Trump to Push for Nationwide Conceal Carry Law

[DanTana]

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/hudson-proposes-national-concealed-carry-bill

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-lawmaker-betting-trump-push-162700407.html;_ylt=AwrBT72LfUxYC34AN.5XNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYw NzYw--

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/

Rep. Richard Hudson (http://data.rollcall.com/members/44602?rel=memberLink), R-North Carolina, says he is preparing legislation that would allow those with concealed carry permits in their state to cross state lines.
According to the Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/gop-congressman-preps-national-concealed-carry-bill-for-next-congress/), Hudson's legislation would allow people with a state-issued concealed carry license to carry a handgun to any other state that allows concealed carry if the person is not banned from possessing or transporting a firearm by federal law.
Hudson said he planned on introducing the legislation, called the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, during the next Congress. He introduced a similar bill in 2015.
“As a member of President-elect Trump’s Second Amendment Coalition, I look forward to working with the administration to advance policies that support and protect our right to keep and bear arms,” Hudson told the Daily Caller.

MAGA

UPDATE:
National Reciprocity for Concealed Carry Passes, Next Stop House Floor

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/29/national-reciprocity-concealed-carry-passes-next-stop-house-floor/

House approves concealed-carry reciprocity, gun bill faces challenge in SenateSenate needs 60 votes to pass. Lets cross our fingers and hope.

[ripley16]

It would be nice but I'll not hold my breath waiting.

[JohnR]

Reciprocity, yes. A Federal law, unconstitutional. We already have the 2A, that covers everything.

[knkali]

Reciprocity, yes. A Federal law, unconstitutional. We already have the 2A, that covers everything.

THANK YOU for your post. It is very often forgotten that they cannot give us something we should already have. My state would argue that point though

[Bobshouse]

Won't help Californians. California is above the law.

[desmobob]

Here's a deeper look at the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJvgyfQo87M

I thought it was pretty interesting....

Tight groups,
Bob

[CPTKILLER]

This is a win for shooters and patriots and a new game for the socialist states. They will whine and fight this in federal court for a decade and eventually lose.

[downtownv]

THANK YOU for your post. It is very often forgotten that they cannot give us something we should already have. My state would argue that point though
So would mine but their heads will explode and it'll be fun to watch!

http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14539&stc=1

[deadeye]

I know I am young and innocent but it sure makes me wonder where the Socialist states come up with the money to fight these things. Gun control, sanctuary cities, out of control welfare and now DeBlasio is saying the New York taxpayers are going to pay for psychologists to help the poor folks who can't accept the election results. I worked nearly 50 years, 6-7 days a week to support my family. Didn't know what a 40 hr week was. Man was I an idiot!!!

[Bawanna]

Amen brother. I've never drawn an unemployment check in my life, often times have side jobs in addition to full time jobs and the welfare crowd seems to be doing better than I am, much better.

Maybe I'm just too materialistic or something, newest car in 16 years old so not like I'm driving a Mercedes ya know.

[downtownv]

Maybe I'm just too materialistic or something, newest car in 16 years old so not like I'm driving a Mercedes ya know.

I heard this banned dude wasn't neither.... MBSL500

[Redstate]

If the feds can control firearms through the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution (they in fact do), then the feds can constitutionally permit national carry through the same clause. The privileges and immunities clause and the right to travel would also be available to empower the feds.

I sure hope this goes through. The places where one needs a firearm the most are the places that prohibit same.

[yqtszhj]

I know I am young and innocent but it sure makes me wonder where the Socialist states come up with the money to fight these things. Gun control, sanctuary cities, out of control welfare and now DeBlasio is saying the New York taxpayers are going to pay for psychologists to help the poor folks who can't accept the election results. I worked nearly 50 years, 6-7 days a week to support my family. Didn't know what a 40 hr week was. Man was I an idiot!!!

Amen brother. Don't know who's saying life is easy with no challenges.

[yqtszhj]

I heard this banned dude wasn't neither.... MBSL500



How do you get banned from here? I ain't ever been banned from anywhere so I must not be having all the fun I could be having.

[Bawanna]

I'll move the line a little closer for ya. It's ok to have fun here, actually it's mandatory, those that don't want to have fun are the ones that get travel vouchers.

Never take like too seriously, nobody gets out alive.

[Armybrat]

I will be very disappointed if this latest group of republicans doesn't get reciprocity passed & signed into law. They had their chance during Bush1's first term and failed... badly.

If the democrats try to filibuster it, then use the nuke option.

We shall see.

[Longitude Zero]

What one Administration can give another one can take away.

[yqtszhj]

What one Administration can give another one can take away.

I'd sure like to take away their retirement plan. That may be off topic but just sayin.

