My experience with a few of my pocket holsters and the CM9.

[Lazareth]

I initially thought I had found my favorite with the Blackhawk #3, and I do still find it comfortable and takes up very little pocket space. The gun fits in the holster nicely. But over time I've found two issues that I don't prefer. One, most of the time when I draw the holster comes right out with it. Two, I don't feel it offers enough protection to the gun just in case I happen to bump into something. Just personal preferences.

The Desantis is a nice alternative. The holster stays in the pocket and the rubberized shell offers much more protection when compared to the super thin Blackhawk. However the stock Desantis does require some alteration. The holster's stiching does not fit the CM9's trigger guard. After snipping a few stiches and replacing a few the rear sight now fits down into the holster where it should and gun fits properly. Its not quite as comfortable as the Blackhawk or the Sticky but works well.

The Sticky MD1 is also working better after some alteration as well. My first negative impression has changed. At first I found the gun to move around too much in the holster so some stiching was required to snug it up. After doing that it works much better for me. I do find the Desantis a tad thinner but the difference isn't that much. The Sticky is more comfortable to me, doesn't take up so much pocket space width, protects the gun well, and stays in the holster reliably when drawn.

Of the 3 I've been leaning towards the Sticky. I see a few other options on the Kahr website for pocket carry and I'm quite sure over time I'm going to wind up with half a dozen or so holsters.

[gb6491]

Nice write up on the three holsters, thank you taking the time to put it together and for sharing it with us :)
Regards,
Greg

BTW, if you have any photos of your modifications to the holsters, you can use an off site host such a photobucket, tinypic, etc. to upload them, then post a link to them here. Most hosts will provide a properly coded link to post to a forum/board. Alternatively, shoot me a private message and I'll give you an email address to send them to and I'll upload them for you. You are only 10 posts away from being able to directly upload them here as an attachment.

[berettabone]

I've been using a Desantis Nemesis for over 6 years, and have found nothing that works better for a pocket holster. The wife likes the Remora because she doesn't wear a belt. Pretty comfy. I tried it, and it does stay put.

[Lazareth]

Thank you gb6491. I'll keep that in mind about photos.

I agree berettabone, the Desantis does work well but for me only after the alteration. Before that I found the gun rode too high in the holster for my tastes. The CM9 tends to get the sloppy seconds of the PM9 with holsters I'm finding so far.

What with all the different types of pockets out there I'm still finding myself switching it up depending on what I'm wearing and I feel I need even more options. I'm already picking out a few new ones for Santa to consider later this year. lol

[bugs]

while I use the Blackhawk #3 (fuzzy) for pocket carry because it can also be velcro-ed to the console when I'm driving, I've found that draws from almost any pocket holster will be improved with a little nudge to the holster with your "social finger" during the draw stroke.

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER

[Ed M]

While I like my DeSantis Nemesis for comfort, it does show a distinct gun shape in my pocket. I'm probably the only one that notices it though.

My preferred pocket holster is kydex, and it looks like my Samsung Galaxy is in my pocket. It's pretty comfortable too, and the maker (C3 Tactical Solutions) offers it in three hook lengths for different pockets. I got the standard mid length one, and it is perfect for me. It has adjustable retention and a thumb tab for a quick draw. No way the holster is gonna come out when you draw.


http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14803&stc=1

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[TXscooterguy]

My CM9 with CT Laserguard goes into a Kevin's Wallet Holster that slips into my back pocket. God forbid I ever have to reach for it.

[Lazareth]

At first glance the Kydex doesn't look that comfortable but without trying it for myself I'm in the dark. Is that rigid plastic? I do like the slim profile. I might have to try one.

If my Sticky MD1 had as thin of a profile as my Desantis I'd be satisfied. The reality I have to come to grips with is that they all print a bit, that something is indeed in my pocket. Could be anything of course and nobody really cares as I'm walking around anyway. Comfort is a major factor though.

I'm considering beefing up my Blackhawk a bit around the trigger mostly. Maybe sewing a canvas patch that would just wrap around about half way, just enough to protect the trigger a bit more for my tastes. As for the social finger wiggle to free the gun from the holster, yeah I can see that working but would I be able to work out that small detail in the chaos of a life or death situation. I'm not sure I'd be able to with any certainty.

