round(s) fall out of mag while in holder (CM9)

[MS_CM9]

I have a CM9, which I fully broke in, polished, etc. upon purchase. I installed Lakeline followers as well a while back when I was breaking it in and did have a few feed issues. The feed problem went away. The gun operates perfectly now.

The prob I have is with rounds falling out of the Kahr extended mag (8 rd).

A round (or two) will usually fall out when the mag is in a mag holder clipped to my belt. The holder is your basic denier or similar material. What is happening. I think. is that due to the nose of the top round pointing at a pretty high angle (by design), when the mag is stored 'round side down' in the holder (and the mag is secured by a Velcro strap - I have tried to adjust the 'tension' of the Velcro from light to heavy and no difference in the problem.), a round or two will work its way out over a short period of time. Every time I go to clip the mag on my belt, I need to load the round(s) back into the mag. Not good if I would ever need that extra round.

Any thoughts on possible resolutions, short of staying away from extended mags or going with non-Kahr mags? I suppose I could also go back to the plastic follower for this 8 rd mag, but would then potentially have a bigger issue if the feed issue re-materialized.

Added: My EDC SD ammo in the mag is Hornady Critical Def 115 gram. I don;t know if my practice ammo (Federal HST, Blazer Brass ball, etc. would have the same issue).

Hank

[Bawanna]

There's a post around here that deals with that, you need to tweak the feed lips in just a tad and that will cure it.

I'll try to find the thread, has some good pictures, hoping it wasn't before photobucket jumped the track.

[Bawanna]

Thread is eluding me for some reason. I have to act like I'm working for a bit but the search will continue.

Anybody else remember that? Somebody made a nifty little tool for doing it. Jg, can't remember that part.

[MS_CM9]

Thnx, Bawana. If you find it, great.

Meantime, I'll get the digital calipers out and measure the lip openings on the 'bad' and the 'good' mags and see what the difference is.

[Ed M]

Pretty impressive memory, Bawanna.

See the last post in this thread.
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?11430-Kahr-PM9-mag-issue/page3&highlight=adjusting+mag+feed+lips

As you feared, it was indeed before Photobucket went South. Maybe jg can help with this....

[Bawanna]

Well by golly I even got the inventor right. I'm canceling that ahlzeimers test once again, forget where I had it scheduled anyhow.

Sadly the photos are gone, it was kind of a simple but very nifty little tool JG made up to tweak the feed lips.

I think Greg has a magic way of seeing those lost photobucket pictures, I got that saved how to do that someplace too, iffen I can find it.

Like you say, maybe JG can bail us out on this one.

I'll call him.

Earth to JGRider, earth to JGRider, come in, you got your ears on? Mork calling Austin, come in your immenseness.

That out to do it, I can see the satellites tossing messages back and forth as I keyboard.

[DJK11]

Just had my Alzheimer's test but I'll take a wack at it. Was the tool a small flat bar stock with a thin slot cut to bend the edge of the top lip inward? Kind of like a hacksaw cut.

[Bawanna]

That's the one. Actually had two slots one thinner than the other.

Simple but a fine idea and good way of doing it.

[DJK11]

Sh&$ two slots. I told the doctor he was wrong, hope he doesn't read this.

[Bawanna]

Now the first picture of the High Standard went away with the usual photobucket clock.

I can still see the bike picture and the new one wrenching.

[Bawanna]

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN7337_zpsxk0lmefu.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN7337_zpsxk0lmefu.jpg.html)

From photobucket. Wonder if it will last. I can see it.

[jg rider]

Jg rider to Earth, Come back. Got your request and:
Here's the pics. But ! The rounds can still sip out. The mag pouch I use is a Don Hume. The rounded bottom one worked great to keep the rounds in place. Then they changed the design to a square bottom. What I did with that one is wet it and then form it to a round bottom.

I hope this helps

Bawanna, you and I discussed this before because this tool was to adjust the feed lips on my Hi-Standard pistol mags

[Bawanna]

Excellent JG, you came through for us with flying colors.

I'm trying to think of something good I can remember tomorrow other than its Saturday and I don't have to work. That's good to remember I guess.

[jg rider]

Excellent JG, you came through for us with flying colors.

