Pm9 Favorite Type Ammo?

[PBJ]

Looks like a new PM9 will accompany the PM45 soon and wondered what ammo tends to be your favorite?

[OvalNut]

For range work, Speer Lawman TMJ 124gr.

For self defense, Federal HST 124gr.


Tim

[dustnchips]

From what I've read on this forum almost any quality ammo will run fine. The trouble seems to be Fiocchi and some of the other cheaper stuff. I just got a PM9 and have only run Federal 115 gr FMJ RN through it at the range. No problems. Just don't buy 500 or 1000 rounds until you have tested it in the gun.

[b4uqzme]

I have run a boatload of Blazer brass, Speer Lawman and American Eagle. No issues with any. Golden Saber 124g for carry.

[Alfonse]

Steel case is not recommended.

[kenemoore]

Freedom munitions 115 & 124 gr reman, Golden Saber 124, HST 147, never had an issue with any brand so far.

[mser]

My PM9 (and K9) eats various grains of PMC, Sellier & Bellot, Magtech, Blazer Brass and Aguila range ammunition without a hiccup. My choice for carry ammunition is GDHP 124 grain +P, which functions flawlessly.

[CharlieR]

My PM9 eats just about anything.....but it's normally fed Remington UMC 115, Blazer Brass 115 & 124, Aguila 124, and Federal 115. Carry: HST 124 & 147 (both standard and +P)

[CPTKILLER]

Federal HST in my Kahr MK9 and my Springfield EMP 9.

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger/Federal?ikw=HST&ca=brass

Any of these will work well!

[RolandD]

Freedom munitions 115 & 124 gr reman, Golden Saber 124, HST 147, never had an issue with any brand so far.
Keep in mind, Freedom Munitions and Freedom Ammunition are different companies. Never had a problem with Freedom Munitions products. I have had a problem with Freedom Ammunition, and will never buy it.

[kwh]

At the range, what ever ammo on sale. Carry is Federal HST. No problems with any ammo on my CM9.

[PBJ]

Much thanks for all the replies and suggestions, now to try and find some good deals out there!

OT: Interesting story, found a PM9 local and talked with the gentleman and he wanted to take my picture and have me go make copies of DL, CCW, CCW papers and sign off from course teacher, Address etc. I honor his opinion and concerns yet felt like he was asking for too much especially after talking with him for an extended time on phone as he also spent many years in same city and we knew many mutual things. Bowed out and hung up phone wishing him well and returned call from a friend that I just missed and plan on renewing CCW with Friday and told him story and he was like no prob, I got your back. I happen to have a brand new in box PM9 in the safe at home you can have for $200.00 =)
So interesting how when we ask we receive and with him a simple ATF bill of sale copy is fine.

PM9 arrives Friday and excited to use it same day and likely take shooting part of test with it. If it's anything like my PM45 I will be very satisfied.

Have a feeling LCP will not be with me as often on these 100F plus days.

[1911master]

Ammo, I have been shooting Federal BP9 at range and for carry I am hooked on the new Colt solid brass 115 grain HP. It's only loaded to 1150fps. Easy to shoot well fast.

[delleetodd]

I like high velocity XTPs. Underwood has some nice ones. The shape of the XTP feeds nicely as a bonus.

[berettabone]

I use the Fed HST 147 gr. in cold months, Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. in warm months............................................ ............

[PBJ]

Thanks, curious why you change rounds for the season? Perhaps thicker clothing threat may be wearing?


I use the Fed HST 147 gr. in cold months, Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. in warm months............................................ ............

[SmokyT]

I carry either CorBon 115gr DPX +P or Federal 124gr HST in my PM9. But CorBon seems to feed a bit more smoothly and kick less, even though it is +P. Perhaps because of the lighter bullet weight?

[rowdy115]

Range ammo is 115 grain Blazer Brass,

Carry ammo is 147 grain Federal HST (Std Pressure)

My CM9 eats these like candy. Never had a stoppage on these choices in my gun. Probably 500 rounds of the Blazer so far and about 50 of the 147 grain HST's.

[berettabone]

Thanks, curious why you change rounds for the season? Perhaps thicker clothing threat may be wearing?
Correct....................................

