SHOT Show approaches-----any leaks regarding new Kahrs?

[MMyers1970]

Glock is evidently going to debut two new subcompact 9mms, with 10 round capacity. It appears they make their pistol about the size of a P9, where the SIG P365 is about the size of a PM9.

10 round capacity concealed carry pistols on subcompact frames are the new standard. I predict there will be offerings from manufacturers other than Glock. If I was looking for my first concealed carry pistol, the P365 leaps to the top of the list because of capacity to size ratio and a good trigger. The trigger on a P365 is very nice. VERY nice.

I know Kahr is a relatively small company, but a 10 round pistol that maintained as much Kahr thinness as possible is a no-brainer, and would sell tons. BUT there's also the possibility introducing a P365 competitor as a Kahr would cannibalize sales from their other pistols. Again, why would I buy a 6+1 PM9 when I could buy the theoretical 10+1 PM365(not the likely name, of course)?

It would be nice if the Gen 2 triggers would see introduction. It would be nice if Kahr offered the carbon fiber frame on all their polymer pistols.

It would be nice if Kahr introduced a T45. It would be nice if Kahr introduced an MK380.

It would be nice if Kahr produced a .22 on the CW9 platform. Would make a nice trainer.

They're doing some pretty cool things on the Magnum Research/Auto Ordnance sides of the business. Hope the actual Kahr product line doesn't become an afterthought.

Ruger is driving the costs of quality defensive handguns very low. I have seen LC9S for sale in the low $200s. I've seen CM9s for the low $300s. I'm actually kind of surprised Kahr still makes the P series. I have a P9 and a CM9 and they are functionally identical---except I like the bar/dot sights on the CM9 better than the Trijicons on my P9. I couldn't advise anyone to buy a Premium Series Kahr over a Value Line. Why spend more for two extra mags and some extra machining? Unless, of course, those are important to you.

I predict Kahr will eventually streamline their current production to Value Series pistols, K/MK/T series pistols(can't discontinue the flagship models), and the Premium Series will be the P365 competitors.

But I am likely incorrect.

[JohnR]

I’ve long advocated for a Kahr staggered-magazine design. The .45ACP Kahrs have a nice width that would probably accommodate a staggered 9mm.

[yqtszhj]

Even if kahr couldn’t match the size of the P365 in a CM9 size package, if they could at least make a 10 rounder the size of the CW9 for around $400 it would eat the lunch of the S&W shield, Walther PPS, XDS, G43, and others probably including the P365.

i like the Kahr trigger as much or better than all those mentioned above.

It’s funny to me that my P365 almost exactly matches the dimensions of my cm9, and they can use the same leather holsters. It makes one think the cm9 was their target size as the pm9/cm9 was about the smallest shootable 9mm out there prior to the P365.

[MMyers1970]

Even if kahr couldn’t match the size of the P365 in a CM9 size package, if they could at least make a 10 rounder the size of the CW9 for around $400 it would eat the lunch of the S&W shield, Walther PPS, XDS, G43, and others probably including the P365.

i like the Kahr trigger as much or better than all those mentioned above.

It’s funny to me that my P365 almost exactly matches the dimensions of my cm9, and they can use the same leather holsters. It makes one think the cm9 was their target size as the pm9/cm9 was about the smallest shootable 9mm out there prior to the P365.


You're dead on with the P365/CM9 size comparison. SIG isn't a stupid company. I'm quite certain they looked at what the smallest 9mm fighting pistol on the market was, and made that their goal. The P365 feels a lot like a CM9 in hand. If Kahr could do 10 rounds in a CM9 package and come in cheaper than the P365, they'd be as successful as a Kahr handgun can be.

Why did I phrase it that way? Because in the age of shooters who are obsessed with short triggers and even shorter resets, the Kahr trigger is an anomaly. Those of us who've spent the time learning them understand how outstanding they are, but Glock and Springfield shooter find it totally foreign. SIG has the second best trigger on the market with their P320/P365 models, no doubt. If Kahr's trigger was more like that, I think they would sell a LOT more handguns. But I like it the way it is, and I hope they always offer the traditional Kahr trigger as at least an option, if they bring the Gen2 trigger to market.

