CM9 magazine gap

[robistro]

Posted this on another site, but didnt get too many answers other than yep thats how it looks. Im looking for a remedy, or maybe my grip is bad?

Anyone get their finger pinched on the magazine? I'd post a picture, but I cant until I reach like 50 or so posts, so I'll try my best to explain. I have the pinky extension on the 6 round mag, and theres about an 1/8" gap from bottom of the grip to the mag. This gap is also visible with the flat floor plate mag. When shooting at the range, I got my finger pinched 2x, then gave up on the pinky extension and just gripped with 2 fingers.

Anyone else experience this? If so, how did you fix the issue?

Thanks for any help.

[bbjwho]

The CM9 gap is standard. Look on the internet or gunbroker and you'll see the 1 to 2mm gap between grip and mag in most pics. Poor design if you ask me but I knowingly purchased it nonetheless with the premise this will be a backup gun and not a pleasure shooter. Thankfully the CW380 does not have this design issue.

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[verfolgt]

Yep, same on my PM45. Got pinched once. I've just gotten some mags I'm going to work on to see if I can get a flush fit without losing round count.


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[Bawanna]

Wynn I think uses a rubber Oring on that gap to fill it and prevent the pinching.
There's a thread around here someplace dealing with that.

[Sidecar]

How/when is it pinching? While shooting or loading your mag? I have the extensions on pm9 and cw9, but have not gotten pinched.

[robistro]

Wynn I think uses a rubber Oring on that gap to fill it and prevent the pinching.
There's a thread around here someplace dealing with that.

Thanks for the heads up...I might have to DIY something to slide over the mag. Agree it should have been designed with a tighter fit. (but Im not the engineer) Otherwise no issues.

* found the o-ring thread. Not sure why I didnt find it on my 1st search. typo maybe. Might give it a try, but maybe the mag is suppose to have some movement for proper feed?
I'll have to test it out or just remove the pinky extension, but I dont have the flat floor plate, the pinky extension came pre-installed from the factory. Maybe I'll call customer service and ask for the flat one back.
















Otherwise, no issues.

[68Firebird]

I replaced the metal baseplate on my 6rd mag with one from LakelineLLC. It solved the problem.

They offer two styles. I got the one for standalone and extended mags. Also get their retainer.

[LeeTn]

In case the (empty) magazine doesn't drop free, you might find that gap useful: grab the floor plate and pull the mag free.

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[robistro]

I replaced the metal baseplate on my 6rd mag with one from LakelineLLC. It solved the problem.

They offer two styles. I got the one for standalone and extended mags. Also get their retainer.
Thanks Firebird, I'll check into.
Any photos of how it looks?

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[Alfonse]

Thanks Firebird, I'll check into.
Any photos of how it looks?

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They don't eliminate the gap. For the base plates to work on all the pistols, and to have the over travel required to allow the mag catch to actually catch, there is going to be some gap. On an individual pistol, I'm sure you can use an o-ring but I found that if I made the gap too small, I lost the ability for it to function in every pistol.

[bugs]

robistro,I may have a alternate solution;I shoot the short mags w/modified pinkys and never been bit shooting with a freestyle,strong hand, or weak hand grip, and wondered why no bites.it may be because I have a Houge slip on sleeve that has a small palm swell on both sides. this seems to give me a better feel and does not affect OWB/IWB or pocket carry draws. might be worth a try;a two birds for one maybe?

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER

[robistro]

They don't eliminate the gap. For the base plates to work on all the pistols, and to have the over travel required to allow the mag catch to actually catch, there is going to be some gap. On an individual pistol, I'm sure you can use an o-ring but I found that if I made the gap too small, I lost the ability for it to function in every pistol.
got it...makes sense. I'm sure they all require movement. I called Kahr, they are going to send me some flat floor plates to try out..no charge. They said if that doesn't work call back and they will help to remedy the problem. pretty good service.
I don't use pinky extensions on my XDs..just a 2 finger grip, so I'm sure it will all work out.

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[robistro]

robistro,I may have a alternate solution;I shoot the short mags w/modified pinkys and never been bit shooting with a freestyle,strong hand, or weak hand grip, and wondered why no bites.it may be because I have a Houge slip on sleeve that has a small palm swell on both sides. this seems to give me a better feel and does not affect OWB/IWB or pocket carry draws. might be worth a try;a two birds for one maybe?

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER
Thanks...I forgot to mention I too had the Hogue grip on the gun.

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[68Firebird]

They don't eliminate the gap.

They don't eliminate the gap, but in my case it solved the problem. I no longer get pinched. Actually, I think it was a sharp edge on the metal base that I was feeling. That part went away.
I'm not far enough along on this forum to post pictures, but send me your email in a PM and I'll send you a photo.

[robistro]

sorry guys, posting on my phone is a royal pain... for some reason Im receiving posts out of order.

[robistro]

They don't eliminate the gap. For the base plates to work on all the pistols, and to have the over travel required to allow the mag catch to actually catch, there is going to be some gap. On an individual pistol, I'm sure you can use an o-ring but I found that if I made the gap too small, I lost the ability for it to function in every pistol.

for some reason the magazine gap on this Kahr is larger than any other pistol I've had. The floorplate on my XDs magazine is almost hitting the grip and has zero malfunctions. I dont know why Kahr manufactured the magazine with a gap this large. Im sure it has to do with the way the gun is engineered, but if its pinching fingers its not a good design. Other than this 'flaw' the gun seems well built, runs good, and is ideal for conceal in the 9mm. No reason for a 380 if you have this gun. IMO

[Alfonse]

The XDS magazine implementation is a relative work of art.

[robistro]

Ok so I received the baseplates from Kahr the other day so thought Id report back. They sent the wrong baseplates. I called CS today and the dude stated they were for the CW9, the baseplates were plastic and the CM9 should be the steel plates. So they are sending me back out the correct baseplate this time around, I hope. In the mean time I ordered a 6 round magazine and I like it better than the Pierce pinky extension. IMO that pinky extension needs modified for the Kahr or shouldnt be made at all. The flat metal baseplate is the way to go for me. No issues with it at all.
I did notice that the magazine follower was shaped slightly different than the mag that came with the gun. I read about this on another forum and seems to be the same case for me. Although I have had no problems with FTF or FTE . Thanks for all the input. Helpful info on this site.

[Texas48]

for some reason the magazine gap on this Kahr is larger than any other pistol I've had. The floorplate on my XDs magazine is almost hitting the grip and has zero malfunctions. I dont know why Kahr manufactured the magazine with a gap this large. Im sure it has to do with the way the gun is engineered, but if its pinching fingers its not a good design. Other than this 'flaw' the gun seems well built, runs good, and is ideal for conceal in the 9mm. No reason for a 380 if you have this gun. IMO

Check out the gap on a Glock 30. Mags on all Glock's aren't flush fit. Pretty reliable handguns in my humble opinion.


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[robistro]

Check out the gap on a Glock 30. Mags on all Glock's aren't flush fit. Pretty reliable handguns in my humble opinion.


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Thanks for the info...
I meant to reference the Pierce pinky extension floor plate on the mag. Im sure it might not bother some people, but doesnt work for me.
The mag is fine without the pinky extension.
Finally....I was able to post a photo!
http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14622&stc=1