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JohnR
08-10-2016, 03:16 PM
I got the CM9 as a pocket-size deep concealment pistol, not expecting to be able to shoot it well. Since getting a Shield and a Bersa BP9cc I carried each of those and put I think 400 rounds through the shield and 1300 rounds through the Bersa. Both are good guns but each have something about them that's not quite ideal to me. Today I shot all three, at least 40 rounds each. For some reason I used to shoot the Bersa super accurately, but now I'm all over the target. The Shield does really well for me, tight enough groups, excellent sights, the trigger is heavy but breaks clean and I can't complain, but the little bitty Kahr simply out-shot them both. Maybe it's all the revolver shooting I've been doing, I don't know.

But the tiny frame is hard for me to get used to and I'd like to get all my fingers on it. A magazine extension doesn't cut it. So I think a CW9 is in my future.

The numbers on the target are the distance in yards of each hole. Nothing to brag about, but it was tighter and closer to the center than the other two, and that's what counts.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z90/johnr64/2016-08-10%2016.07.17_zpsd4dfpa6o.jpg

wyntrout
08-10-2016, 05:30 PM
I sold my PM9 because I prefer the P9. I like the P-sized Kahrs and have the P380 for max concealment and pocketability for disrobing at the doctors' offices.

The Glock 43 is about the same dimensions as the P9 and after getting my wife one, I'm thinking seriously of getting one of those for myself. The Glocks are reliable... something I can't always say about my Kahrs. There are more options in parts and accessories and magazines are cheaper and plentiful... with cheap upgrades in capacity... something not available for Kahrs.

I still would like to have a black P45.

Wynn :)

yqtszhj
08-10-2016, 06:04 PM
If you like the kahr trigger (and I do) you cant beat the cw9. I bought the ct9 about a year ago and it is awesome. Never fails even if I try to limp wrist.

Go get one.

kwh
08-10-2016, 06:08 PM
I have a CM9 for pocket carry and a CW9 for belt carry. I shoot them both equally well. I have small hands.

Amacro
08-10-2016, 06:55 PM
I agree with the very small size of the CM9 I picked mine up last week shot the mandatory 200 rounds and a magazine of self defense ammo and I'm in love with this little gem. I'm new to the blog and just thought I'd share that if I had any idea that this would be so awesome I would have bought the PM9. I'm new to Kahr but not to guns and look forward discovering some of the other options
Al

CJB
08-10-2016, 07:58 PM
Aw hell...... Nice shootin' Tex!

jjanton305
08-11-2016, 07:01 AM
My new CW9 is my edc but I also just have fun shooting it. Got her last month and not one problem through the 200 rd break in period! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160811/64013e9c9fa22759b4ab070d75c0879a.jpg


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JohnR
08-11-2016, 08:51 AM
Well, before I run out and drop three and a half benjamins on a CW, I'm going to give the Apex sear a chance in my Shield.

berettabone
08-11-2016, 10:25 AM
I own an M&P compact, and I think the trigger is just fine, just like the trigger on my MK is fine................................your worried about dropping benjamins on a CW, want to replace the trigger on the Shield........all this and you own a Bersa????????

JohnR
08-11-2016, 10:40 AM
The M&P sear is $49. I don't plan to replace the trigger. The Bersa's trigger is very light and has a very short reset, I suspect the Apex keeps it heavier than the Bersa's.

dustnchips
08-11-2016, 11:10 AM
The truth is all of the reasoning above is pure BS. We keep buying and shooting different guns because we love them. Own up and admit your addiction.

JohnR
08-11-2016, 11:31 AM
The truth is all of the reasoning above is pure BS. We keep buying and shooting different guns because we love them. Own up and admit your addiction.
I cannot deny that.

JohnR
08-12-2016, 10:52 AM
Yeah, I dunno what I was thinking. The sear may make the Shield a great shooter, but I couldn't get the CW9 outta my head so I ordered one.

JohnR
08-14-2016, 03:28 PM
I've got the Apex sear block in my Shield now and it does make a night and day difference in the trigger pull weight. My new CW9 should be delivered to my FFL tomorrow. It's going to be a fun range week!

Bills1873
08-14-2016, 09:07 PM
See? Pure joy!

JohnR
08-15-2016, 08:24 AM
The bad news is, the original shear block leaped off my desk as I was pounding the roll pin back into my Shield. That dang pin is a bugger to get in and out. The block is a tiny black piece of metal and it's probably cowering in a corner next to the Ruger GP100 hammer spring retention clip that leaped free last year some time.

livefreeordie1
08-15-2016, 03:40 PM
I hate, hate, hate, the plastic base plate. It's like putting old rusted, painted rims on your new truck, it just ain't right. Fix it Kahr.

tkarl
09-06-2016, 04:59 AM
Just wondered from your post, if you'd thought about grip tape of some sort -- if you think you are having problems holding the gun.

JohnR
09-06-2016, 03:46 PM
I do have problems with the factory grips, they cause pain to my lily white and tender hands.