[kcarr65]

I only use federal hst for defense in my cm9. It runs flawless and here is probably the best place to buy it. Fast shipping and cheapest priced. https://www.gtdist.com/products/guns-firearms.html?caliber=9+mm&cat=1031&manufacturer=Federal+Cartridge

[Papersniper]

Range ammo is 115 grain Blazer Brass,

Carry ammo is 147 grain Federal HST (Std Pressure)

My CM9 eats these like candy. Never had a stoppage on these choices in my gun. Probably 500 rounds of the Blazer so far and about 50 of the 147 grain HST's.

I've found that the heavier bullet will print a bit higher than the lighter ones, like maybe 3 inches. This is at about a 7-10 yard range with my 9mm pistols. Have you found that to be the case with your pistol? Is it a P/CM9?

For that reason I tend to practice and carry the same bullet weight. But it might be my technique shooting.....<g>

[badge4436]

Winchester 147 Ranger T for my PM9, catalog RA9T.

[Papersniper]

I've found that the heavier bullet will print a bit higher than the lighter ones, like maybe 3 inches. This is at about a 7-10 yard range with my 9mm pistols. Have you found that to be the case with your pistol? Is it a P/CM9?

For that reason I tend to practice and carry the same bullet weight. But it might be my technique shooting.....<g>

I don't believe this was directed toward me, but I will answer anysay: I prefer to practice and carry the same weight bullet (147 gr), but I have a lot more practice ammo of various bullet weights, so I generally just gave a box or two and shoot it at the range. However, I have enough 147 gr practice ammo to get the experience shooting it and comparing it to my carry ammo, which is 90% 147 gr. I still occasionally carry 124 gr, and will shoot it up during some practice session eventually.

Yes, the 147 gr bullets will print higher than the lighter ones assuming its velocity is lower than the lighter bullets.
My goal is to eventually limit my ammo closet to only 147 gr 9mm ammo; but right now I have at least 1000 rounds of 9mm FMJ that's 115 and 124 gr.

[Papersniper]

From what I've read on this forum almost any quality ammo will run fine. The trouble seems to be Fiocchi and some of the other cheaper stuff. I just got a PM9 and have only run Federal 115 gr FMJ RN through it at the range. No problems. Just don't buy 500 or 1000 rounds until you have tested it in the gun.

I'm taking delivery of a new CM9 this week. I plan to do the 200 round "wear in" using Speer Lawman and Blazer Brass, both are 115 grain. I have quite a bit of that on hand.

I also will begin testing some SD ammo: among those is Fiocchi 124 JHP ammo. I shot several 9mm pistols, and have a pretty wide assortment of practice and carry ammo. My favorite carry is Speer Gold Dot 147 gr ammo; but I'll test others in the Kahr (and other guns I acquire) just to see how it does. I will TRY to remember to post my results here!;)

[Bills1873]

Ammo results are much appreciated! Please do!

[Papersniper]

Ammo results are much appreciated! Please do!

I hope to get the pistol this week and shoot ASAP. I'll report back here when I do.......hopefully my fuzzy brain will remember! :)

BTW, can anyone verify the PM9 and CM9 are the same size? I don't see a lot of holsters or other accessories for the CM9.

[sa3886]

I've had my PM9 for two weeks now, put over 600 rounds through it without any problems whatsoever....It's a truly amazing gun, I love it..

Shot mostly Winchester white box 115 gr FMJ, Federal 115 gr FMJ as well as Hornady 115 gr Critical Defense, Speer Gold Dot 115 gr and 124 gr +P.
Not a misfeed or any hiccups the whole way.
As far as my carry ammo, it's the Gold Dot 124 gr +P's all the way. I'm a retired NYPD Sergeant and we carried the Gold Dot 124 +P's as our duty ammo and the performance is off the charts.
I understand the Federal HST 124 gr is excellent as well, but I'm sticking with the Speer.............:amflag:

[Papersniper]

"...I've had my PM9 for two weeks now...

How is the POI compared to the POA with a center hold? My CM9 shoot maybe 5-6 inches low at 7 yards wih 115 and 124 gr rounds. Due to that I have been carrying the heavier 147 gr bullets in my CM9, right now Fiocchi 147 gr XTP "Extrema". I am happy with its function. It seems to get good ratings by those who test terminal ballistics. I also like the Speer Gold Dot rounds, they are my favorite carry ammo in nearly all cases. But it's good to have an alternate; and Fiocchi works for most of my 9mm handguns.

