New cw380, is this normal?

[mbesp]

Picked up the cw380 from the shop and got it home.
I tried taking it down and the slide lock was so stuck I couldn't push it from the back and had to use a small screw driver under the slide lock to pop it out.
After getting the slide off I found a ton of plastic shavings and it looks like the gun has been fired quite a bit. I went to put the gun back together and had a heck of a time getting the slide stop back in. I got some pictures and the slide stop looks pretty roughed up. So do Kahrs normally come this dirty and are these shaving normal?

Some pics
Here is a blurry pick of a large pile of shavings that were kind of wedged into the slide stop hole
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/Frame%20Shavings_zpss7dilyh4.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/Frame%20Shavings_zpss7dilyh4.jpg.html)

Here are the shavings, hopefully I got them out of anything important.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5575_zpskx4nqonl.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5575_zpskx4nqonl.jpg.html)

A few of the slide stop

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5574_zpsrjee6vik.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5574_zpsrjee6vik.jpg.html)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5566_zpswpwjumna.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5566_zpswpwjumna.jpg.html)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5565_zpsdqu24egn.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5565_zpsdqu24egn.jpg.html)

And then a few of the slide.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5562_zpsbzbvhlmx.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5562_zpsbzbvhlmx.jpg.html)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5571_zpsadrpguui.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5571_zpsadrpguui.jpg.html)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/mbesp/CW380/IMG_5573_zpsexf5a2lc.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/mbesp/media/CW380/IMG_5573_zpsexf5a2lc.jpg.html)

This is my first Kahr so maybe this is normal?

[b4uqzme]

Yes. Shavings are normal. Just clean them out and prepare to go shooting.

Your gun looks pretty dirty but Kahr does test fire them and ship them dirty. Your dealer may have test fired it also? I think the finish color may exxagerate how dirty it looks too.

The slide stop fits tight. Again I think the finish color shows the rub marks. Are there any gouges or burrs? Removing and installing the pin gets easier through the break-in. It's best you check the slide stop spring orientation before you start shooting. Here's a video that shows it's orientation/adjustment. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c50P7HCAATo

Otherwise, check the prep stickies in the new member area to make sure you are lubed up and ready to start. Let us know how she functions.

Keep checking this thread to see if any keener eyes pick up anything from your pictures.

Happy shootin! Welcome.

[mbesp]

I ordered it through Davidsons' Gallery of Guns and picked it up at a small local shop. I don't think the local shop has a place to test fire but maybe Davidsons does extra test firing after the cerakote?

The slide stop didn't appear to have any burs but the on area looked like it might have had the slightest indent in it.

I'll double check where I lubed and take it out to get some shots down range and report back.

My first Kahr experience is a little different than I was expecting but hopefully it'll prove itself to be trust worthy.
Thanks for the info.

[berettabone]

I will not comment on what I see as far as anything wrong, everyone see's things a bit differently, and I am certainly not judging the firearm or you. I would not be happy, and would not have accepted it in that condition myself.

[Bobshouse]

I'm with berettabone on this one, that gun has been fired more than just the test firing. Did you get a discount price? I hate to say it, but it looks like you may have received a "Davidson's" lifetime warrantied pistol return instead of a new one.

[b4uqzme]

^^^ that may have been the right call but that ship has sailed. I REALLY think the Ceracote is making things look worse than they are. It's rubbing through in places? But shouldn't impair function.

[berettabone]

If this is a new firearm, would the Ceracote be coming off in a few test fires? Will it impair function? Of course not, but............................................... .................................................

[mbesp]

Yeah, I was going to disassemble at the store but it was so sticky I gave up and figured its just a little tight because it is new. It was a little disappointing when I finally got into it and realized I probably should have denied it.

[Bobshouse]

Hey, don't beat yourself up and get yourself depressed. Clean it up and if you have any problems there are several very, no make that VERY knowledgeable people here that can get you up and running. It is normal for the plastic rails to shed a little during break-in. They have nothing to do with the actual lock-up, they are there to aid in reassembly only. As others have mentioned in past threads, the gun will work perfectly without them.

[b4uqzme]

^^^ yep. I don't see anything there that should keep it from running. And I bet it looks great assembled. So break it in and enjoy it. But let is know if you hit any speed bumps.

[Ikeo74]

Do Kahrs come in that color now? First yellow/gold one I have seen.

[mbesp]

Thanks guys. I got it cleaned up and tomorrow's forecast is looking great. The plan is to get out and put some rounds down range.

[mbesp]

Do Kahrs come in that color now? First yellow/gold one I have seen.

It is a Davidson's exclusive. I think they did one with a purple frame in the past.

[berettabone]

They ceracoted the trigger also??????????????????????????????

[CJB]

Thanks guys. I got it cleaned up and tomorrow's forecast is looking great. The plan is to get out and put some rounds down range.