But even a CW9 sized pistol with a 10+1 capacity would be small. That would put it at about the size of the upcoming Glock pistol.

[gb6491]

...
It would be nice if Kahr introduced a T45. .....
Kahr should show their .45 ACP guns more love. IMO, they are still near or at the top of that market.
Give us the steel :)...at least make steel base plates for current magazines.

Beyond that:
Redesign the follower/springs to hold an extra round. Compact/Officer's 1911 magazines already do this in magazines the size of the current Kahr 6rd. 45 magazines. Offer this as a kit so I can stick them in my 1911 magazines.
Offer 1911 Officer's/compact style magazines with the above already installed.

Regards,
Greg

Love my CW45
http://i44.tinypic.com/24ca836.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/344scp3.jpg
https://s15.postimg.cc/bvn5348jv/tgresize.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/wlc36b.jpg

[ripley16]

… where the SIG P365 is about the size of a PM9

Just to be fair, I think the Sig matches up more closely to the P9 in size.

[Bawanna]

I'm tickled with what they offer now. I would like to see a K45 and a T45. And improve on what they have now, like the magazines Greg so wisely mentioned.

As small as the PM/CM9 is look at all the folks that pick a 380 to be even smaller???

For most of us there's really no need for more than 6 or 7 in a 9mm and a couple 45's is plenty cause shooting twice is just silly with a 45.
If I want high capacity I'll pack a bunch of mags and continue to practice mag swaps.

[gb6491]

I don't have a CM/PM 9 for a direct comparison, but the P365 is just larger than my MK9 and smaller than my CW9 (with the more noticeable difference being between the CW9 and P365).
https://i.postimg.cc/nVgF718P/3small.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
If given a choice of the three, I believe 007 would always go with the MK9 :cool:

Regards,
Greg

[yqtszhj]

Direct comparison of CM9 to P365. They’re pretty close...

but it when you pocket carry you can tell the grip is just a tad longer but not by much.

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[Bawanna]

Dang it, now I suppose I gotta get a 365 to stay up with the cool kids. Too much pressure around here, I'm starting to fold.
I'm hoping to get the very first T45 and or K45 off the line, that will make up for me being so far behind.
Color all you guys envious indeed.........

[MMyers1970]

Direct comparison of CM9 to P365. They’re pretty close...

but it when you pocket carry you can tell the grip is just a tad longer but not by much.

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When I got to handle one at my LGS, I happened to have my CM9 with me. It's pretty impressive how close in size SIG came to the CM9. It's a little bit thicker, and a tiny bit taller(I think). But really similar.

Great trigger, too. I think about getting one from time to time, but other projects are on the table first.

[onegun]

I'm a SIG guy but gotta admit I prefer the all metal, hammer fired ones to their striker guns. I have owned two P365s. They do have a good trigger but I had all sorts of problems with them. Back to SIG a couple of times and then abandoned them. I have owned several striker fired guns and the only ones I have trusted have been the Kahrs (after some work, or the Glocks whose trigger I detest.) Capacity for me is not the end all. My preferred carry is a SIG P220 Carry SAS DAK which is a single stack 8+1. It fits in a P228 holster. No. 2 is a 9+1 P239 DAK. The trigger on the P365 feels good but SIG needs to fix the platform and stop their rolling changes. If that happened I might go back in a year or so.

[yqtszhj]

I'm a SIG guy but gotta admit I prefer the all metal, hammer fired ones to their striker guns. I have owned two P365s. They do have a good trigger but I had all sorts of problems with them. Back to SIG a couple of times and then abandoned them. I have owned several striker fired guns and the only ones I have trusted have been the Kahrs (after some work, or the Glocks whose trigger I detest.) Capacity for me is not the end all. My preferred carry is a SIG P220 Carry SAS DAK which is a single stack 8+1. It fits in a P228 holster. No. 2 is a 9+1 P239 DAK. The trigger on the P365 feels good but SIG needs to fix the platform and stop their rolling changes. If that happened I might go back in a year or so.

I love hammer fired guns (I’m a CZ nut.... certified) and I have a couple of H&K’s aren’t prefect in trigger or the way I shoot them but dang it, I’m crazy about them too.

