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Harrylee
09-20-2016, 07:45 PM
Out of curiosity and it makes me wonder, which would you prefer. To carry a extra mag or a BUG gun or just what you have in your carry gun or both? It’s hard to say not like we are ready to battle on the streets but one never knows

Barth
09-20-2016, 07:54 PM
Always carry at least one gun and two extra mags.
Ruger LC9s Pro and two mags is easy peasy :D
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/20160920_183406_zpsqzpdg4xu.jpg

jeepster09
09-20-2016, 07:56 PM
Normally extra mag.

t4terrific
09-20-2016, 08:01 PM
Never spend a single moment without 2 guns, and 2 mags for each, within reach.

Not really, but that would be ideal.

OvalNut
09-20-2016, 08:47 PM
My normal carry, depending on the weather which dictates what I'm wearing, is either a PM9 with extended mag 7+1 on me or a Beretta PX4 9mm Compact 15+1 on me, and I keep an additional mag of both in my car safe.


Tim

Slugnutty
09-20-2016, 08:50 PM
Revolvers I keep 2 speed strips in the front left pocket and a speed loader - or 2 speed strips on me and the wife carry's 2 speed loaders.
Semi Flush fit mag and two extended mags left belt

Bawanna
09-20-2016, 11:41 PM
Generally I wear by Cbob Commander on my right side, with two magazines and my micro bowie knife on the left. The PM45 rides on my ankle and it also runs on the Commander Wilson mags so I'm pretty well set.

I just got home from my daughters, my son in laws birthday. She wondered if I was ok, since it "appeared" I was running nekkid.

Had to show them that all was ok, pulled the shirt up and the pant leg.

I actually enjoy the feel of that commander snuggling up to my side. Been using the PJ IWB. Never really been an IWB guy but with a shirt it works well, no danger of the barrel end poking out for the world to view, not that I really care.

kenemoore
09-21-2016, 04:17 AM
Both!
Spare mags, and a BUG.

CPTKILLER
09-21-2016, 09:19 AM
I always carry, a 357 Magnum or 9mm with reloads. It makes sense now.

berettabone
09-21-2016, 10:07 AM
Neither...........................if you can't get the job done with what you carry, you might as well bend over and kiss your behind good bye.

kenemoore
09-21-2016, 11:24 AM
I do a lot of work in the Safety Shut down systems for boilers and chemical reactors. NOTHING is 100% reliable 100% of the time. I throwing numbers out here, but lets say your pistol works 999 times out of 1000 times you draw it (which is extremely reliable), what are you going to do that 1 time it fails?

What if the bad guy comes up behind you and grabs your strong side arm, what are you going to do?

I admit I never really thought about it until I took a couple of classes.

Now I carry a BUG on my weak side, and practice firing one handed, weak and strong side.

berettabone
09-21-2016, 01:23 PM
If a person is honest with themselves, carrying extra mags and an extra firearm may be comforting, but in most situations, you will never get to use any extras. Keeping extra mags in your car safe won't do you any good. Keeping extra mags is fine, if you have a chance to reload. Having an extra firearm is good, if you get to it. It's mostly to make YOU feel good. Realistically, you won't have time to do anything but use your primary firearm, and that's it. All these other scenarios, or what if's are kind of far fetched. I realize that things happen, but the odds of you having to use extra firearms or extra mags are pretty low. Things happen fast in this world. I think that awareness, training, and practice are more beneficial than carrying around extra weight that you most likely won't be able to use. JMHO........carry on.........................

Bawanna
09-21-2016, 02:04 PM
That's mostly true.
The reality is we all think like warriors who go forth to slay the dragon and most of us would. We get involved.
But the legal reality is most of us have to play defense only. Meaning we can only deploy to stop the threat and remove ourselves or our loved ones from the danger.

We can't pursue, basically we have to retreat. So the majority of the time we won't need much ammo. Perhaps one or two shots and more often than not just the display of the gun will have a dramatic effect on future actions, IE: the bad guy is gonna split or give up when they find they aren't in easy pickings.

I think of the extra mags and gun like a fire extinguisher. Never needed one, well actually I did one time when the truck caught on fire for a bit but it weren't no big deal, hurt my arm more than the truck than goodness. But that don't mean you shouldn't keep one around the house just in case.

I'd feel more comfy walking around with a Winchester (92 would be my preference) but those days are gone and I don't see them ever coming back.