Jeeze.... stop the presses.

First off, Davidson's does not sell used guns as new. They're a class act. Guns "returned" are marked as used, blem, 2nd, B stock... whatever the manufacturer determines is the verbiage to designate. Davidson's has the option to repair before replacing too. I'd not worry about that sort of thing at all.

Second, the frame holes are drilled (and probably reamed as well) during the manufacturing process. What you're seeing is swarf (google swarf if you need to, please). In manufacturing, that sort of thing is removed, usually be compressed air, sometimes by water. Occasionally a bit gets stuck in a place that makes the swarf removal process ineffective. Happens. Passes by the eye of the assembler. Black on black... in some recess... happens.

Just clean it out, and shoot the fokker like you stole it.

Shooters complain about a chip or chad on the frame rail, or on the back of the frame or any odd place. Clean 'em off and keep shooting. Time and time again, this sort of question has come up, and time and time again, its a flash in the pan.

The finish is the finish... Cerakote will wear. K-Kote will wear. They all wear. That's the way it is. Granted too, like was mentioned, the light colored finish shows every gritty speck and morsel like the glaring wart on a witches chin (with a nod and wink to the recent election).

(edited in)

Forgot to mention too, that the hole in the frame is about as tight as a crab's ass under water, on purpose. It is hard to withdraw the slide stop on a new gun. As you shoot, things will loosen up a bit, and you'll find the pin will ease out after a few hundred full house rounds have gone down the drainpipe.

[yqtszhj]

^^^ yep. I don't see anything there that should keep it from running. And I bet it looks great assembled. So break it in and enjoy it. But let is know if you hit any speed bumps.
This^^^ . Go enjoy it.

by the way, I like that color.

[mbesp]

Thanks for the continued responses. I got out a little late and managed to get 50 rounds through it with no problems. Fun little shooter for sure.

Im not too worried about the wear on the cerakote inside the frame. Just wasn't sure if that was and indication of something out of the norm.

They did ceracote the frame and the slide stop. The slide stop is the only piece that wasn't the best. The slide and trigger are smith and look very good.

[yqtszhj]

Good report. if you get the itch and want some contrast you coild always put a stainless slide stop on it. or even just polish the one you got but that may be a bit more work.

[mbesp]

Maybe someday down the road I'll pick up a new slide stop or polish this one up but for now it Isn't bad just not as good as the other pieces.

Got ot out again today and got another 100 rounds through it. Still running like a champ with no malfunctions.

I either have to adjust the screw or I am hitting the slide stop with my thumb because the slide never locks back on an empty mag. I'll probably worry about that later.

Also the side of my trigger finger seems to get beat up by the trigger guard. Probably a technique issue there though.

Anyway, digging this little kahr, hoping it keeps running strong. 👍

[mbesp]

I figured I could do a little update here. I made it through the 200 break in rounds and have had zero hiccups. I've tried a few different brands and nothing has slowed it down. I think locking the slide back for a few days when you first get the gun helps a lot.

I am still having trouble with getting the slide to lock back on the last round but I think it is just where my thumb is sitting it is hitting the slide stop lever.


Also as I mentioned above and I did make a little joke video with the gun. I posted a link in the general forum but I figured I could toss it here as well if anyone is interested in it.
https://youtu.be/HAbTyk_AV5w

[dustnchips]

I have the same trigger finger problem with my CW380. Use as little of your trigger finger pad as you feel comfortable with and it may help a little.

[mbesp]

Ill try that next time I get out. I actually have the remnants of a blood blister on my finger from shooting the first day.

The gun has eaten up a little over 250 rounds now without a failure (not counting slide locking back on empty). It is fun to shoot and I am kind of getting used to the sights.


I have the same trigger finger problem with my CW380. Use as little of your trigger finger pad as you feel comfortable with and it may help a little.

[dustnchips]

I put the night sights on mine and find them much easier to use. $80 plus $40 for installation and sighting in. A great up grade for me. With glasses I see the sights and without I see the target. It isn't a matter of total blindness, just a matter of sharpness. I usually shoot half with and half without.

[mbesp]

Kahr's night sights or another brand?


I put the night sights on mine and find them much easier to use. $80 plus $40 for installation and sighting in. A great up grade for me. With glasses I see the sights and without I see the target. It isn't a matter of total blindness, just a matter of sharpness. I usually shoot half with and half without.

[dustnchips]

I got them from Kahr. The back dovetail was too tight to move without a pusher so I took it to a gunsmith. The price was reasonable and he lined them up and test shot it. Mostly they are bigger and easier to line up quickly with my bad eyes.

[mbesp]

Cool. I might have to look into those. I do like having night sights.


I got them from Kahr. The back dovetail was too tight to move without a pusher so I took it to a gunsmith. The price was reasonable and he lined them up and test shot it. Mostly they are bigger and easier to line up quickly with my bad eyes.