[Mike_usn_ret]

I am very satisfied with my CZ P-07 or my Tri Star C100. I like the CZ design and a hammer fired better than DAO.....except my CM9. I overlook Kahr being DAO, can not find anything I dislike about my CM9.

[JohnR]

I can only assume that Kahr is selling as many of its current lineup as they can produce (except .40S&W) and therefore has no incentive to add new models. Good for them! :)

[Armybrat]

I’d jump on a CW9 with increased capacity. Or a CM9. Otherwise i’m Done buying Kahrs.

[Banshee365]

I’d jump on a CW9 with increased capacity. Or a CM9. Otherwise i’m Done buying Kahrs.

Or just get a Mag Guts kit and carry 7+1 in the CM9 with the flush mag.

[340pd]

When Sig introduced the P365 I heard an interview with the designer on a podcast. He stated they started with a new patented magazine and then worked up from there always trying to keep the size to a minimum at each phase of the design. Yes, they had some issues but no more than the half dozen other manufacturers that have had recalls during the first year following introduction. Rolling changes to a gun is not unusual. Sig got all the attention because other manufacturers were trying to figure out how Sig came up with that little gun with a big capacity mag. Face it guys, there are over 300,000 out in owners hands and they are still hotter than two hamsters humping in a wool sock selling for $500 a pop.
I think we will find Sig's patents will protect them for a while and other manufacturers will have to resort to making a 10 round carry gun much larger than the P365.

There are lots of ways to gauge the actual size of a handgun other than physical measurements. My P365's are larger than my PM9. Not by much, but enough so if I really want to conceal, the Kahr wins hands down. The triggers on each are totally different and as a DA trigger lover, I find the Kahr to be a delight to shoot. Most other people don't see it that way and are not happy with a long trigger stroke regardless of how smoothly it functions. That takes training.

This is just me talking but in the coming years with Michael Bloomberg dumping millions into hand-selected state legislatures, a number of those states will put a ten round mag limit on the books and unless the Supreme Court takes this up, owning a hi capacity mag will legally become a thing of the past. Ya, we can say we will hide them but that is the same as sawing them in half. Precautionary note in anticipation I have made sure I currently have a ten round mag for every one of my hi capacity guns.
I don't mean to be a downer but reality bites when you lose major elections on a state level. The next couple of years will be very interesting.

[ltxi]

Dang it, now I suppose I gotta get a 365 to stay up with the cool kids. Too much pressure around here, I'm starting to fold.
I'm hoping to get the very first T45 and or K45 off the line, that will make up for me being so far behind.
Color all you guys envious indeed.........

Stick to your guns, so to speak. New and excitng most usually wears off and falls behind tried and true. Lots of new and exciting in my past but I got over it 32 years ago, after hooking up with my current wife.

[JohnR]

When Sig introduced the P365 I heard an interview with the designer on a podcast. He stated they started with a new patented magazine and then worked up from there always trying to keep the size to a minimum at each phase of the design. Yes, they had some issues but no more than the half dozen other manufacturers that have had recalls during the first year following introduction. Rolling changes to a gun is not unusual. Sig got all the attention because other manufacturers were trying to figure out how Sig came up with that little gun with a big capacity mag. Face it guys, there are over 300,000 out in owners hands and they are still hotter than two hamsters humping in a wool sock selling for $500 a pop.
I think we will find Sig's patents will protect them for a while and other manufacturers will have to resort to making a 10 round carry gun much larger than the P365.

There are lots of ways to gauge the actual size of a handgun other than physical measurements. My P365's are larger than my PM9. Not by much, but enough so if I really want to conceal, the Kahr wins hands down. The triggers on each are totally different and as a DA trigger lover, I find the Kahr to be a delight to shoot. Most other people don't see it that way and are not happy with a long trigger stroke regardless of how smoothly it functions. That takes training.

This is just me talking but in the coming years with Michael Bloomberg dumping millions into hand-selected state legislatures, a number of those states will put a ten round mag limit on the books and unless the Supreme Court takes this up, owning a hi capacity mag will legally become a thing of the past. Ya, we can say we will hide them but that is the same as sawing them in half. Precautionary note in anticipation I have made sure I currently have a ten round mag for every one of my hi capacity guns.
I don't mean to be a downer but reality bites when you lose major elections on a state level. The next couple of years will be very interesting.