[knkali]

I will be very disappointed if this latest group of republicans doesn't get reciprocity passed & signed into law. They had their chance during Bush1's first term and failed... badly.

If the democrats try to filibuster it, then use the nuke option.

We shall see.

I hope so too but I seriously doubt it happening.

[Barth]

Federal law making SBRs and suppressors allowed without the ATF )U)((&&^%% would be nice.
With communist strongholds like Kalifornia and NY.
Nation wide permits seem very unlikely to me.
Maybe one permit for the block of states I like to think of as The Free Zone.
:Amflag2:

[OvalNut]

I sure hope this goes through. The places where one needs a firearm the most are the places that prohibit same.




Amen !


Tim

[tv_racin_fan]

I would prefer nationwide Constitutional Carry.

Nationwide reciprocity would be nice BUT I guarantee that many will argue that for that they have to have some nationwide standards to go with it. Which may well mean that my state would have to change their permitting requirements. I am not interested in having the requirement to take some class or pass some test in order to be allowed to exercize my right to keep and bear.

[thughes]

So, I've been trying to work through the logistics of national reciprocity and I just can't see it working. One of the youtube CA gun guys is telling all CA residents to get a non-resident permit and then they'll be able to carry even if they can't get a CA permit due to the BS "may issue" crap in that state.

Here in NY, one of the requirements of the "SAFE" act is that permit holders have to "recertify" every 5 years (mental health check, criminal bg check, etc.) I began to wonder what happens if national reciprocity passes and I decide not to "recertify" my NY permit. Given that if I don't recertify, the NYSP notify the local county clerk to revoke my permit. Once revoked, someone has to come for my guns (All of them! This includes long guns too according to the "SAFE" act, even though we aren't required to register long guns and therefore the state has no way of knowing what long guns I own). But I digress......

When the NYSP show up for my guns, can I just tell them to piss off and show them my PA/FL/UT permits because "national reciprocity"? Or does seizure happen regardless by virtue of NYS penal code that states my guns get confiscated upon revocation of my NY permit?

Is this national reciprocity valid in special enclaves like NYC where even our NYS permits are not valid?

If national reciprocity goes into effect, how do I purchase handguns in the future? Federal law prohibits face-to-face sales of handguns to out of state residents and requires that guns are sent to the resident state FFL. Most states with handgun licensing schemes require a valid in-state CCW permit for residents to purchase a handgun from an FFL, so how do I buy a handgun in NY having only a PA/UT/FL ccw? Unless NYS law changes, you will never be able to purchase a handgun w/o a valid NY permit.

Too many screwed up scenarios for this thing to ever work. The only solution is NOT national reciprocity but national Constitutional Carry as validated by the Second Amendment. Anything less will never pass and seems impossible to implement.

Just some food for thought.

[downtownv]

How do you get banned from here? I ain't ever been banned from anywhere so I must not be having all the fun I could be having.

Oh this lil Prickly WAS banned!

[DanTana]

My son and I just completed our CCL class last weekend, and was an excellent class. I opted not to add any extra states to my license hoping Trump would get the Reciprocity law passed. The instructor mention that as well. It would work like a drivers license, where you can drive in all 50 states, you just have to follow the laws in each one.

[berettabone]

That's the key. Just because there is a national reciprocity, doesn't mean that some states won't make it very difficult to follow their state laws.........................

[knkali]

I know I am young and innocent but it sure makes me wonder where the Socialist states come up with the money to fight these things. Gun control, sanctuary cities, out of control welfare and now DeBlasio is saying the New York taxpayers are going to pay for psychologists to help the poor folks who can't accept the election results. I worked nearly 50 years, 6-7 days a week to support my family. Didn't know what a 40 hr week was. Man was I an idiot!!!

I dig!!!! thanks for sharing. Many idiots seem to live here on this forum.
Reciprocity? Kalifornia? really?

[jg rider]

So, I've been trying to work through the logistics of national reciprocity and I just can't see it working. One of the youtube CA gun guys is telling all CA residents to get a non-resident permit and then they'll be able to carry even if they can't get a CA permit due to the BS "may issue" crap in that state.

Here in NY, one of the requirements of the "SAFE" act is that permit holders have to "recertify" every 5 years (mental health check, criminal bg check, etc.) I began to wonder what happens if national reciprocity passes and I decide not to "recertify" my NY permit. Given that if I don't recertify, the NYSP notify the local county clerk to revoke my permit. Once revoked, someone has to come for my guns (All of them! This includes long guns too according to the "SAFE" act, even though we aren't required to register long guns and therefore the state has no way of knowing what long guns I own). But I digress......

