall. Actually on the Kahr P380, the LCI sticks up between the sights and throws off the sight picture. I have a crimson trace on it so I really don't use the sights that often, but still!!

[SlowBurn]

I can live with the LCI, but the stupid magazine disconnect drives me up the wall. Actually on the Kahr P380, the LCI sticks up between the sights and throws off the sight picture. I have a crimson trace on it so I really don't use the sights that often, but still!!

I wouldn't have either if there's a choice. More stuff to wear out or break.

[Alfonse]

Thanks for the input everyone! All of the available blem K9's on Bud's are listed as "CA LEGAL", which suggests to me that they may not be that desirable, possibly due to having the LCI and magazine disconnect. For that reason, I think I'm going to hold off and wait until a regular K9 blem becomes available. Or I may just bite the bullet and but a new one if my impatience gets the best of me....

I believe the K9 is on the list of California approved pistols, and no changes have been made to it, so it still is. I don't think any K9 has an external safety or LCI. They don't have a capacity above the limit in California. It is my understanding California requires a manufacturer to resubmit a pistol for approval (and include micro-stamping) if any changes are made to it. Kahr hasn't changed the K9 in a long time, so it remains on the list. I believe every K9 is CA legal.

[Bobshouse]

Alfonse is correct, if no changes have been made to a previously listed gun and the dealer pays the renewal fee, they're good to go. That's whey Ruger Mark II pistols were still available till 2 years ago. I still refuse to purchase the Mark III.

California did it again recently. No Glocks that are made in America can be sold in California. Got to love the American state of California!

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I believe the K9 is on the list of California approved pistols, and no changes have been made to it, so it still is. I don't think any K9 has an external safety or LCI. They don't have a capacity above the limit in California. It is my understanding California requires a manufacturer to resubmit a pistol for approval (and include micro-stamping) if any changes are made to it. Kahr hasn't changed the K9 in a long time, so it remains on the list. I believe every K9 is CA legal.

I am the OP. Based on the above info, I went ahead and placed my order with Bud's for a K9 Elite blem, no night sights. The price was $563.00. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. I will post photos and a report as soon as I get it next week.

[Alfonse]

I think you will love it. They are beautiful and one of my favorite pistols. The blem are usually really hard to find.

[schrobbie]

California resident here. Just received my K9 "blem" from Bud's. Neither myself or my gunsmith (who is also the FFL who receives my Bud's orders) could figure out why it would be classified as a "blem." No mark on the trigger guard, either (I was told there'd be a mark denoting it's "blem" status... none to be found!)

Note: this is the regular K9 (not elite), blem, without night sights, designated by Bud's as "KAHR K9 9MM 3.5 SS 8RD CA LEGAL BLEM ZK9093"
It does not have a Loaded Chamber Indicator and does not have a Magazine Disconnect Safety.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k177/trevorhollenback/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/trevorhollenback/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg.html)

OP: hope you enjoy the Elite 03 version! That polishing is nice. :)

[kenemoore]

I recently acquired a used K9 in good shape, you are going to love it. The extra weight makes the felt recoil almost nothing.

[Bobshouse]

California resident here. Just received my K9 "blem" from Bud's. Neither myself or my gunsmith (who is also the FFL who receives my Bud's orders) could figure out why it would be classified as a "blem." No mark on the trigger guard, either (I was told there'd be a mark denoting it's "blem" status... none to be found!)

Note: this is the regular K9 (not elite), blem, without night sights, designated by Bud's as "KAHR K9 9MM 3.5 SS 8RD CA LEGAL BLEM ZK9093"
It does not have a Loaded Chamber Indicator and does not have a Magazine Disconnect Safety.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k177/trevorhollenback/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/trevorhollenback/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg.html)

OP: hope you enjoy the Elite 03 version! That polishing is nice. :)

Sorry to inform you that your purchase has been found to be in error and is not permitted in our honorable state of California. Please forward the pictured contents above to me for approved disposal. Please do not attempt to activate the firearm in it's current configuration, as it is not safe to operate. This action is necessary for your own protection, you will thank us in the future, citizen.

[Bills1873]

Whoa there Bobshouse! I think I'm in charge of approved disposal of unsafe weapons! He MUST send it to me. LOL!

[schrobbie]

Sorry to inform you that your purchase has been found to be in error and is not permitted in our honorable state of California. Please forward the pictured contents above to me for approved disposal. Please do not attempt to activate the firearm in it's current configuration, as it is not safe to operate. This action is necessary for your own protection, you will thank us in the future, citizen.
Oh! My mistake your honor, please send me your address so I can overnight it to you! [emoji23]

[yqtszhj]

Thats s beauty.

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California resident here. Just received my K9 "blem" from Bud's. Neither myself or my gunsmith (who is also the FFL who receives my Bud's orders) could figure out why it would be classified as a "blem." No mark on the trigger guard, either (I was told there'd be a mark denoting it's "blem" status... none to be found!)