Islander
09-21-2016, 02:52 PM
I carry an extra magazine. More for the possibility of a malfunction then for more ammo. Never carry a Back Up Gun gun.

berettabone
09-21-2016, 02:52 PM
I'd like an 870 with sabots:o:o

Bawanna
09-21-2016, 03:43 PM
If it was a shotgun I'm partial to the 97 myself.

Ed M
09-21-2016, 05:07 PM
I think that awareness, training, and practice are more beneficial than carrying around extra weight that you most likely won't be able to use.

THIS.

About a year ago, while I was in the hospital following surgery, my Sister and I had a heart to heart talk. She is an attorney, and was concerned for her safety. Hearing about some situations that occurred in her profession, I was also highly concerned. "Maybe I should buy a gun" was her response. I agreed that she should own and carry a gun (duh!), but stressed that just having one wasn't enough. Responsible gun safety, training, practice, and awareness were part of the "package", and I told her I was gonna be tough on her - for her own good. And I WAS.

Now, she doesn't own "A" gun - she owns three! She maintains her weapons entirely herself, shoots every week at the range, has taken several self defense classes, and most importantly, is armed every minute where allowed by law. She has already been in two situations where her situational awareness has probably saved her from being a victim.

Knowledge is key, and I'm SOOOO proud of how far my Sister has progressed. She's more confident, and surely more secure. She has free ammo for life (my promise), and she bugs the living snot out of me all the time - "When are we going shooting?" Like R. Lee Ermey says in the Glock commercial, "Somebody picked the WRONG girl".

That's her new nickname. Wrong Girl. Amuses me to no end. :cool:

jeepster09
09-21-2016, 05:22 PM
Hmm...i've known some :w00t: wrong girls over the years...:behindsofa:

piguy
09-22-2016, 07:13 AM
In my former life as a cop, a BUG saved my carcass a couple of times.

I am always amused by those who say "If I can't solve the problem with (insert round number here), then a reload is pointless. These statements are generally made by someone who has not been in a gunfight.

I had an incident where one arm was rendered useless early in the fight. It can and does happen.

My solution is to carry a gun that can be activated by the left or right arm quickly with reloads for each.

Statistics will not meant squat to you if you find yourself in a deadly fight, that much I am certain of. Statistically, the chances of needing a firearm at all are mighty slim. So why bother? We all have to work out our own salvation.

Barth
09-22-2016, 07:21 AM
In my former life as a cop, a BUG saved my carcass a couple of times.

I am always amused by those who say "If I can't solve the problem with (insert round number here), then a reload is pointless. These statements are generally made by someone who has not been in a gunfight.

I had an incident where one arm was rendered useless early in the fight. It can and does happen.

My solution is to carry a gun that can be activated by the left or right arm quickly with reloads for each.

Statistics will not meant squat to you if you find yourself in a deadly fight, that much I am certain of. Statistically, the chances of needing a firearm at all are mighty slim. So why bother? We all have to work out our own salvation.

+1
I'm not risking my life on statistics.
Better to hope for the best and plan for the worst.
You can't have too many guns or ammo.
But you sure can have not enough.

IMHO - pretending you have a crystal ball and know when and how a defensive situation will unfold is fools folly.
BTW I like the BUG option and picked up a Ruger LCP for that last chance option ;)

Weekends, when I can dress as I please, I'm running either a Sig P229 357 or Hk SS USPc 45, twin re-loads and this -
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/20160820_205647_zpsko755fjj.jpg

berettabone
09-22-2016, 08:01 AM
In my former life as a cop, a BUG saved my carcass a couple of times.

I am always amused by those who say "If I can't solve the problem with (insert round number here), then a reload is pointless. These statements are generally made by someone who has not been in a gunfight.

I had an incident where one arm was rendered useless early in the fight. It can and does happen.

My solution is to carry a gun that can be activated by the left or right arm quickly with reloads for each.

Statistics will not meant squat to you if you find yourself in a deadly fight, that much I am certain of. Statistically, the chances of needing a firearm at all are mighty slim. So why bother? We all have to work out our own salvation.
Most of us are not cops/ex cops. We don't insert ourselves in to these types of situations. You are absolutely correct............most of us haven't been in a gunfight, and that's the way we'd like to keep it. If I were you, I'd also get a machete, a grenade, a baton, and some tear gas, I mean you never know, right????????????????????

b4uqzme
09-22-2016, 08:06 AM
Statistics will not meant squat to you if you find yourself in a deadly fight, that much I am certain of. Statistically, the chances of needing a firearm at all are mighty slim. So why bother? We all have to work out our own salvation.