Today I put 100 rounds of Monarch JHP ammo through it, with two failures to feed. Nothing a tap/rack/roll didn't fix.

yqtszhj
09-06-2016, 04:18 PM
I could have predicted all of this. John, you're just like me:
1. Have nice gun
2. Want new gun
3. Figure I'll save money and improve what I have.
4. Improve what I have
5. Order case of ammo to test improvements
6. Shoot part of case and improvements are good
7. Still thinking about new gun
8. Buy new gun
9. Buy another case of ammo to break in new gun
10. Go back to step 1 and repeat

... and there is absolutely nothing wrong with steps 1 thru 10.

JohnR
09-06-2016, 07:41 PM
Yeah, that pretty well sums it up.

Ronni3_J
09-07-2016, 01:20 AM
I hate, hate, hate, the plastic base plate. It's like putting old rusted, painted rims on your new truck, it just ain't right. Fix it Kahr.

I ended up buying the metal base plates because I too hate them

tkarl
09-21-2016, 02:36 AM
I decided to get both! However, they are in transit, not in my hands yet. Right now, I have the CW380. I thought the CM9 would do for pocket carry like the 380 and the CW9 would do best for jacket-pocket-carry in colder months. Thoughts for a new owner? Do you guys disassemble the slide to clean it before first use? Kahr did recommend this.

JohnR
09-21-2016, 09:24 AM
There's a whole thread on Proper Prep of a New Kahr, somewhere on this forum.

Bawanna
09-21-2016, 10:03 AM
I decided to get both! However, they are in transit, not in my hands yet. Right now, I have the CW380. I thought the CM9 would do for pocket carry like the 380 and the CW9 would do best for jacket-pocket-carry in colder months. Thoughts for a new owner? Do you guys disassemble the slide to clean it before first use? Kahr did recommend this.

It's not a bad idea to dismantle the slide for a thorough cleaning. This makes sure the striker channel is clean and free of any possible junk left over from machining. It also gets you familiar with how the thing works etc.
Not mandatory, a good exterior cleaning and lube should get you going. I run them a little extra oily at first.

Use good powerful ammo, save any powder puff light recoil stuff for later after everything is working smooth.

Here's a good thread on taking the slide apart if you go that route. http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?197-How-To-quot-Detail-Strip-quot-the-Kahr-s-Upper!

The Ripley Retractor (bent coat hanger) is a real help. Kind of eliminates the need for a third hand.
Saves a lot of time looking around for the springs that take a trip to space and return we know not where too.

Might even use a large plastic bag the first time so you know what to expect.

Slvrbak
09-21-2016, 05:40 PM
I have the kahr bug as well. Recently picked up the cm9

Wow great little gun. Sure wish they would think about adouble stack 9. Then again they wouldn't be as slim. I went to store and handled the glock 43. Nice but a little too tall and it couldn't compete to the cm9 weight and trigger.

I have thought about picking up a glock 27 or 23 as I like the round capacity. Again the weight and thickness are a consideration. I currently have a glock 22 with a lone wolf conversion barrel and guide rod with spring. You have never shot such a soft shooting 9mm.

I shot a 249 out of 250 for My ccw.

Anyway, the kahr bug has bit me. I am currenly holding back. I have far too many pistols and revolvers as it is.

bugs
09-22-2016, 01:38 PM
I tried stair tread tape from the hardware store (like skateboard tape) on the grip and on left side of frame as a memory patch for my thumb with good results; then one day on a wild hair tried a Houge slip on w/palm swell. what a difference that made for me! slipped it over the tape and have best of both worlds!

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

yqtszhj
09-23-2016, 11:42 AM
I decided to get both! However, they are in transit, not in my hands yet. Right now, I have the CW380. I thought the CM9 would do for pocket carry like the 380 and the CW9 would do best for jacket-pocket-carry in colder months. Thoughts for a new owner? Do you guys disassemble the slide to clean it before first use? Kahr did recommend this.

One comment, you did good.

Slvrbak
10-09-2016, 08:18 AM
I tried stair tread tape from the hardware store (like skateboard tape) on the grip and on left side of frame as a memory patch for my thumb with good results; then one day on a wild hair tried a Houge slip on w/palm swell. what a difference that made for me! slipped it over the tape and have best of both worlds!

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

In my humble opinion the hogue slip on defeats the slim grip advantage. Rubberized talon grips

bugs
10-10-2016, 12:38 PM
that is true about the slim grip advantage; although even w/Hogue, my CM grip is leaner then a G26,doesn't print,and w/good grasp IWB/OWB, or in my pocket if needed. for me the slip on works well.

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

Bawanna
10-10-2016, 01:23 PM
I've held some with the stick on grips and they felt good.

I am a firm believer in that what ever is applied by sticking can become unstuck and usually does given enough time.

I preferred the slip on (my favorite was the Qwik grip) until I got brave with my wood burning pen and redid the stippling on my frame. I like it 100 times better than either of the other two fixes.

Nothing to come loose, nothing to shift around (although my slip on grips stayed in place well).

Just my nickels worth, hardly worth the price of admission.