Until the mag gestapo starts going door to door, or peeking around the wall at the range, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[340pd]

I fully agree but I also note that owning what big brother calls an "assault Mag" is already in effect in some states and possession of them is a felony subjecting the owner to give up their firearms. Those affected will have decisions to make.

[Bawanna]

Anybody ever hear of anybody getting charged for possession of hi cap magazines? Even a citation let alone jail time.

I agree that it's wise to follow the law but I'm also a big fan of ignoring laws that are dumb. I'm sure in some of these cities it's different but here in Washington I doubt many officers would even give thought to magazines.

Very few of my guns hold more than 10 but I'm not parting with them and not loosing sleep. If I hear a ban on like AR mags is coming, I'll buy a dozen more. Usually they grandfather in the old ones and I have no idea how they can enforce anything if they don't know when you got them.

[JohnR]

I have a 10-round AR mag just because it makes the rifle more compact and lighter to hold.

Florida is a long way from becoming Bloomburg Country, but anything is certainly possible.

[Banshee365]

I have a 10-round AR mag just because it makes the rifle more compact and lighter to hold.

Florida is a long way from becoming Bloomburg Country, but anything is certainly possible.

We were less than a percent or two from it actually. Gillum would have killed our gun rights hard. That would have been his #1 priority.

[kenemoore]

Anybody ever hear of anybody getting charged for possession of hi cap magazines? Even a citation let alone jail time.

I agree that it's wise to follow the law but I'm also a big fan of ignoring laws that are dumb. I'm sure in some of these cities it's different but here in Washington I doubt many officers would even give thought to magazines.

Very few of my guns hold more than 10 but I'm not parting with them and not loosing sleep. If I hear a ban on like AR mags is coming, I'll buy a dozen more. Usually they grandfather in the old ones and I have no idea how they can enforce anything if they don't know when you got them.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/05/ny-army-veteran-charged-illegal-pistol-magazines-faces-21-years-prison/

[kenemoore]

If they do pass a law outlawing "standard" magazines, and you have to switch to 10 rounds or less. Then your standard mags cannot be used outside you property, else someone might turn you in. BTW in my area low cap mags cost more!! A 10 round mag is 10-20% higher than a standard one. Order of magnitude thinggy I guess.

[yqtszhj]

There will be a market for hicap to 10 round mag mod services. They’ll make some permanent blockout gizmo and someone will get rich selling them. They already do that by pinning or dimpling the mag sleeve somewhere but I can’t remember where.

Hey, maybe we can get Harrylee working on something and he’ll give us a cut?

[dustnchips]

They did not grandfather bump stocks. The liberals will not grandfather anything they can manage to ban.

[BirdsThaWord]

I second (or 3rd, or 4th) a Kahr K45. That would be super cool! I can already imagine one....fully polished....Lakeline goodies...DROOL! :tongue:

[JohnR]

Mossberg has a new 9mm pistol. Similar to the CM9! Maybe Kahr knows what they’re doing!

[Barth]

I'll take one K45 Elite with Night Sights please :cool:

[gb6491]

Darn, all this talk of magazine restrictions plum scared me enough that I traded off my CZ 75 Tactical Sport for a single stack, sub ten round pistol:
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh0GG9gV/P210-American.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
;)
Regards,
Greg

[yqtszhj]

Darn, all this talk of magazine restrictions plum scared me enough that I traded off my CZ 75 Tactical Sport for a single stack, sub ten round pistol:
https://i.postimg.cc/651TMBsN/p210a-copy1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
;)
Regards,
Greg

That is one sweet pistol.

[gb6491]

That is one sweet pistol.
Thanks!:)

[Bawanna]

I of course hit the auction sites looking for one of these P210 beauties. Had to crawl back in the chair 4 times.
They don't give those things away but they sure are pretty. Drop dead gorgeous.

I'm not gonna look here anymore. Too much temptation. But did I mention how pretty they are?

[gb6491]

I of course hit the auction sites looking for one of these P210 beauties. Had to crawl back in the chair 4 times.
They don't give those things away but they sure are pretty. Drop dead gorgeous.