Note: this is the regular K9 (not elite), blem, without night sights, designated by Bud's as "KAHR K9 9MM 3.5 SS 8RD CA LEGAL BLEM ZK9093"
It does not have a Loaded Chamber Indicator and does not have a Magazine Disconnect Safety.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k177/trevorhollenback/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/trevorhollenback/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160520_232142839_HDR_zpsucai7pql.jpg.html)

OP: hope you enjoy the Elite 03 version! That polishing is nice. :)

I am the OP. Thanks for posting that. It looks like you got a really sweet deal. Your post gives me encouragement that I made a good choice ordering the K9 Elite Blem from Bud's. I will know in about 2 hours when I go pick it up from my FFL. I am hoping my outcome is as good as yours...

[schrobbie]

I am the OP. Thanks for posting that. It looks like you got a really sweet deal. Your post gives me encouragement that I made a good choice ordering the K9 Elite Blem from Bud's. I will know in about 2 hours when I go pick it up from my FFL. I am hoping my outcome is as good as yours...
I'm betting it will be. And heck, if you don't like it, refuse to accept it at yout FFL and it will be shipped back to Bud's. As far as I know, they cover the return costs if you haven't DROS'd it yet. That's the key: don't sign anything if you're unhappy with the condition of the gun!

First K9 I shot was from a guy in the lane next to me at my local range. He had just gotten the same one you're getting (Elite 03 Blem from Bud's, without night sights) and was testing it out. Neither of us could find even the slightest cosmetic defect, and the thing shot beautifully.

He had only used 1911's prior to that K9 and couldn't get the thing to group. He had me try it and it grouped just fine. At that point the only Kahr I'd ever shot a lot was my PM9, so after emptying one magazine of rounds through the K9 I was immediately sold. Can't even compare it with the PM9, as they are tremendously different firearms, but suffice it to say that the K9 is an absolute joy to shoot in comparison with the PM9.

Nothin wrong with the PM9 (LOVE mine), but there's just A LOT right with the K9!

Good luck! I'll have my fingers crossed for ya.

[Bobshouse]

Oh! My mistake your honor, please send me your address so I can overnight it to you! [emoji23]

PM sent!!

Seriously though, if you are ever in the Lompoc/Vandenberg area let me know and I'll get you an invite to shoot at our club. A member has created a unofficial website for us at www.vafbgunclub.com (http://www.vafbgunclub.com).

This invitation is open to all. The manager is a personal friend of mine and is an all around great guy, great shooter, fantastic conversationalist and a decent speller!

[schrobbie]

PM sent!!

Seriously though, if you are ever in the Lompoc/Vandenberg area let me know and I'll get you an invite to shoot at our club. A member has created a unofficial website for us at www.vafbgunclub.com (http://www.vafbgunclub.com).

This invitation is open to all. The manager is a personal friend of mine and is an all around great guy, great shooter, fantastic conversationalist and a decent speller!
I would love that. Might have to take a little drive up your way just to check out the club! Thanks so much for the open invitation.

[SlowBurn]

California resident here. Just received my K9 "blem" from Bud's. Neither myself or my gunsmith (who is also the FFL who receives my Bud's orders) could figure out why it would be classified as a "blem." No mark on the trigger guard, either (I was told there'd be a mark denoting it's "blem" status... none to be found!)

Note: this is the regular K9 (not elite), blem, without night sights, designated by Bud's as "KAHR K9 9MM 3.5 SS 8RD CA LEGAL BLEM ZK9093"
It does not have a Loaded Chamber Indicator and does not have a Magazine Disconnect Safety.
Damn thing is beautiful.

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I am the OP. So I picked up my K9 Elite blem from my FFL this afternoon, and I am pleased to report that my experience is just like schrobbie's. Both my FFL and I went over the gun and could find no blemish at all, nor is there a "B" stamped anywhere on the gun. So basically I have a new K9 Elite for $563.00 + $20.00 FFL fee, so I am all-in for $583.00. I'm a happy camper so far. Will be taking it to the range tomorrow morning, and I will post a range report after I get home. Also the gun is screaming out for the Kahr checkered wood grips, so I will be ordering those next week.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k94_zpsnqqeyxea.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k91_zpsbqgipaqx.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k93_zpsolrjukqu.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k92_zps3vrgc3ly.jpg

[schrobbie]

I am the OP. So I picked up my K9 Elite blem from my FFL this afternoon, and I am pleased to report that my experience is just like schrobbie's. Both my FFL and I went over the gun and could find no blemish at all, nor is there a "B" stamped anywhere on the gun. So basically I have a new K9 Elite for $563.00 + $20.00 FFL fee, so I am all-in for $583.00. I'm a happy camper so far. Will be taking it to the range tomorrow morning, and I will post a range report after I get home. Also the gun is screaming out for the Kahr checkered wood grips, so I will be ordering those next week.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k94_zpsnqqeyxea.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k91_zpsbqgipaqx.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k93_zpsolrjukqu.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/k92_zps3vrgc3ly.jpg
Awesome! Congrats!