I sometimes make the mistake of putting my LCP back in my pocket for a comparison...sigh. But I do indeed feel safer with the 9mm upgrade. The somewhat larger size is a small price to pay imo.

[Ed M]

It's pretty rigid. The only time it's less comfortable is when I get in my truck. Gotta do a quick "adjustment" and then it's fine.

Never thought it would be as comfortable as it is. Originally wanted an Alabama pocket holster, but C3 is less expensive, ships in about a week, and shipping is free. Excellent workmanship - all polished edges.

[thughes]

I really like the looks of that C3!

I've got the Alabama for my CM9, there's a little tab that allows you to use your thumb to push the holster off when drawing. Looks like the C3 has the same feature.

I've also got an Alabama for my BG380, a much nicer size for pocket carry IMHO. The CM9 is just too damn big for my tastes as a pocket carry in regular jeans or dress pants, I normally carry it AIWB. Pocket carry for the Kahr works OK in cargo (kahrgo?) shorts though.


Couple shots of the little thumb shelf:

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And the complete rig:

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https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4237/35076358970_23d90ea5de_z.jpg

[skiflydive]

I have Sticky's and Nemesis's for my CM9 and my P380 and for me they work fine. The CM9 prints quite a bit. My go to EDC is my P380 and my go to holster for that is my Uncle George Wallet holster. It's super thin, prints like a wallet, and is pretty fast.

[Lazareth]

I wear cargo pants all the time, and I've had the pockets deepened. So the printing is broken up really well being behind the big cargo pocket. The Blackhawk #3 conceals the best of all in the front pocket for sure and I'm going to modify it a bit and give it another go.

The LCP has been my main carry for years and I do feel the 380 has enough power for defensive purposes but decided to go a bit bigger for awhile.

[DM123]

I have a GALCO leather pocket holster for my PM 9. I love the feel of soft leather. http://www.galcogunleather.com/pocket-protector-holster_8_1168_1238.html?sku=PRO424

[ct9kahrtoter]

I use the BLACKHAWK! #4 pocket holster for my CM9. It is not a perfect fit, but it works good enough to cover the pistol and does not come out, with the gun, on the draw.

[Lazareth]

Of the 3 I own the winner is.....the Desantis. I like the protection the holster offers, it's about as slim as the Blackhawk, stays in the pocket. The Sticky just feels too puffed out to me in the front pocket (though its probably just all in my head). Still hanging on to it, might use it yet.

I was at wallyworld and decided to try an Uncle Mikes #4 which is basically a Blackhawk #3 just slightly wider and doesn't fit the CM9 as well. Took it back but before I did, while sitting in the "reading room", I glanced through the Uncle Mike lengthy instruction manual which covers basically every holster they make. When I got to the pocket holster section I quickly zoned in on the "do not use the holster with the gun locked and loaded".

So, is that warning simply a lawyer based blanket provision to cover their ass in case of an accident or are they warning that the neoprene holster does not offer enough trigger protection to guard against an accidental discharge (like I was feeling) such as walking along and accidently bumping your thigh on the corner of a table and striking the trigger? Or both. Probably both.

Either way my personal choice will be the Desantis at this time. But I'm not closing the door to new options.

[jonholl]

"Desantis Nemesis"

Do you folks with a Nemesis have any tips/tricks to keep the holster in the pocket when drawing? Mine keeps coming out (CM9 - cargo pants mostly)? I also have a Blackhawk that works fine, I probably should just get rid of the Nemesis.
Thanks.

[Ed M]

I have the opposite problem. The gun draws very easily, but the holster turns my pockets inside out when I try to remove the holstered gun.

Try this - insert the gun fully into the holster, put the holstered gun in your back pocket, and sit on it for a while. The holster will conform to the shape of the gun and make drawing easier.

Worked for me...

[Lazareth]

"Desantis Nemesis"

Do you folks with a Nemesis have any tips/tricks to keep the holster in the pocket when drawing? Mine keeps coming out (CM9 - cargo pants mostly)? I also have a Blackhawk that works fine, I probably should just get rid of the Nemesis.
Thanks.

I found that the Blackhawk new starts out sticking to the pocket well but it didn't take long before it lost that grip and started coming out of the pocket with the pistol more times than not.