I'm not gonna look here anymore. Too much temptation. But did I mention how pretty they are?
Were those Swiss or German made P210s? They are sticker shock pricey.... used. :wof:
Mine is a P210 Target (SKU# 210A-9-TGT). Made in AMERICA:Amflag2:
While not inexpensive, it is not nearly as pricey as the Euro guns.
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Some were, had the bottom mag release but some were ours. Some were like up around 5000. The conventional ones I assume ours were pretty up there too.

Wouldn't make no never mind to me, which mag release it had, it's pretty much a target gun but it's so durn pretty I'd probably have to carry it at least now and then and certainly to dress up BBQ's and such.

[JohnR]

Makes the elusive T9 look like a bargain by comparison.

[Bawanna]

Hadn't thought of that, good thought. But even the elusive T9 pretty and as nice as it is isn't half as purty as that Sig. It sings loudly!

[Alfonse]

Just read about those P210s in American Rifleman. Beautiful gun Greg. I don't know if I could have let a Tactical Sport loose to get it though. A dilemma that would be.

[JohnR]

What sings to me is it’s “inner beauty.” I’d love to shoot one just to “know.” I don’t actually find it as sexy as a steel Kahr, or a BHP, or a 1911.

[gb6491]

Just read about those P210s in American Rifleman. Beautiful gun Greg. I don't know if I could have let a Tactical Sport loose to get it though. A dilemma that would be.
I did regret letting the TS go. My wife asked me later why I just didn't buy the SIG. I guess I was in a trading mood. In that mood, it was either the TS or my Shadow 2 going on the block. I like the S2 a touch better.


What sings to me is it’s “inner beauty.” I’d love to shoot one just to “know.” I don’t actually find it as sexy as a steel Kahr, or a BHP, or a 1911.
I should point out above that I "did" regret letting my CZ Tactical Sport go. After shooting the P210, letting the TS go is not that painful. I've only have about 100 rounds through the P210 and find it, as an informal target pistol, the best shooting 9mm I've ever shot. Outstanding ergonomics, trigger, and sights, it's way more accurate than I can shoot it offhand. It's also very soft and smooth shooting.
I let a friend try it and he later asked to try it again. This time he was shooting from ten yards at a 2" x 4" black spot on a target. After shooting a mag's worth, he said he couldn't see where the rounds were hitting and didn't know what he was doing wrong...turns out all were in the upper half of that black spot.

I like it enough that I'd let the Shadow 2 go for another......I take that back, I'd follow my wife's advice.

Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

This additional information is not helping me.
I already lost one of these on the auction site which was actually ok since I didn't have the money anyhow but I was gonna try and get creative.
Not sure exactly what that is even but I always say if you want something bad enough, you'll find a way.

I'm not totally on board with JohnR on this one. I love me a 1911, everybody knows that but this P210 sings.
I compare it to my S&W 41, it's sweet and I love it very much, accurate as it can be. This would be the 9mm version of that, maybe even cooler.

[gb6491]

What sings to me is it’s “inner beauty.” I’d love to shoot one just to “know.” I don’t actually find it as sexy as a steel Kahr, or a BHP, or a 1911.


This additional information is not helping me.
I already lost one of these on the auction site which was actually ok since I didn't have the money anyhow but I was gonna try and get creative.
Not sure exactly what that is even but I always say if you want something bad enough, you'll find a way.

I'm not totally on board with JohnR on this one. I love me a 1911, everybody knows that but this P210 sings.
I compare it to my S&W 41, it's sweet and I love it very much, accurate as it can be. This would be the 9mm version of that, maybe even cooler.
I too, am a 1911 fan, but I'm going to have to agree with you Colonel: the P210 sings to me as well. It doesn't hurt that it's grip angle is about the same plus it's cocked & locked with a thumb safety:)
https://i.postimg.cc/YSSjLtz5/the4p-copy1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/x8Q2HRSX/tps1a1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
(41's serial number altered to add confusion)
Regards,
Greg


...and one for the CZ fans;)
https://i.postimg.cc/mgVP00GW/4aces-copy2-1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Bawanna]

Didn't know you had a 41. I was truly in love with the Colt Woodsman Match Target platform until I got the Smith. I still love the Colt but the 41 sings louder.
Feels super in hand and unbelievably accurate even with me running the trigger.

