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greg_r
07-31-2016, 05:36 AM
The gun store had S&W day yesterday. Rep was there and they had a drawing for a 9 Shield. I WON! Well, no I didn't, but a person can dream can't they!

Anyway I got to the handle the 45 Shield. I will say I was impressed. A couple of obvious changes from the 9 and 40 Shield, it had front slide serrations and the grip was fully stippled. Not much different in size to its 9 and 40 brethren. It sits well in the hand and has a low bore axis.

I once owned a 40 Shield. Like the the gun, but I was not a fan of the 40 S&W. I honestly bought it during the late ammunition drought when 40 was the only thing that was abundantly available. Once the drought was over I decided to trade it for the 9 Shield. That's when I met Kahr. I was sold on the Kahr mostly because it was chambered in 45acp. Had the 45 Shield been available then, I would have purchased it and never looked back.

Just some personal observations/opinions comparing the CW45 and the 45 Shield. I he a Kahr just feels better in the hand to me, it's just enough wider in the grip area to better fill my hand, but the Shield is not bad. 2 finger grip on the Shield with the flush magazine, I can get all my fingers on the grip of the Kahr, another plus for the Kahr. I can get all 3 fingers on the Smith using the extended magazine, but I really don't like using the magazine as part of the grip. The Kahr is 6+ 1, the Smith is 6+1 with the flush fit, 7 + 1 with the extended. The Smith has a better trigger with a better reset, but at the expense of a cocked striker, the Kahr trigger is good, just not as good as the Smith, but the striker is at rest, another plus for me. The Smith gets the clear win in the disassembly and ease of reassembly department, making cleaning easier. I still have to use a tool (normally a car key since I always have one on me) to push out the catch on the Kahr, plus I have to line up the notches and fight with the recoil spring to put it back together. The Smith you simply lock the slide back and twist a lever. The looks department is another where the Smith has it all over the Kahr, but this is purely personal. I just have never liked silver guns, preferring a good bluing job or just black. Silver to me just has an unfinished look to it. Again, purely personal.

Will I run out and trade my CW45 for a S&W Shield? No, I'm keeping the Kahr. Which one would I recommend a friend to purchase? Either, they are both 5 star rated as far as I'm concerned. I think the biggest difference is do you want a safety or not, the Smith gives you a choice, the Kahr does not. Nor does the Kahr need one, the uncocked striker and DAO trigger is inherently safe, I personally do not like a safety on a gun selected for Social work. But I'm not fond of the action being cooked and not having one either.

JohnR
07-31-2016, 08:13 AM
I like my 9mm Shield, it's solidly built and wonderfully engineered, as S&W products tend to be. I don't like the trigger, the way it overtravels and seems to jerk the gun sideways. I like my PM45 very much, too. The grip fits my hand just right, it shoots nicely for a small .45, and is well designed. As much as I like .45ACP I don't plan to buy a Shield .45.

berettabone
07-31-2016, 09:20 AM
I like the Kahr, I like the Shield, and I like .40 cal......................handled a Shield, I like my M&Pc much better. I have no problem with either trigger, all though I think I got lucky, and got a good M&P trigger out of the box. They both feel good in hand...................cleaning is definitely easier with the SW. I prefer the Kahr sights over the Shield's. They are both nice firearms indeed. I haven't figured out which trigger I like better, but am leaning towards the SW.

nmkahrshooter
07-31-2016, 05:01 PM
Haven't seen one yet but do plan to purchase one when I get my hand on it. Had a 9mm and loved it-should have kept it! Don't get me wrong like my Kahr but love S&W.

greg_r
07-31-2016, 05:12 PM
Haven't seen one yet but do plan to purchase one when I get my hand on it. Had a 9mm and loved it-should have kept it! Don't get me wrong like my Kahr but love S&W.
I was very fond of my Shield, just not the 40 S&W. On a side note, if I liked the 40, I probably would have not found Kahr!

kwh
07-31-2016, 06:26 PM
I have a Shield 40 S&W and a Kahr CW45. The Kahr brings a little smile to my face every time I pick it up. I like the trigger, the sights, and the way it fits my hand. I am used to cleaning it ,so no problems in takedown. It is carried IWB.
I got the Shield to carry in deep concealment, most often in a 12:00 pouch carry. I wanted a safety. Due to its small size, no problems inadvertently pushing it on while shooting. Trigger is fine. Recoil and muzzle flip straight back just like the Kahr. If you want to move the sights or replace them ,forget it. Must use a smith or professional sight pusher. I like them both,just the Kahr a little better.
My every day carry is a CM9 pocket carry.

zaitcev
08-01-2016, 09:44 AM
I prefer the trigger on my P45, and it's fantastically accurate, but I'm sick of the Kahr's unreliability. I bought 2 new factory magazines, and one works, while other does not. There does not appear to be any difference between the two. Even with the good magazines there are random days when the gun jams all the time. Works the next day, so I cannot send it to the factory -- they'll never find anything wrong with it.

nmkahrshooter
08-05-2016, 06:45 PM
They came into the store yesterday and I put one on layaway today. Seems like a nice pistol. Should have it out by the end of the month.

zaitcev
08-21-2016, 12:09 AM
I handled .45 Shield in a LGS today, and come away somewhat disappointed. The grip feels very much like Springfield XD-S, and not like P45/CW45. On the upside, Shield does not have the aggressive undercut of XD-S, so it should not hurt my knuckle. But it's not going to be as comfortable as Kahr. I was able to compare P45 and Shield side-by-side, and Shield is somewhat more compact, even with 1911 magazine in the Kahr. And with the Kahr's awful plastic bottoms it's no contest.

I came to like everything about Kahr, except the magazines and the overall unreliability. My P45 is untrustworthy. So I was looking forward to the new Shield as an exact replacement. But it never works out like that. At this point I'm actually thinking about picking up a new-production CW45.

kwh
08-21-2016, 02:20 PM
Maybe with some more info, it is likely people here could help with getting your P45 reliable. Without knowing anything else, I would invest in the Lakeland followers, they should provide increased reliability.
I prefer the trigger on my P45, and it's fantastically accurate, but I'm sick of the Kahr's unreliability. I bought 2 new factory magazines, and one works, while other does not. There does not appear to be any difference between the two. Even with the good magazines there are random days when the gun jams all the time. Works the next day, so I cannot send it to the factory -- they'll never find anything wrong with it.