With the Desantis you have to get the holster to "hook" onto the top rear edge of the pocket as it tries to come out with the pistol. It's a technique that requires me to pull more in a rearward diagonal direction, not straight up out of the pocket. It requires a bit of practice and I'm not 100% with it. Try adjusting your draw direction and see if it helps.

The Sticky holster stays in the pocket very well with the draw but I'm still on the fence about it possibly feeling too bulky in my pocket, still experimenting.

[kenemoore]

I have had good service from a Winthrop, rough side out, with a "hooK" to keep it in the pocket.
http://www.winthropholsters.com/kahr-cm9-pocket-holster-black-0287/

[Lazareth]

That's a good looking holster kenemoore and the price is reasonable. For me though I'm still a little cautious about leather holsters and rusting. Do you store the gun in that holster or use it just when carrying?

[kenemoore]

Yes.
I pocket carry the PM9 everyday, all day. When I take my pants off at night, I leave the pistol in the pocket. Next day, transfer to new pants. The only time it's not in the holster is if I'm shooting it or cleaning it.

My PM9 is an old style muzzle, and the black DLC coating.

[Lazareth]

Ah so no rusting issues there, cool. I'd like to get a PM9 sometime.

[bugs]

Lazareth is right about small details amid chaos; the insight I would offer is my strong belief in dry fire / dry draw reps, no matter your prefered style of carry. dry drawing five minutes a day will go a long way to turn details into habits. when I have the chance to draw live fire (up north range) from pocket carry, my pocket holster has always stayed in the pocket. I made two mods to my fuzzy Blackhawk with carpet thread to prevent the muzzle from going past the edge welt and tightened the opening behind the trigger guard.
when I draw from the pocket, the downward stroke of the "social finger" on the holster, at the back of the trigger guard, is a natural (habitual) part of my draw. P.S. don't work for speed, work for a smooth draw.

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

[finpro]

"Desantis Nemesis"

Do you folks with a Nemesis have any tips/tricks to keep the holster in the pocket when drawing? Mine keeps coming out (CM9 - cargo pants mostly)? I also have a Blackhawk that works fine, I probably should just get rid of the Nemesis.
Thanks.

When drawing, press the bottom edge of the holster, which covers the trigger guard, against the rear edge of the pocket. If the holster still holds the gun too tightly, try spraying the inside of the holster with silicone spray lubricant. This worked for me.

[lee1000]

I wish someone would try out the Blueforce Gear pocket holsters with a p380. I have one for a bodyguard and it's very thin. They don't make one for the p380 so you'd have to try one for a different pistol.

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[Lazareth]

I wish they had one of those Blueforce Holsters for the CM9 lee1000, I'd try one. They don't seem to have much of a selection.

[jonholl]

"When drawing, press the bottom edge of the holster, which covers the trigger guard, against the rear edge of the pocket. If the holster still holds the gun too tightly, try spraying the inside of the holster with silicone spray lubricant. This worked for me"

Got the CM9 sitting in the holster for a week or so to see if that works, If not I'll try the spray. I want the pistol to come out of my pocket, by itself, no matter what. Wish I could find a local "leather guy" to make me a pouch/loose type pocket holster. I've had one for my Seecamp .32 for 30 years, made out of scrap pieces, that's worked fine. Also one for a Walther PPK that also worked fine. Guy that did them passed on quite a few years ago.

[berettabone]

Put your thumb on the top left edge of the holster when drawing. It comes out clean very time. Been using a Desantis for 6+ years. I never have these issues.

[Lazareth]

I liked the comfort of the Blackhawk but wanted something made with a tougher material. I acquired a Barsony Nylon pocket holster that claimed to "fit" a Kahr CM9. Well....yeah you can fit it in there but the holster wasn't a perfect fit. The stiching needed to be tightened up and it was too long. I tried to contact them to make sure they sent the right one but no response.

Oh well, the nylon itself is fantastic and easy to work with and it was close enough of a fit that I was able to get it altered and now it fits perfectly and I must say I do like it very much. Comfortable yet strong nylon with a soft edge that doesn't print much and stays in the pocket well. Right now it's my main holster.

I also picked up one of those cheap UTG pocket holsters yesterday. Same general style of the Blackhawk and Uncle Mike but it has that extra "pocket" around the bottom half of the holster which I won't be using but I did like how it seemed to reinforce the trigger area with that extra material and it was only 6 bucks. I've not tested it yet but it seems well made. If it doesn't wind up feeling too bulky it might be ok too.

