View Full Version : Having Trouble Finding Rear Sights For K9 HELP!
BirdsThaWord
06-23-2018, 07:56 PM
Hi all! I am going nuts trying to get proper sights for my K9. The previous owner had replaced the sights a long time ago with what I think were Trijicon night sights. I thinks that as there is some worn, barely legible white writing on the rear sight sides, which is typical of Trijicons I’ve seen. Anyway, I first ordered Williams Fire Sights off of a Fleabay vendor, as I really want fiber optic sights (gun to be a range queen, not gonna carry). When I got them, the front sight fit great, pushed on tight and is soooo bright. The rear sight though, not so much. In the first attached pic I am holding the K9 up so you can see the spaces all around it and you can see how theres no such a loctite that would take up that much slack. So...I found on Dawson Precisions website an explanation of “old” style slide cuts (wider based dovetail cut/no dimple) vs. “new”, slimmer style cuts. Looking back at where I ordered the Fire sights, sure enough they are listed for the newer style slide cut/dimpled slide. So I ordered an older style rear sight from Optics Planet. This one was by Mepro, and was a night sight (not what I want), but was the only one I could find online for the older style (pre 2004) slide cut, other than stock Kahr “i” sights. Well in the second picture attached, you’ll see me holding the K9 upside down and again, the Mepro sight is a no go as well. Does anyone have any idea what’s going on here? Apparently neither old nor new style aftermarket sights available fit my slide, but again the previous owner had aftermarket sights installed!?!? Anyone know of any fiber optic sights that might fit (or worse case some night sights), or is my slide a bastard slide?
BirdsThaWord
06-23-2018, 08:02 PM
Dawson’s explanation pic:
gb6491
06-23-2018, 10:17 PM
Hi all! I am going nuts trying to get proper sights for my K9. The previous owner had replaced the sights a long time ago with what I think were Trijicon night sights. I thinks that as there is some worn, barely legible white writing on the rear sight sides, which is typical of Trijicons I’ve seen. Anyway, I first ordered Williams Fire Sights off of a Fleabay vendor, as I really want fiber optic sights (gun to be a range queen, not gonna carry). When I got them, the front sight fit great, pushed on tight and is soooo bright. The rear sight though, not so much. In the first attached pic I am holding the K9 up so you can see the spaces all around it and you can see how theres no such a loctite that would take up that much slack. So...I found on Dawson Precisions website an explanation of “old” style slide cuts (wider based dovetail cut/no dimple) vs. “new”, slimmer style cuts. Looking back at where I ordered the Fire sights, sure enough they are listed for the newer style slide cut/dimpled slide. So I ordered an older style rear sight from Optics Planet. This one was by Mepro, and was a night sight (not what I want), but was the only one I could find online for the older style (pre 2004) slide cut, other than stock Kahr “i” sights. Well in the second picture attached, you’ll see me holding the K9 upside down and again, the Mepro sight is a no go as well. Does anyone have any idea what’s going on here? Apparently neither old nor new style aftermarket sights available fit my slide, but again the previous owner had aftermarket sights installed!?!? Anyone know of any fiber optic sights that might fit (or worse case some night sights), or is my slide a bastard slide?
Neither of those sights is for the old style dovetail.
Here's a shot of an aftermarket MMC sight I installed on my early production K9 with the old style dovetail:
https://s22.postimg.cc/4ujkyqukh/mmck9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Dawson lists FO sight sets for the old style dovetail: https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of-dawson-precision-old-dovetail-kahr-fixed-carry-sight-set-black-rear-fiber-optic-front-1/
Perhaps you might want to give them a try or send them the photos to verify the fit.
Regards,
Greg
BirdsThaWord
06-24-2018, 09:12 AM
As usual Greg, you come to the rescue! Thanks so much brother! I will look into both of the one’s you’ve suggested. Thanks again sooooo much!
Bawanna
06-24-2018, 09:54 AM
I love that MMC sight, have since I first seen it. But good luck finding one of those.
I'm sure they are out there and one might get lucky but I think they been out of production for quite a spell.
gb6491
06-24-2018, 11:43 AM
I love that MMC sight, have since I first seen it. But good luck finding one of those.
I'm sure they are out there and one might get lucky but I think they been out of production for quite a spell.
That is true boss. I posted that photo with the intent to show a sight correctly fitting the old style dovetail. I hope I didn't lead anyone astray.
Still, I found mine on Ebay so they can turn up. I'm always watching for a Millett Security Six sight leaf.
Regards,
Greg
Bawanna
06-24-2018, 12:35 PM
Yup, understood. I too didn't want Bird to think he could just order up an MMC and get more frustrated.
Now gang, lets all keep our eyes pealed for a Millet Security Six sight leaf for Greg.
We'll call it payback for all the times he's helped all of us out, me probably more so than all the others combined.
gb6491
06-24-2018, 01:25 PM
Yup, understood. I too didn't want Bird to think he could just order up an MMC and get more frustrated.
Now gang, lets all keep our eyes pealed for a Millet Security Six sight leaf for Greg.
We'll call it payback for all the times he's helped all of us out, me probably more so than all the others combined.
Thanks Colonel!
I feel my calling what I need a sight leaf is again misleading. I actually need the whole sight. I called it a leaf because the other Millett sights I have include a sight base. The Security Six sight does not, but it does have a leaf. I'm looking for the whole Security Six set up as shown below on my 4" Security Six:
https://s22.postimg.cc/cmf05po0h/20180624_110426_1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://s22.postimg.cc/g7avoy09t/20180624_110421_1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/udqmk6b4t/)
Sorry about that:o
Regards,
Greg
Bawanna
06-24-2018, 01:50 PM
Does that bolt on or you have to modify your frame a bit?
I can see why you want one, that's kind of sweet.
gb6491
06-24-2018, 01:59 PM
Does that bolt on or you have to modify your frame a bit?
I can see why you want one, that's kind of sweet.
No modifications, just drive out the pin in the top strap and turn the elevation screw out to remove the factory sight, then drop in the Millett and reverse the process.
I like the sight picture with it, think it looks good on the gun, and it's all steel :D
http://i45.tinypic.com/20fb0ad.jpg
Regards,
Greg
leftysixty
06-24-2018, 03:38 PM
There is a recessed area in your sight leaf that is meant to be painted, so, why not just paint it! Your photo clearly shows the groove that needs to be painted!
Old No7
06-25-2018, 03:34 PM
Here's my recent posting on adding "old style" Fiber-Optic sights from Dawson Precision on my old (2004) Kahr T9 (click for link) (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?31676-Dawson-Precision-quot-Old-Dovetail-quot-Fiber-Optic-Sights-for-Kahr-Added-to-My-T9) -- they're great, and fit really well!
Old No7
BirdsThaWord
06-26-2018, 06:47 AM
Here's my recent posting on adding "old style" Fiber-Optic sights from Dawson Precision on my old (2004) Kahr T9 (click for link) (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?31676-Dawson-Precision-quot-Old-Dovetail-quot-Fiber-Optic-Sights-for-Kahr-Added-to-My-T9) -- they're great, and fit really well!
Old No7
Funny you say that! After looking up the MMC guys, I did not see anything. As Greg described, they may now be a rare peice these days, so I went to Dawsons. I talked with them on the phone yesterday and will be mailing my sight in to ensure the fiber optic one they send will fit. As of right now, they only have an all black, combat style rear sight in stock. They said once they mic my old sight that they will make a fiber optic one for me. Sure is taking a long time to get this old K9 back into action. I’ve been working on it for months now!!!
Thanks everyone, and I will keep my eyes peeled for your sight as well Greg! : )
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