When the NYSP show up for my guns, can I just tell them to piss off and show them my PA/FL/UT permits because "national reciprocity"? Or does seizure happen regardless by virtue of NYS penal code that states my guns get confiscated upon revocation of my NY permit?

Is this national reciprocity valid in special enclaves like NYC where even our NYS permits are not valid?

If national reciprocity goes into effect, how do I purchase handguns in the future? Federal law prohibits face-to-face sales of handguns to out of state residents and requires that guns are sent to the resident state FFL. Most states with handgun licensing schemes require a valid in-state CCW permit for residents to purchase a handgun from an FFL, so how do I buy a handgun in NY having only a PA/UT/FL ccw? Unless NYS law changes, you will never be able to purchase a handgun w/o a valid NY permit.

Too many screwed up scenarios for this thing to ever work. The only solution is NOT national reciprocity but national Constitutional Carry as validated by the Second Amendment. Anything less will never pass and seems impossible to implement.

Just some food for thought.

Ah yes !
This brings back fond memories of living in NYC and having a pistol permit back in the mid 70's. It was hell of getting the permit.

When after a few months of moving out of state my pistol permit expired for the 3 gun maximum I was allowed. Wife still was in NY closing her business. About 11:00 PM 2 cops show up at her house to confiscate my now illegal pistols.
She tells them that I moved out of state and took the guns with me. The demanded and threatened to know where I was, because they claimed the guns had become the property of the city of N.Y. Knowing my wife I'm sure she told them what they could do.

Yea showing up at the house at 11:00 PM ? The only thing those guns were ever gonna see was the cops personal collection. I know from personal observations what I'm talking about.
Back then I was assigned to work in court houses in Brooklyn N.Y. There were break rooms where cops would wait before testifying and I personally would see they would show off to each other the weapons they had taken had taken off someone for their own personal collections.

The 70's was a bad year for police corruption in NYC

[Bobshouse]

It still goes on JG rider...dates change but nothing else does.

[OvalNut]

I have my Weapons Carry License in GA, and have only ever carried concealed, which I do daily.

I'd love to open carry, which I am fully permitted to do, yet part of me just doesn't see the need to do.


Tim

[KP3284]

Indiana is silent on the issue of concealed vs open carry as I feel it should be . I would hate to be going around checking to make sure I'm concealed carrying at all times. But, I'm glad a national standard (not abolition) of carry is being pursued


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[downtownv]

I now officially have ZERO, None, Nada confidence in the Senate or the House. They will not let Trump Succeed as he is ruining their little Monopoly game.

[Barth]

I now officially have ZERO, None, Nada confidence in the Senate or the House. They will not let Trump Succeed as he is ruining their little Monopoly game.

I'm feeling the same way.
Both parties are corrupt.
President Trump is getting resistance from his own party.
Career Politicians must be removed from office.
IMHO there needs to be a house cleaning within both parties.
Lots of Republicans are bought and paid for.
The Reckoning needs to continue...
:Amflag2:

[berettabone]

They need to get rid of political dinosaurs. People like Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, Warren, McCain, Feinstein, Reid, Hatch etc. These people aren't even members of our planet anymore. They sleep during meetings, just like to hear themselves babble, and waste taxpayers money wanting investigations, and committees, and special prosecutors for everything. TERM LIMITS FOR DINOSAURS.

[knkali]

^^bam

[TheLastDaze]

it would be sweet.... cause when i take road trips i have to worry about which states dont recognize my permit

[DanTana]

Finally, some progress on this issue.

National Reciprocity for Concealed Carry Passes, Next Stop House Floor
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/29/national-reciprocity-concealed-carry-passes-next-stop-house-floor/

[jeepster09]

I know I am young and innocent but it sure makes me wonder where the Socialist states come up with the money to fight these things. Gun control, sanctuary cities, out of control welfare and now DeBlasio is saying the New York taxpayers are going to pay for psychologists to help the poor folks who can't accept the election results. I worked nearly 50 years, 6-7 days a week to support my family. Didn't know what a 40 hr week was. Man was I an idiot!!!

They get the money from the blank minds that keep re-electing socialism...

[OldLincoln]

From NRA:
Fairfax, Va.—The National Rifle Association applauded the United States House of Representatives on Wednesday for passing the most far-reaching expansion of self-defense rights in modern American history. The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/actions?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22concealed+carry+ reciprocity+act%22%5D%7D) passed with bipartisan support in a 231-198 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/actions?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22concealed+carry+ reciprocity+act%22%5D%7D)vote.

[taroman]

Beware.
There's a poison pill in that bill.
Enhanced/expanded NCIS checks.

So what's likely to happen is that the House Senate conference tosses out the carry part, keeping the NCIS expansion.
Back to the House where those who voted for it will be loathe to vote against that which they formerly supported.