I nearly ordered a Kydex from a particular seller on Ebay but before I could arrange the payment they were sold out. They looked good too, I'll snatch one up next time he has some made for sale.

[finpro]

A favorite pocket holster for my PM9 is the same Belt-slide holster that Kahr sells at http://www.kahr.com/P380-Holsters/Kahr-Belt-Slide-Holster-Black-ACCPP036BLK.asp. This holster is widely-sold and, while it is marketed to wear at the belt line, with the clip removed, it makes a good pocket holster. It is open at the bottom, so the barrel falls to the bottom of the pocket. This allows it to work on shallower pockets like those found in some jeans. On a PM9, it is a loose, but stable, fit and, while the trigger guard is covered, it affords a good grip when drawing. With the loose fit and the extra width at the top it will stay in the pocket when the gun is drawn. Holding the holster in place with fingers when inserting into or withdrawing from the pocket together with the gun works well. The rounded corners make its outline like a wallet and it does not print very much. For a holster designed for another purpose, it works really well for pocket carry.
Another design to consider is the Recluse Holster, http://www.recluseholster.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=8&model_id=&osCsid=33501cc71bc06a000b980351109631cc11. I recommend the Two Sided (TS) model, which seems safer to me. This is a very well-made, though more expensive, holster.
Before I had one of these, I found a plan for making a pocket holster of a roughly similar design from a single piece of rawhide. I took it to a shoe repair shop and the owner made me one, which I still have and use for a Kel-Tec P3AT. The owner turned out to be an officer a local gun club who invited me to join and I am still a member 20 years later. He was quite a shooter and later went on to work for Wilson Combat.

[JD950]

Another design to consider is the Recluse Holster, http://www.recluseholster.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=8&model_id=&osCsid=33501cc71bc06a000b980351109631cc11. I recommend the Two Sided (TS) model, which seems safer to me. This is a very well-made, though more expensive, holster.
Before I had one of these, I found a plan for making a pocket holster of a roughly similar design from a single piece of rawhide. I took it to a shoe repair shop and the owner made me one, which I still have and use for a Kel-Tec P3AT. The owner turned out to be an officer a local gun club who invited me to join and I am still a member 20 years later. He was quite a shooter and later went on to work for Wilson Combat.

I might try the two-sided recluse one of these days, but for anyone considering the single sided version...After reading a bunch of glowing reviews, I got one to try for a .380 and found that the gun tends to flop out of the holster towards the leg and is then just loosely riding against that trigger bump. Perhaps if one wears tight pants it works better. For me, the holster never made it past testing at home with an unloaded gun and I would not even consider using it. It lives in the box of not-quite-right holsters many of us have. Others' experience may vary but mine will never be used and frankly, I have such misgivings about it that I can't even bring myself to try and sell it. I wish I had gotten the two-sided version to try instead.

[Bawanna]

I have a drawer of them not quite right holsters too. I think we all do.

[b4uqzme]

I have a drawer of them not quite right holsters too. I think we all do.

^^^ I like it when you buy a bunch of holsters just to find out the first one works best... :o

[Bawanna]

I can relate to that as well. Sometimes all it takes is a little tweaking to turn a drawer holster into a favorite.

I know that happened to me with IWB. I got a Garrett Silent Thunder and it just didn't ride right, into the drawer. Kept taking it out, too nice to stay in the drawer.
Played with the cant just a bit, tweaked the position on the belt just a bit and it's now a favorite, right up there with my Mernickle OWB.

I just ordered another Silent Thunder for full size 1911. Should be good to go. Not sure what the lead time is, wait.......wife texted that I got a package today, maybe its the holster. That would be cool.

[Lazareth]

"More for the drawer." Sounds like an addiction I'm suffering from. :p At some point I'm just going to have to settle on something. I am beginning to find that certain holsters I own work better for certain pairs of pants. Nice having multiple sized guns for that kind of thing as well.

I will try a Kydex holster of some sort before I pull the plug then divert holster money back to ammo acquisition if possible. haha

[Lazareth]

And...I'm back to my trusty Desantis. While I don't find it as comfortable sometimes as the others I own it offers the best trigger protection imo, and it's certainly thin enough.

