Things that make you go Hmmmm....

[yqtszhj]

So it was beautiful 70 degree day and I took a 1/2 day vacation to go to the range. Got there and the place was empty. Had it all to myself.

Fired 250 rounds through through SP-01 and it was flawless. Up to 500 rounds now and one can rapid fire a whole magazine at 10 yards and all of them stay on a paper plate. Excellent. No recoil to mention at all.

Then I think let me run a box through the P-01 since I've been carrying it. Well about 25 rounds in I had a true stovepipe. Never had that happen before in my whole life. Gun extracted the fired casing, picked up the next round and fed it most of the way in but the empty didn't eject all the way. Sweeped out the fired casing with my hand and continued problem free as the next round was chambered. That was about round number 1575 for the P-01. Granted it was target ammo (actually seemed a little on the hot end of the spectrum) but I had never had that happen before. Now I'm thinking to myself I have to test it some more. Got to put the P30sk back into the carry rotation now.

Things that make you go Hmmm....

[ltxi]

That's one of them things would make me go Crap, not Hmmm, and then worry me to death next lotta times I went to the grocery store.

[yqtszhj]

That's one of them things would make me go Crap, not Hmmm, and then worry me to death next lotta times I went to the grocery store.

Thank you. I no longer feel alone because that's exactly how I really felt.

[Ed M]

Who's to say the P30SK wouldn't malfunction? Anything made by man can fail.

Clearing the jam, and making good fast decisions are your best defense against this kind of thing.

Dust off the CW380. The old New York reload will soothe the nerves.

[yqtszhj]

Dust off the CW380. The old New York reload will soothe the nerves.
Its actually still working good. I'm happy with it so far.

[DJK11]

Must be story time this occurred a couple of years ago. I don't generally shoot the days carry gun during a range trip but after a few hundred rounds of 45 that little voice kept telling me to fire the PM9. What the heck I'll fire a mag of sd rounds. Three rounds in and no trigger, no reset, nothing. Dropped the slide and low and behold a broken trigger bar. So I packed up, discussed it with the gunsmith an he said "I told you the rental Kahrs brake trigger bars."

Kind of lucky it broke when it did.

[AIRret]

I never heard about the trigger bar issue.
Did the gunsmith say what round count the failure was likely to occur?

Thanks for the information.

[berettabone]

There is always a chance that you had a little limp wrist on that shot. You did say that you had fired 225 rds.

[Bawanna]

I've never heard of broken trigger bars either.

[yqtszhj]

There is always a chance that you had a little limp wrist on that shot. You did say that you had fired 225 rds.

I thought about that and it could be the case. Good news was the round in the empty that stovepiped hit its target so maybe I wouldn't have needed that next round immediately. ;)

[DJK11]

I can't find the thread where I posted a picture. Actually two trigger bars broke.

[Bawanna]

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?30867-CM9-going-back-to-Kahr/page3&highlight=broken+trigger+bar

Here's one. Doesn't mention on the return to kahr that it was broke, only that it was replaced. Could have been broke.

Funny we haven't heard more of this.

[ltxi]

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?30867-CM9-going-back-to-Kahr/page3&highlight=broken+trigger+bar

Here's one. Doesn't mention on the return to kahr that it was broke, only that it was replaced. Could have been broke.

Funny we haven't heard more of this.

Well....that does it. I'm sellin' off all my Kahrs and buying more Glocks.

[DJK11]

Well, I found the picture of the trigger bar on the other computer. First time was four years ago, can't find the pict of the second time. I'll get it over to the tablet and post it. Kahr CS was not concerned about braking, just sent me a new bar.

[gb6491]

Well, I found the picture of the trigger bar on the other computer. First time was four years ago, can't find the pict of the second time. I'll get it over to the tablet and post it. Kahr CS was not concerned about braking, just sent me a new bar.
I could only find the one where you posted the bar broke at about 6000 rounds through your PM9: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?16355-PM9-at-6-000-rnds

There was mention of the bar being replaced in your PM45 because it was out of spec: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?26091-9k-through-the-PM45&p=330990#post330990

I have't seen or read of many instances of the Kahr trigger bars breaking so I'd certainly like to see the photo of the second bar if you find it.

Out of curiosity, I asked at the local range that rents Kahrs about broken trigger bars and they couldn't recall it happening in any of theirs. I bought a P380 (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?25541-A-used-P380-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-and-a-happy-ending) they had as a rental and while it had problems, the trigger bar was not one of them.

Regards,
Greg

[DJK11]

Greg, how did you find them. Yes that's the pict, the second bar broke at the same spot. The PM45 bar had worn a bevel with a bur on the top of the reset tap. I never had the stainless bar made, but did purchase a stainless trigger bar for my xdsc9 from springer precision. It's a work of art.

[yqtszhj]

Looks like it broke at a bend. I wonder if it had a small crack in the beginning from being stamped during manufacturing or something and it finally broke due to use?

[DJK11]

Yes both bars broke at the same bend. Gunsmith, RIP, that I spoke with at the store/ range said the bars he replaced broke at the same location. This store/ range is one of the largest S&W dealers in the midwest, not some small mom and pop operation. This year they have stopped stocking Kahrs, didn't ask why. A couple of employees do carry Kahrs, they like the TP series.