Old school Kahr pistols

[gb6491]

Well I guess it's appropriate....an older guy with older guns (as Kahrs go). I knew my K9 (AD00XX) was an early one, but after checking the serial number thread, I see my MK9 (GA09XX) is early production for that series. That makes both over 20 years old; I'm calling that old school as far as Kahrs go
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gifHere be the geezers:
https://s9.postimg.org/y1l79oq67/3a_1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
K9's serial number changed to protect the innocent :)

Let's see yours!

Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Both may be old but both look far from wore out. That MK almost looks NIB.

[berettabone]

I don't know if it's considered old school yet, but approaching 17 yrs. old.

[Alfonse]

I'm not sure how old this one is, but it is the old style dovetail. It wasn't getting any love on an auction, and the frame has been cerakoted.

https://lakelinellc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/K9-Two-Tone-R-side-and-muzzle.jpg

[ripley16]

gb6491, there seems to be a sheen on your K9, especially the grip screws. Is your gun one of the few that were coated with the "Black T" finish? That would then be a very early carbon steel black model. Mine is an early Black K9 but in the later very matte finish.

[gb6491]

gb6491, there seems to be a sheen on your K9, especially the grip screws. Is your gun one of the few that were coated with the "Black T" finish? That would then be a very early carbon steel black model. Mine is an early Black K9 but in the later very matte finish.
It has a worn black oxide finish that has been touched up with cold blue and steel wool. I think that, some oil that is on it, and the lighting probably account for the sheen.
Regards,
Greg

[dandyrandy]

I just posted a thread about an old K series K40 of mine. It shoots great and is of very good quality but thats not what the thread is about. It was about my issue with the new Kahr guns. Im starting to think that the old K pistols were better than the new ones??? Cant say for sure though...

[johnh]

I so need an MK9. I keep getting other things, but that needs to happen. My K9 is still my favorite Kahr.

New versus old, I honestly have had zero issues with any of the newer Kahrs. I have an S9 and an ST9, both of which run like a top straight out of the box. Yes, I know the folks there but they do not hand-pick anything I buy.

[jg rider]

Well we have 2 K9 Elites both purchased in early 1998. So that should make them about 20 yrs. old. Both have never fumbled yet with anything we feed them.

[gb6491]

Nice work on those front straps http://www.pic4ever.com/images/13.gif

[Bobshouse]

Luckily for all of you I was just getting ready to open a Kahr Rest Home. Send your Kahr pistol to us, along with an initial 340.00 processing fee and we will keep your loved one in our facility. They will receive top notch care from our professionals! Should they worsen with age, you will be notified before we place them into our Increased Care Facility (ICF) and airlifted back to Kahr Arms. Additional funds could be needed at that time.

[jg rider]

Luckily for all of you I was just getting ready to open a Kahr Rest Home. Send your Kahr pistol to us, along with an initial 340.00 processing fee and we will keep your loved one in our facility. They will receive top notch care from our professionals! Should they worsen with age, you will be notified before we place them into our Increased Care Facility (ICF) and airlifted back to Kahr Arms. Additional funds could be needed at that time.

Hey Bob,
I'll keep that in mind. Question : Will they be allowed visitors ?

[mattallamerican]

can you still get parts for the older ones

[jg rider]

Nice work on those front straps http://www.pic4ever.com/images/13.gif

Thanks Greg.
But they are getting long in the tooth,and like yours are showing their age with wrinkles on their grip screws and other places.

[jg rider]

can you still get parts for the older ones

I believe all parts are interchangeable except for the rear sights. Old style dovetail sight cuts were from the start of Kahrs to some time before 1998. I say this because my oldest Kahrs were made around 1998 and have the new rear sight dovetail cuts

[Bawanna]

I believe and Greg can confirm or deny since I know he's been there. There's an old style and a new style trigger bar and spring.

It's shaped a little differently. I don't believe the old style is still available but I think it can be upgraded to the new style.

The new style spring is not compatible with the old style trigger bar. Probably really not an issue unless the it breaks.

Sure wish I could checker metal, I've often thought about trying to do it, just haven't built up my courage enough to try it even on a cut off grip frame.
Maybe one of these days if there are enough days.

[jg rider]

I believe and Greg can confirm or deny since I know he's been there. There's an old style and a new style trigger bar and spring.

It's shaped a little differently. I don't believe the old style is still available but I think it can be upgraded to the new style.

The new style spring is not compatible with the old style trigger bar. Probably really not an issue unless the it breaks.