The UTG felt a little too bulky so far but the trigger protection is good.

I managed to order a Kydex today. For me this will be my final holster showdown for quite sometime.. The Desantis is truly the one to beat for my overall needs and personal tastes up to this point. Let's see how the Kydex plays out for me. :popcorn:

[Lazareth]

Oh man, there ain't no going back now. Just got my new holster. Ordered from a seller on Ebay, jbowe12, phenomenal craftsmanship. Mine is actually Holstex material and man is it both slim as can be and tough, ultimate trigger protection. Will be ordering another for my LCP as soon as possible. I'll of course be keeping all of my other holsters for those occasions where they might be needed but on a regular basis I've finally found something I'm really satisfied with. YES!

[Kahrdon1977]

I have a CW45 that fits loosely in a Desantis holster I bought for a Ruger SR40c. It makes for easy removal from pants pocket and still holds gun securely.


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[Lazareth]

The Desantis is certainly one of my favorites, top of the shelf, and I know I'll still be using it from time to time. Even the Barsony nylon holster I had altered is comfy and good quality. I ought to get into the holster business and try to come up with something of my own. haha Pocket holsters specifically. :p

[Ed M]

The Desantis is certainly one of my favorites, top of the shelf, and I know I'll still be using it from time to time. Even the Barsony nylon holster I had altered is comfy and good quality. I ought to get into the holster business and try to come up with something of my own. haha Pocket holsters specifically. :p

Glad you like your new kydex. I've really been spoiled by the one for my CM9. I actually thought about making my own, as it's really easy and cheap to do. Think I need a bigger work bench. ;)

[KCAutoBob]

A year or so ago, I decided to stop struggling with an Uncle Mikes pocket holster and actually spend a bit more $$ on a pocket holster. After some bit of research and reviewing lots of user comments, I bought a Mika Pocket Holster, made by Robert Mika. I like it 'cause the price is okay, and it works. It's easy to draw the pistol (mine is a PM9), the pistol fits comfortably without any tightness that requires thumb press, and the holster's shape covers the trigger guard without taking away any access to the grip, which is small enough to begin with. He uses some sort of lightweight leather-like material for the body, which is belted with a 'grippy' material that leaves the holster in the pocket. Altogether, it holds and protects the pistol without being 'possessive'. My PM9 slides in, and out, without hesitation. I like mine, it's very comfortable, if you gatta carry a funny shaped lump of metal and polymer in your pocket. He also makes a IWB and a vest style holster.

I just found a video he posted on YouTube back on August 8th this year, where he explains a bit about his design.
In communicating with him when I bought my pocket holster, I discovered that he is a very nice guy. It was a pleasant and enjoyable experience.

[bamaman]

I have had good luck with the remora holster for my CM9

[Lazareth]

I'll take a closer look at both the Mika Pocket Holster and the Remora.

I'm still sold on the Kydex/Holstex so far though and my confidence with the trigger protection has been unrivaled up to this point. They are super thin and super strong with minimal printing, exactly what I was looking for all along.

jbowe12 on Ebay makes the best pocket holsters of them all imo and I've been completely satisfied.

[Dawgfan165]

Oh man, there ain't no going back now. Just got my new holster. Ordered from a seller on Ebay, jbowe12, phenomenal craftsmanship. Mine is actually Holstex material and man is it both slim as can be and tough, ultimate trigger protection. Will be ordering another for my LCP as soon as possible. I'll of course be keeping all of my other holsters for those occasions where they might be needed but on a regular basis I've finally found something I'm really satisfied with. YES!

Thx for the info on jbowe12. Ordered one of his pocket holsters for the CM9. Looks like a solid product with a 100% approval rate.

[bugs]

after seeing that C3 Carbon Kydex pocket holster, I had to try one for the CM9; glad I did !

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER

[Ed M]

after seeing that C3 Carbon Kydex pocket holster, I had to try one for the CM9; glad I did !

Glad you like it. I absolutely love mine! It's the perfect pocket holster, IMO. It even fits my old style PM9 and my MK9.

I can't think of anything that would improve this holster for pocket carry. I liked it so much I bought a kydex OWB for my CM9 from C3 as well. That one is sweet too!

