Reloading for PM9

[TheJerk]

Does shooting reloaded ammo in the PM9 invalidate the warranty?

[Bawanna]

Shooting reloaded ammunition in just about any manufactures gun supposedly voids the warranty. I reload for everything and have never had a problem with repairs or warranty work.
Be safe, be sane and who's gonna know?

[Dietrich]

If you had a problem as a result of reloading and firing hot loads that exceeded specs then there may be a warranty issue.But just using reloads for target practice at normal pressures shouldn`t present any problems at all.

[f44life]

ill give you a good story to pull you away from shooting reloads....a guy with a xd came up to the counter when i was checking in at the gun range....he is like my gun wont shoot? it chambers a round but it wont fire....So the guy behind the counter looks at it and he sees a bullet crammed jammed sideways in the barrell...The guy behind the counter said your lucky the next round didnt chamber...what rounds you usuing? the guy said reloads

Go to walmart and buy the 10$ box of federel ammo 50rds...screw reloads

[joje]

i'd agree with staying away from semi-commercial reloads, aka gunshow specials, but there is nothing unsafe about reloading for yourself if you are a reasonably responsible individual.

including setup, cleaning, sorting and final inspection one can produce 50 premium rounds in less than 10 minutes, for a cost of $5 or so. in the long run i find it hard to justify paying double for the wallyword econoloads.

[Bawanna]

I can't load 50 in 10 minutes but I agree with joje. I also have a rule that I share with all new shooters I encounter. Never ever ever shoot anyone elses reloads, period. I usually say this right before I hand them a box of my reloads to try. Ironically they usually take the box. The best ammo is free ammo but for me reloads will have to do.
Be safe, pay attention to detail, stay sober, Deitrich I'm told stays nekkid and all will be good.
I am looking hard finally at a Hornady Lock N Load progressive so that 50 in 10 minutes might be a reality soon I hope.

[Tilos]

First of all I don't shoot reloads thru my Kahr(s):)

But if I did, I would use a fast powder like Bullseye or W231 because of the short barrel and the lighter bullets (115 or 124) of the FMJ type for ease of feeding.

I do this for my OTHER short barrel 9mm guns...but of course, not the Kahr(s).

I would never buy re-loads (ie gunshows, etc.) and only shoot my own.

Just sayin'
Tilos

[joje]

go get one bawanna! i was in the same situation a few years ago and getting a progressive press (although not as nice one as the one you want) was the best thing i ever did.

[Bawanna]

I should have done it years ago. I have 3 Rockchuckers on a bench to walk thru the process but it's still slow. I was set to go Dillon but my research led me to the Hornady. It sounds like a real cadillac of a press, real smooth, precise and fast, as well as a very reasonable price.
The big issue is affording components to feed the monster and the 3 hungry shooters in my house.

[DKD]

I'm with you BAWANNA, ther is absolutley nothing wrong with relaods. I have been reloading probbaly longer than many have been alive at this forum or any other forum on the web. Not only are my reloads totally reliable, they are also very accurate. In my rifles I haven't bought ammo for over 35 years and have taken quite a few wall hangers along with my wifes & brother in laws trophy Mullie & Elk & Deer trophies. I guess I can be called the family and friend local armorer.

[Bawanna]

It seems to add to the satisfaction when you roll your own too.
Many of my guns have never had factory store bought ammo shot thru them. Any gun that I carry has store bought stuff but usually gets a steady diet of my home growns too. I've never bothered with reloading 9's, don't shoot em enough to bother. The press handle goes up and down alot on 45's though.

[f44life]

i didnt say there is nothing wrong with reloads, but 9mm ammo is cheap and not worth the hassle to me to reload them...i would have to enjoy doing it to do it

[Dietrich]

There`s nothing wrong with reloading nekkid.

[Bawanna]

I apologize and meant no criticism in your reloading practices. I suspect it would be a good safety measure as well with less static electricity caused by the various types of material normally used for folks that wear clothing from time to time.
I'm sorry I violated your sensitive nature and perhaps I'll reload a few boxes this weekend in my birthday suit in your honor. If anyone questions my actions I'll have them contact you.

Yours in nekkidness
bawanna

[TheJerk]

Since shooting reloads means different things to different people, what I was talking about was stuff I reload for myself. I shoot mild loads through my M&P9 and the components cost me about half of the cost of the cheap Walmart ammo. For shooting out of a barrel with polygonal rifling, I would use jacketed bullets instead of the plated bullets I currently use. And even though there are many things that I do without clothing, reloading is not one of them.

[Bawanna]

Since shooting reloads means different things to different people, what I was talking about was stuff I reload for myself. I shoot mild loads through my M&P9 and the components cost me about half of the cost of the cheap Walmart ammo. For shooting out of a barrel with polygonal rifling, I would use jacketed bullets instead of the plated bullets I currently use. And even though there are many things that I do without clothing, reloading is not one of them.

Thats pretty much what I do. Even the Wally World ammo seems expensive to me. I use the plated bullets all the time except for my 45 Long Colts and now that the ranges around here are no longer allowing lead I guess I'll be using plated in those as well.
I guess reloading nekkid is an acquired taste. Not one that I've acquired yet but perhaps I lack a sense of adventure.