The P210 is a stand out in all them groups. Didn't know it was cocked and locked. Learn more everyday.
Need to work on learning to consolidate more money in larger lumps so I can unfold a few more dreams............................

[berettabone]

Setting aside the fact that I'm not a 1911 guy, that Sig has to be one of the most beautiful looking firearms out there today. Definitely would own one, even with the platform.

[CPTKILLER]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgEQKa_byA

https://n1a.goexposoftware.com/events/ss19/goExpo/exhibitor/viewExhibitorProfile.php?__id=424

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/shot-show-2019/

Nothing from Kahr on this blog.

[johnh]

I will be at SHOT and will post pics if there is anything on the Kahr side. Right now I don't expect any new pistols. Some custom stuff maybe. Down the road, anything is possible. I will try and make sure anything new gets here first when I hear about it.

[Bawanna]

Take a big sack and load up on free samples. Give Mr. Moon a big wet smoochy kiss right on the smackers and tell him it's from bawanna.

Naw, better not do that. Too weird. Love to meet you and all the Kahr folks there one of these days. Won't happen again this year but we'll keep fingers crossed for next.

[johnh]

Don't forget NRA. Maybe you can attend that at some point. It is a bit more open and lots of good folks from the public come by. It is always a great time!

[Bawanna]

Yup, I'll try that one too. Staff here said if it ever worked out my credentials would be enough to get into SHOT. Seems everybody can get in, guess they have to act like somebody or something.
I went to an NRA show long long ago here in Seattle, it was a blast. I remember chatting with the Desert Eagle rep for a long time, back when all they offered was the 357, they were brand new. Tore that thing completely apart, it was cool.

[johnh]

I can promise you a good time, that is for sure! :cool:

[MMyers1970]

I will be at SHOT and will post pics if there is anything on the Kahr side. Right now I don't expect any new pistols. Some custom stuff maybe. Down the road, anything is possible. I will try and make sure anything new gets here first when I hear about it.


Thanks!

[JohnR]

Today is day 2, where's the Kahr news?

[Alfonse]

They were showing the Blue Line versions and the shiny T9 as the new stuff.

[MMyers1970]

Kahr Arms Nation FB group had a booth tour. They showed the PM9 Covert. P9 frame/PM9 slide, so opposite of the old Coverts. 7+1 capacity but MagGuts evens that up for PM9 owners. The selling point is a longer grip for better purchase and a short slide to aid concealment. I usually say the grip is the hardest part of the pistol to conceal, so shorter is better. But with AIWB carry becoming so popular, that gets flipped. With a proper claw holster, the grip is tucked into the body, leaving the slide length as more important for comfort.

That's what the G43X is for.

Seems like a market which needs to be catered to. Smart business. I'd prefer the old Covert. One day I'll buy a CW9 and cut the grip down.

Will a P9 slide fit on a CM9 frame?

[Bawanna]

They were showing the Blue Line versions and the shiny T9 as the new stuff.

You got me a shiny T9 right? I knew I could count on you.

[Alfonse]

I almost forgot, they have a model with the P9 (actually an S9) frame on a PM9 sized slide. A "Covert" they called it. And, a shiny T9 would look great in your holster Bawanna.

Oops, just see that was mentioned already. It is an S9 frame with the tiny rail.

[JohnR]

I didn't realize MagGuts had a PM9 kit, I'll have to look into that.

[yqtszhj]

I didn't realize MagGuts had a PM9 kit, I'll have to look into that.

Hey, that’s relatively new. I need that. That wasn’t available just a few weeks ago when I was looking at magguts for my Walther.

[gb6491]

MagGuts site still has the PM kits listed as "This product is coming soon! (https://magguts.com/product/kahr-9mm-magguts-for-6-round-magazine/)".

[DavidR]

Kahr Arms Nation FB group had a booth tour. They showed the PM9 Covert. P9 frame/PM9 slide, so opposite of the old Coverts. 7+1 capacity but MagGuts evens that up for PM9 owners. The selling point is a longer grip for better purchase and a short slide to aid concealment. I usually say the grip is the hardest part of the pistol to conceal, so shorter is better. But with AIWB carry becoming so popular, that gets flipped. With a proper claw holster, the grip is tucked into the body, leaving the slide length as more important for comfort.