Chris at C3 Tactical Solutions really gets all the little details right. He's the Mitch Rosen of kydex holsters.:cool:

[Lazareth]

Thx for the info on jbowe12. Ordered one of his pocket holsters for the CM9. Looks like a solid product with a 100% approval rate.

No problem at all, glad to be of help. Finding a pocket holster that really worked for me wound up becoming a much longer quest than I anticipated and when I finally discovered those it was like stumbling into El Dorado- the lost city of gold. haha

[drw]

I have multiple Kahr holsters at least 10. I like the Mica holster the best except in hot weather. The Jbowe12 kydex holsters are almost identical to the Alabama kydex holster. The Jbowe12 holsters have more detail than the Alabama holsters but the fit is much the same. I had Jbowel12 make me 4 different Kahr holsters and his turn around time is only a few days and not a 4 week wait like the Alabama holster. For IWB holster, for a PM9 or CM9, a Galco Royal guard for a Glock 26 fits my Kahr pistols perfect. In fact most of the holsters I have for a Glock 26 or 27 will fit the Kahr PM40 or CW9 pistols.

[Lazareth]

I prefer jbowe12's style and approach when compared to the Alabama Holsters version, and there is a difference for sure. Also like the price tag better. $25 bucks free shipping vs. $40 (betting there's a shipping charge too, but not sure). And like you pointed out drw, the crafting and shipping speed of jbowe12 is phenomenal.

It was so nice to finally find exactly what I was looking for in a pocket holster and wish I had stumbled across it years earlier.

[jonholl]

"Desantis Nemesis"

Do you folks with a Nemesis have any tips/tricks to keep the holster in the pocket when drawing? Mine keeps coming out (CM9 - cargo pants mostly)? I also have a Blackhawk that works fine, I probably should just get rid of the Nemesis.
Thanks.


Tried the silicone spray, better but not there yet.
Anyone try gluing some type of material to a pocket holster that keeps the holster in the pocket when drawing but allows removing it fairly easy? A velcro strip, etc.?
Thanks

[Ed M]

I've seen pocket holsters that have what appears to me to be kitchen drawer liner sewn on the outside to keep the holster in the pocket when drawing.

Might work....

https://www.amazon.com/Tact-Premium-Non-Adhesive-Non-Slip-12-Inches/dp/B001AH8PLI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1509537781&sr=8-4&keywords=kitchen+drawer+liner

[bugs]

jonholl, have you tried giving the pocket holster a little nudge with your thumb or social finger at the start of your draw stroke?

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER

[berettabone]

jonholl, have you tried giving the pocket holster a little nudge with your thumb or social finger at the start of your draw stroke?

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER Good answer.........................it's what I do with my Desantis Nemesis holster. When drawing, place your thumb on top of the edge closest side to your body and it comes out clean every time. Of course, if the situation arises and I have my left arm free, I just hold the holster in my pocket from the outside. It definitely comes out clean EVERY time. These are things that you have to practice. You can't expect miracles if you don't. Same as carrying under a jacket OWB, carrying inside the pants IWB, you have to practice the particular method of carry for it to be a smooth operation. If you don't, you're taking chances.

[jonholl]

jonholl, have you tried giving the pocket holster a little nudge with your thumb or social finger at the start of your draw stroke?

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER


Good idea, too many steps for this old guy :). What I'd actually prefer is a "loose fit" leather holster. I've got 1 for my Seecamp .32 & had 1 for a Walther PPK years ago. A friend's brother was a leather guy (had a shop) & he made both out of some scraps, smooth inside, rough outside. Both worked great (Seecamp still does) but the leather guy passed on a number years ago. No response from the other local leather folks, but they're in "yuppieville" so probably anti firearms.
Think I'll try the non-slide material recommended above.
Thanks for the replies.

[Ed M]

jonholl - you might want to check out this video. This is where I saw that non-slide material used on a holster. This guy makes holsters that may suit your preferences....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY9mcCcgpvs

[jonholl]

Thanks Ed, appreciated. I'll probably glue some non-slide on the Nemesis 1st (I like DIY), if that doesn't work I'll get a Mika.

[jonholl]

Stuck a few strips of non-skid on both sides of the Nemesis, works fine, holster stays in the pocket. Have to work the holster out of the pocket to remove but that's fine, if I'm removing the holster I'm through carrying a pistol.
Thanks for the suggestions, usually a work around :).