I'm trying to think of something good I can remember tomorrow other than its Saturday and I don't have to work. That's good to remember I guess.

Ah shucks ! I'm blushing

[Bawanna]

Jg rider to Earth, Come back. Got your request and:
Here's the pics. But ! The rounds can still sip out. The mag pouch I use is a Don Hume. The rounded bottom one worked great to keep the rounds in place. Then they changed the design to a square bottom. What I did with that one is wet it and then form it to a round bottom.

I hope this helps

Bawanna, you and I discussed this before because this tool was to adjust the feed lips on my Hi-Standard pistol mags

Aw damn! I got the inventor and the tool right but your right, we was talking High Standard. (I think). Thought I was still sharp as a ball peen hammer, now this. Dang it.

[jg rider]

There's a post around here that deals with that, you need to tweak the feed lips in just a tad and that will cure it.

I'll try to find the thread, has some good pictures, hoping it wasn't before photobucket jumped the track.


bawanna,

This is a test. Using a Photo Bucket photo.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/High%20Standard/HighStandard01.jpg

Yessssss. I can see it.And so can anyone that uses Fire Fox browser



(http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/High%20Standard/HighStandard01.jpg.html)

[Bawanna]

I can see it too and I'm not using Firefox. My vision has not been in question (yet), it's the memory thing I think.

Now I have to wonder how you managed to make a photobucket picture work since they got into the black mail business.

Still have a ton of pictures to transfer someplace good.

[jg rider]

I turnd off the add on. Can you see this ?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Harley/0208--8-24BearToothHiway0042.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Harley/0208--8-24BearToothHiway0042.jpg.html)

[Bawanna]

Yes, you got a range off your back porch and you ride a Harley too? Man oh man, I'm not living right.

[jg rider]

Yes, you got a range off your back porch and you ride a Harley too? Man oh man, I'm not living right.


Can you go to P.B. and try to post a pic from there to here ?

And no ! I don't have a Harley any longer or horses since I had my knee replaced. I'm being petty, I realize this isn't the worse there is for some.

[jg rider]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Harley/0308--8-23LittleBigHornLooseLinkage001.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/jgriders/media/Harley/0308--8-23LittleBigHornLooseLinkage001.jpg.html)

I just did this with I.E. with no add on

[jg rider]

Dam it doesn't last

From the add on site

"This used to work, however it does not anymore. I would suspect that Photobucket has modified their code to stop this fix, which is quite unfortunate. I would hope that there's a way to update this to bypass their ridiculous paywall, but this would require pretty diligent updates to keep ahead of PB's patching."

[MS_CM9]

The pic of the tool is great. Thanks!

[gb6491]

Dam it doesn't last

From the add on site

"This used to work, however it does not anymore. I would suspect that Photobucket has modified their code to stop this fix, which is quite unfortunate. I would hope that there's a way to update this to bypass their ridiculous paywall, but this would require pretty diligent updates to keep ahead of PB's patching."
I'm using this Firefox add-on, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-fixer/?src=api , and I can still see the photos of the High Standards you and Bawanna posted. Likewise, the two motorcycle photos....is that prayer or repair in the Little Bighorn shot?;):)
Regards,
Greg

[jg rider]

I'm using this Firefox add-on, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-fixer/?src=api , and I can still see the photos of the High Standards you and Bawanna posted. Likewise, the two motorcycle photos....is that prayer or repair in the Little Bighorn shot?;):)
Regards,
Greg

Good morning Greg,
The pics stayed up for several hours and then went away.

As far as the the bending the knee. It was for repairs. I lost the screw on one end of the shifter linkage. I as able to modify something to work.
That was a trip that started from OR. (home ) thru Nevada, around up and around thru Utah, south into Arizona, through Monument Valley, into Canyon de Chelly, Four Corners, north into Colorado where I was yodeling and singing The Sound of music, riding through those mountain meadows. Then into Wyoming to the Dakotas, then into Montana, that's where the breakdown happened.

Now to show my stupidity:
Going back south into Wyoming heading for the Yellow Stone. We were traveling down the Bear Tooth Highway, my partner goes into a turn and slows down then takes off. There was a bear cub crossing the road who stopped on the opposite slope . I see it and decide to stop and snap a picture of it. I start to get off the bike when little light bulb goes off in my head, DUH ! So I didn't snap the picture.