Shucks,
Now I feel foolish. :blushing:

[gb6491]

Thanks Greg.
But they are getting long in the tooth,and like yours are showing their age with wrinkles on their grip screws and other places.
Checkered and stippled screws:cool: You the man JGhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/d2.gif


I have been wrestling with the notion of refinishing the K9, but you've shamed me into at least fixing screws now.
This is the worst of the four; I'll peen it to move the metal back in place. That will limit the filing need to fix the slot.
https://s9.postimg.org/u2wjct5y7/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

In the drill, I'll spin it under a diamond hone and some fine sand paper to give it a somewhat uniform appearance. I'm looking for something here that will look appropriate to the rest of the pistol.
https://s9.postimg.org/48mqmwnwv/s2_copy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I'm just going to hit them with some cold blue:
https://s9.postimg.org/dgez3ppv3/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

All four:
https://s9.postimg.org/t3atubdfz/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Regards,
Greg

[jg rider]

Checkered and stippled screws:cool: You the man JGhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/d2.gif


I have been wrestling with the notion of refinishing the K9, but you've shamed me into at least fixing screws now.
This is the worst of the four; I'll peen it to move the metal back in place. That will limit the filing need to fix the slot.
https://s9.postimg.org/u2wjct5y7/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

In the drill, I'll spin it under a diamond hone and some fine sand paper to give it a somewhat uniform appearance. I'm looking for something here that will look appropriate to the rest of the pistol.
https://s9.postimg.org/48mqmwnwv/s2_copy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I'm just going to hit them with some cold blue:
https://s9.postimg.org/dgez3ppv3/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

All four:
https://s9.postimg.org/t3atubdfz/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Regards,
Greg


Oh..........!
You have a lathe just like mine.
You do good work
As bawanna would say "Great minds think alike"

[Bawanna]

Both you guys got major talent. I never thought to use my drill, I mean lathe for fixing screws. I just hit them with a file and sand paper, fix the slot and hit the cold blue. Course mine naturally don't turn out near as nice as yours.
Next bum screws I encounter (I have a major fetish for the right screw driver bit, bought a 56 bit set from Brownells and within a week had to modify one to fit) I'll break out my drill, er lathe and do like you fellas do.

Those checkered JG screws are sweet. Its the little things like that which separates the pros from the wannabe's.

Sincerely
bawanna wannabe

[Bawanna]

Shucks,
Now I feel foolish. :blushing:

Don't feel foolish, only reason I knew this is it was brought up before when Greg was fixing I believe a friends gun.
If memory serves Kahr offered to upgrade it but he got the parts and did it himself. I could be wrong on the upgrade offer.

Now we'll see if I need that Ahlzeimers test again or not. Fingers crossed.

[gb6491]

I believe and Greg can confirm or deny since I know he's been there. There's an old style and a new style trigger bar and spring.

It's shaped a little differently. I don't believe the old style is still available but I think it can be upgraded to the new style.

The new style spring is not compatible with the old style trigger bar. Probably really not an issue unless the it breaks.

Sure wish I could checker metal, I've often thought about trying to do it, just haven't built up my courage enough to try it even on a cut off grip frame.
Maybe one of these days if there are enough days.
Bawanna is correct, there are at least two different style trigger bars and trigger bar springs.
The bottom portion of this photo shows the trigger bar of my older K9 in comparison to the current version of the bar.
http://i47.tinypic.com/154zmsw.jpg
In the upper portion of that photo, I've shown in yellow (right side) where I think the frame needs to be modified to work with the current trigger bar.
Kahr used to list the service to do the modification, but i don't know where it is at on the new website.

Here's hangdog's photo of the old style bar and spring:
http://i41.tinypic.com/b6sttv.jpg

As far as I know the old style spring is not available anymore. The new style spring can be bent to function reliably in it's stead. Here's one in my K9:
https://s9.postimg.org/9b8nvjwwf/image.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Also, you may note that there is a block installed in the rear of the frame in hangdog's photo. My K9 has this as well.
http://i47.tinypic.com/wckfn5.jpg

The ejector is part of this block; definitely different from what is used currently. I've not contacted Kahr to see if any of these are available, but I'm guessing this is another hard to find part:
http://i49.tinypic.com/mucsno.jpg

I can't remember if the cocking cam is different enough that they will or won't interchange.



Don't feel foolish, only reason I knew this is it was brought up before when Greg was fixing I believe a friends gun.

If memory serves Kahr offered to upgrade it but he got the parts and did it himself. I could be wrong on the upgrade offer.

Now we'll see if I need that Alzheimer test again or not. Fingers crossed.
You are spot on Bawanna. It was a friend's gun at the time, but it's back in my possession now :)
Kahr did offer to do an upgrade (I think that was through your auspice, but hey, I might need that Alzheimer test thingy myself).

Regards,
Greg

[jg rider]

So if I'm correct Kahr pistols came out in 1995 and by early or sooner 1998 they changed the design ?

[gb6491]

So if I'm correct Kahr pistols came out in 1995 and by early or sooner 1998 they changed the design ?
It would seem so sir.
Somewhere along the line, they also dropped their excellent steel magazine follower.
Regards,
Greg