That's what the G43X is for.

Seems like a market which needs to be catered to. Smart business. I'd prefer the old Covert. One day I'll buy a CW9 and cut the grip down.

Will a P9 slide fit on a CM9 frame?

I like the new covert as I carry IWB at 1:30 but I get the same thing with a CM9 and Lakeline plus 1 extension. The grip is actually a little shorter than my P9 but because I’m a small person it’s a full 3-finger grip for me.

https://i.imgur.com/pfnVWlcl.jpg

[johnh]

In addition to the new Kahr Covert (S9 frame, PM9 slide), there will be a new K9 25th Anniversary model. It has custom engraving, special grips, and a tungsten Cerakote finish. Here is a pic:

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[johnh]

Also high polish on the stainless bits. Forgot that part. :D

[JohnR]

That looks cool! What are the grips made of?

[johnh]

That looks cool! What are the grips made of?

They are aluminum. Very comfortable!

[Bawanna]

That's a good looking gun right there.

[berettabone]

Personally, I don't care for the looks at all, and metal grips are not my thing. Too bad that they are starting to look like everyone else's firearms, which is a shame.

[Bawanna]

Or is it that everyone elses firearms are looking like theirs?

I've no experience with metal grips to be honest, so the jury remains in deliberation on that but I know a guy that knows a guy that can fix that if it's not appealing.
They look good to me and I never would have guessed with 3 chances that they were aluminum. I would have went Tupperware on the first two guess's.
That would have been a wasted guess huh? Boy I can be dumb some days, ok ok most days.

[kenemoore]

I have a CZ with factory aluminum grips, they work and look great. I have been tempted to try them on a carry 1911, but like the factory ones too much.

[rx7sig]

[There] will be a new K9 25th Anniversary model. It has custom engraving, special grips, and a tungsten Cerakote finish. Here is a pic:

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Um, no, thanks. My six months new, night-sighted K9 is "perfect" as is. Well, a threaded barrel and suppressor sights would be nice. And wood grips, too, maybe.

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[Bawanna]

I have a K9 but I'd still give a nice home to one of these.

[Bobshouse]

Lookie what I got at the gunshow!

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[Bawanna]

That's a nice hat. Gunshow or SHOT?

I kind of like the looks of the polo shirts the Kahr folks were wearing at the SHOT show. Pretty sharp.

[JohnR]

I’d wear it!

[Bobshouse]

Shot show in Vegas. I didn't go this year but a coworker went. He met Hickkok45 and Jerry Miculek, got a ton of freebies, I grabbed the hat.

[Bawanna]

I'd love to make it one of these years and meet a bunch of those people, especially in the Kahr booth.
Some of my co workers went year before last I guess, brought me back some stuff, the best thing being an autographed poster of Mrs. Moon.
Liked it so well I had it framed and have it hanging proudly in my man cave. I was pretty tickled.

[dao]

I gotta ask. Why Mrs. Moon?

[JohnR]

I gotta ask. Why Mrs. Moon?
Most dudes don't want a poster of Justin.

[Bawanna]

She was the Kahr girl there for a year. It was the "Slim is in" logo year. She's a very pretty lady. She was Miss Korea some years back, perfect poster girl.

I don't want Mr Moon to get a phobia or nothing so I wouldn't mind a poster of him too. Can't say as I'd get it framed but maybe, guess it depends on the day.:confused:

[JohnR]

She was the Kahr girl there for a year. It was the "Slim is in" logo year. She's a very pretty lady. She was Miss Korea some years back, perfect poster girl.

I don't want Mr Moon to get a phobia or nothing so I wouldn't mind a poster of him too. Can't say as I'd get it framed but maybe, guess it depends on the day.:confused:

Gotta have somethin' for the wife to look at.

[dao]

She was the Kahr girl there for a year. It was the "Slim is in" logo year. She's a very pretty lady. She was Miss Korea some years back, perfect poster girl.

I don't want Mr Moon to get a phobia or nothing so I wouldn't mind a poster of him too. Can't say as I'd get it framed but maybe, guess it depends on the day.:confused:

Now I get it. I couldn't think of why he would have posters made of his wife. A former Kahr girl is not what popped into my head.

[Bobshouse]

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