So from there we went through the Yellow Stone, back up into Montana, down the LoLo Pass into Idaho and home.

That as the last motorcycle trip I took before having my Knee replaced

In mid April, from 1998 till the knee replacement the wife and I would ride down to a yearly motorcycle rally in Laughlin Nevada (Laughlin River Run). Traveling up through Yosemite California. 9200' elev. Then down to and across Death Valley into Nevada. After the rally we'd travel through Arizona, wife has relatives in AZ. then into New Mexico, then into Texas.

There's a route coming out of Texas, I think it's route #9 that runs west along the U.S. Mexico border into Columbus N.M that I always wanted to ride on. But I was always warned away from it. And the wife was never gonna go with me.

Funny think about Texan gun mentality. Once I stopped to ask a State cop for directions to that route. First words out of his mouth was to ask me if I was carrying. I told him I wasn't a resident and couldn't legally carry in Texas. He offered two words of advise. If I was going to travel that route I better be carrying and don't stop for anything. The other advise was not to go there.

Oh well I'm rambling on. Time to shut down and just reminisce in my mind.

[gb6491]

Keep rambling on sir! I'm enjoying the read and the photos:)

[jg rider]

Thanks for the encouragement Greg.
Here's some places that may interest you, or you may have been here already.

When my buddy George and I started this trip which was to be my riding swan song before having my knee replaced. We meandered around Nevada and stopped off in a little town called Goldfield. That big building in the background in the past was a hotel, and was a topic on a TV show as being haunted
In it's hay day some of the houses were made from whiskey bottles mortised in as walls.

We got permission to go into the court house and check out a court room.

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https://s6.postimg.org/436ble0oh/IMG_0038.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/eq04qt8tp/)

https://s6.postimg.org/x6ujhiegh/PR097910973136.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5w989lbjh/)

https://s6.postimg.org/5w989kw41/PR097910973137.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/6ls0lxwnh/)

https://s6.postimg.org/w4kcyz3cx/PR09791097359.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/auwqo4n25/)

https://s6.postimg.org/obtp7053l/PR09791097361.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/nz2b0tmtp/)

[jg rider]

The other thing of interest to you may be Canyon De-Challe AZ. if you haven't been there. The Indians there were so free living that even the live stock were just roaming around free.


https://s6.postimg.org/5w989oja9/IMG_0096.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/w4kcz23dp/)

https://s6.postimg.org/vrsysvstt/IMG_0090.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/gvuflahf1/)

https://s6.postimg.org/8qcdn6yc1/DSC00058.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/zbewir0p9/)

https://s6.postimg.org/5jhu3jj0x/DSC00059.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/l4z5nhuz1/)

https://s6.postimg.org/vf1kmqskh/DSC00060.jpg

https://s6.postimg.org/iaw0a1ddd/DSC00061.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/mk0qc83rx/)

[Bawanna]

That's where I need to be. Down in that canyon, good back stop any direction, no neighbors, noise wouldn't bother nobody.

Have to wonder about flash floods I reckon.

[jg rider]

That's where I need to be. Down in that canyon, good back stop any direction, no neighbors, noise wouldn't bother nobody.

Have to wonder about flash floods I reckon.

WE tried to find a way down there because there were people living there.

[gb6491]

Wow, thanks for the excellent photos JG!

It's been a good ten years since I've been to Canyon de Chelly. We went down on the trail near the White House Ruin.
https://s9.postimg.org/6hjr6dnfj/dec1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://s9.postimg.org/qc5ssixi7/dec.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
My buddies ahead of me on the trail down:
https://s9.postimg.org/qox6yqan3/dec2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://s9.postimg.org/3nglt65wf/dec5.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://s9.postimg.org/8yvidpzn3/dec6.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Wow, looks like it's wheelchair accessible. Maybe a few dramamine to be on the safe side.

That's me right there. Imagine water is questionable but there must be some down there.

I always preferred the high ground but them canyons look pretty durn nice to me. Iffen the wife don't like it I can be a hermit.

[jg rider]

Wow ! So that's what it looks like from ground level. We noticed what looked like a road down there with a house. We couldn't fid a way to ride down there