Agreed. I've never understood the "average gunfight is over in three shots" argument as an excuse to carry less ammo/fewer firearms. Once you've committed to protecting yourself, the only constraints are: what is comfortable and concealable enough that YOU will actually carry it every day.

berettabone
09-22-2016, 08:07 AM
+1
I'm not risking my life on statistics.
Better to hope for the best and plan for the worst.
You can't have too many guns or ammo.
But you sure can have not enough.

IMHO - pretending you have a crystal ball and know when and how a defensive situation will unfold is fools folly.
BTW I like the BUG option and picked up a Ruger LCP for that last chance option ;)

Weekends, when I can dress as I please, I'm running either a Sig P229 357 or Hk SS USPc 45, twin re-loads and this -
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/20160820_205647_zpsko755fjj.jpg
I sure hope that you never have to defend yourself.......................you'll end up being fools folly and bankrupt at the least when the DA tells everyone how and what you were carrying at the time. Yes, I do worry about that situation also. I would think that being the black belt that you are, you could catch the bullets in your teeth, dispatch the would be assassin, and be home in time to watch your 60" tv.

Barth
09-22-2016, 08:54 AM
Agreed. I've never understood the "average gunfight is over in three shots" argument as an excuse to carry less ammo/fewer firearms. Once you've committed to protecting yourself, the only constraints are: what is comfortable and concealable enough that YOU will actually carry it every day.
+1
Playing the statistics game is a great way to get your self ln trouble. It just makes common sense to carry the largest most powerful handgun(s) and as much ammo as you are proficient with and willing to carry. The kicker is of course what will you dress around and are willing (or able) to carry on a regular basis?

piguy
09-22-2016, 10:58 AM
Most of us are not cops/ex cops. We don't insert ourselves in to these types of situations. You are absolutely correct............most of us haven't been in a gunfight, and that's the way we'd like to keep it. If I were you, I'd also get a machete, a grenade, a baton, and some tear gas, I mean you never know, right????????????????????

Well I am not a cop and not an ex-cop. I am a retired law enforcement officer as is my wife. I promise you I do not "insert" myself into "those" situations any longer.

Sometimes situations insert themselves into us you know. Can't say I ever knew any sane person that wanted to be in a gunfight, so we can agree on that.

I appreciate your advice on carrying additional weapons, but I will try to manage with my current set-up. My crystal ball is broken and I flunked mind-reading as well. Perhaps you have some other advice for me on how to avoid and win a gunfight?

Bawanna
09-22-2016, 11:59 AM
Let us not get over heated or overwrought. I try not to let lawyers or courts effect my staying alive plan.
Different strokes for different folks.

For me I prefer Khukri's over machete's, already have a baton but don't carry it much, not allowed grenades. I have access to tear gas but don't feel the need for it either.

I find myself in the have it and not need it boat rather than the need it and not have it.

If the courts want to have a go at me because I'm a warrior and want to defend myself and my family, friends or underdogs, let em have it.

wyntrout
09-22-2016, 12:55 PM
I carry my single stack Kahrs... usually P40 and for max concealment my P380. I always carry the largest Kahr mag for a reload and I carry my FAST Draw Gerber knife opposite side for a backup. An extra magazine is essential to me... more ammo if needed, or if the magazine departs the pistol for some reason in a scuffle. Sh... stuff happens!

One in the chamber is mandatory for me, as is topping off the magazine. I should have at least one round to fire, and chambering a round is an area where lots of problems happen... IF you have enough hands and time to PROPERLY rack the slide to chamber a round. Just remember in the fight or flight response that your body engages causes problems with fine motor skills, so a LOT of practice can help you do things with less thought as your adrenaline is pumping and tunnel vision is focusing on the singlemost threat at that instance.

Barth
09-22-2016, 01:25 PM
Let us not get over heated or overwrought. I try not to let lawyers or courts effect my staying alive plan.
Different strokes for different folks.

For me I prefer Khukri's over machete's, already have a baton but don't carry it much, not allowed grenades. I have access to tear gas but don't feel the need for it either.

I find myself in the have it and not need it boat rather than the need it and not have it.

If the courts want to have a go at me because I'm a warrior and want to defend myself and my family, friends or underdogs, let em have it.

+1
Judged by 12 or carried by 6.
It's an easy choice ;)