[jfrey]

Over the past several years that I have been reloading I have shot thousands of my loads through all my pistols with no problems. I even shoot them through my CW9. I can load 'em for about $12.00/hundred and that sure beats Wally World price. I personally went the Dillon direction and haven't been sorry.

Surprizingly, the only pistol that won't chamber my loads is my Glock. So much for Glock perfection. The rest of my pistols eat 'em like candy.

[Tilos]

Not to be too philosophical here:

Some are reloaders who shoot, some are shooters who reload...and some are both

Just sayin'
Tilos

[Jeremiah/Az]

I use an RCBS Rockchuker. Yes, it is slow, but I like to check & double check everything. Been reloadin' since 1960 & haven't blowed me up yet! LOL! I hope to continue that trend.

[jlottmc]

There`s nothing wrong with reloading nekkid.

Just don't cast nekkid...:boink:

[Bawanna]

I use an RCBS Rockchuker. Yes, it is slow, but I like to check & double check everything. Been reloadin' since 1960 & haven't blowed me up yet! LOL! I hope to continue that trend.

Thats the one thing that make me skeptical about the progressive. I check and double check all during the process too. The Hornady is suppose to still allow me to do that. It will no doubt slow the speed down some but I'm not anxious to get blowed up just yet either.

[TheJerk]

If nothing else you should be more careful with a progressive press. I've got a Dillon 550B and I like it because everything stays put until I advance the shellplate so I know exactly what's going on. I look to make sure the powder drops and weigh a charge every now and then. It's never thrown a bad charge. One advantage the LNL will give you is an extra die station. That will allow you to run a powder check die and check every charge automatically. I load at a very moderate pace because the machine makes it possible to screw up a lot of ammo quickly. Pulling bullets really slows the process.

[jfrey]

I like the Dillon Square Deal B because once the powder is dropped, the round automatically advances to the bullet seating station. This allows me to visually inspect evey round to be sure it has powder in it before I seat the bullet. At this point I can pull the case if there is any doubt, weigh the charge, refill the case and continue loading. I also use Unique powder which is bulky and if you double charge a case, you will definately notice the mess created. There are a few little things you can do which will make loading on a progressive just as safe and accurate as using a single stage press.

[Dietrich]

I reload with a Dillon 550.I have placed LED reading lamps at crucial locations so that I can actually see the powder in the brass and also at what quantity.That makes me much more at ease about my reloads.I also stop and weigh the charges being dropped about 3 times per 50 rounds as well as checking the OAL.When I reload I don`t try for speed.To me it`s for fun and and a quality end product.Not to mention I`m a skinflint.

[TheJerk]

I bought the 550 over the Square Deal because I thought I might reload 5.56 with it but I haven't gotten around to that yet. For the past few years I would have been just fine with the Square Deal (loading only 9mm) and probably would be for the next couple. The nice thing about the Dillon is that it's like a good firearm--people will buy a used one for almost the same price as a new press. If you're looking for a Hornady though, the LNLAP is on sale this month at Midway USA.

[Bawanna]

I bought the 550 over the Square Deal because I thought I might reload 5.56 with it but I haven't gotten around to that yet. For the past few years I would have been just fine with the Square Deal (loading only 9mm) and probably would be for the next couple. The nice thing about the Dillon is that it's like a good firearm--people will buy a used one for almost the same price as a new press. If you're looking for a Hornady though, the LNLAP is on sale this month at Midway USA.

And I think the 500 free bullet deal is on too. I think I've convinced myself to go with the LNL, should do anything I ever want to do. I don't look forward to accumulating numerous shell plates and all that stuff, but I suspect 95% of the brass going thru it will be 45acp or 45 colt, so might not switch things often. I can use my trusty rockchuckers for everything else. I load one at a time on rifle. Don't shoot much 223 so I'm not in a quantity need there. When I get my scout squad M1 might need bigger piles of 308 but thats doable too.
Like I said before I was all set to go Dillon 550 without question and I think it's a great press and I hear their CS is outstanding and of course Ill never give up my Blue Press, I think they even have reloading stuff in there with the angels.

[Tilos]

Go here to see all the progressives in action:

Ultimate Reloader (http://ultimatereloader.com/)

Just sayin'
Tilos

[jfrey]

Blue or red koolaid, don't really matter. You can crank out a bunch of good ammo with either one. Being careful prevents problems and lets us all shoot a lot more than we could otherwise. That's what it's all about anyway.

[Bawanna]

Well I gave in to lust and ordered a Hornady Lock N Load on sale from Midway. They got the 500 free Hornaday bullets deal going too and the wife was in a good mood so it all just worked out fine.
Have to wait for the press to get stuff to send in for the free bullets but I got plenty to play with while I wait.
Midway also has the Rainier jacketed or plated bullets I been using on sale and I think my boy's gonna chip in for a 1000. All good.
I'll post a report when I get it up and running. Tiny and the fleet of 45's should be well fed in a week or so I hope. Then we'll work on the rest.