[jg rider]

I believe sometimes pictures are better then words
This is a partial rewrite of a post I did some time back
Wife and I have 4 Kahrs. 2 K9s and 2 PM9s
A long time back I did a bunch of tests with different brand / weights e.g. Goldem Saber, Gold Dots, and some that I don't remember
plus

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/9mmAmmo.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/9mmAmmo.jpg.html)

To this day there isn't any thing that makes us change our minds for our selections.

POA/POI are the as good as we could expect with fixed sights, these hits are on a 6" steel plate

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/008JosK9Kahrfiberopticsights10yds.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Pistols/008JosK9Kahrfiberopticsights10yds.jpg.html)



In the K9s we carry Fed. 147 HST. In the PM9s we carry Win. 147 Ranger RA9T, hard to find now. The Win.stuff seems to have a softer felt recoil then the 147 HST. And the 147 gr. stuff all all seemed to have a soft push felt recoil compared to a sharper snap of 124 gr. stuff.

Also all these tests were done with standard pressure stuff

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST628labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST628labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST635labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST635labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Fed147HST.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T645labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T645labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T664labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T664labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/K9%20Tests/K9-Win147RA9T.jpg.html)

[jg rider]

These are out of PM9s

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/009JosKahrPM9fiberopticsights10yds.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Pistols/009JosKahrPM9fiberopticsights10yds.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HST624labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HST624labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HST599labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HST599labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HSTlabeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Fed147HSTlabeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9T676labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9T676labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9T698labeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9T698labeled.jpg.html)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9Tlabeled.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Kahr%20Ammo%20Tests/PM9%20Tests/PM9-Win147RA9Tlabeled.jpg.html)

[Bawanna]

JG, you've been quiet for quite awhile. Hope all is well down down south of me.

Thanks for stopping by. Do it more often.

[Nytcrawler93]

S&B 124 for range, WWB 115 for range, 147 HST for real work.


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[jg rider]

Hi Boss,
It has been a while ! Haven't played with the Kahrs very often so there's not much I can offer there. But I still stop by and lurk. Found a new interest called Marlin lever guns. I had a 1970 .44 mag. a 1985 .22 39A and now a 1995 .357. Been messing around with loading cast boolits in fire formed pistol brass :der: (don't laugh)

And with this new background check on sales we now have to endure here in the N.W. I'm thinking about surrendering most of my toys. Fortunately I have a neighbor that's a Washington County Sheriff who's willing to be nice enough to surrender my stuff for me :der:. Do I have to do a background check on him before I turn them over ?

[jcannady]

S&B 124 for range, WWB 115 for range, 147 HST for real work.


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Exactly what I use.

Jim

[Papersniper]

Exactly what I use.

Jim

Don't you find the POI is different between those three bullet weights? I stopped buying the less expensive 115 gr practice ammo since my pistols and I prefer 147 gr for carry, and the different in POI was enough to make me uncomfortable.

[jcannady]

Don't you find the POI is different between those three bullet weights? I stopped buying the less expensive 115 gr practice ammo since my pistols and I prefer 147 gr for carry, and the different in POI was enough to make me uncomfortable.

I don't shoot my 9 beyond 15 yards and the difference in POI between the 147 gr HST and the range ammo is less than two inches for me at that distance. I generally use the range ammo to practice mechanics for most of a session and then I shoot 50 rounds of HST at the end to refine my technique and to focus on accuracy. That way my last range time gives me muscle memory for the real stuff.

All that said, if WWB came in 147 gr I would definitely prefer that.

Jim


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[berettabone]

It does seem that in my MK, the heavier bullet is more accurate.

[SteveOak]

I went through my storage unit yesterday and found four 25 round boxes of 124 gr Golden Saber (+P) ammo. Nice! So that is what I will be using for carry.

For those of you that use 124 gr Golden Saber (+P) ammo for carry, what ammo do you use for fam fire/range practice?

[Papersniper]

I don't shoot my 9 beyond 15 yards and the difference in POI between the 147 gr HST and the range ammo is less than two inches for me at that distance..........

All that said, if WWB came in 147 gr I would definitely prefer that.

Jim



I recently bought a case of Lawman 147 gr TMJ to share with a friend. I don't recall the price, but it was decent. However, if a case is too much, WWB is always a good alternative.