Shot the P365 and the CZ Rami today....

[yqtszhj]

Well, weather was beautiful today in the mid 80’s so I took vacation. Worked in the yard half the day then thought going to the range would be a good idea.

Carried a AR “pistol” I built recently, the Sig P365, the CZ Rami, and the CZ Phantom.

Shot the AR. Well, It’s an AR, not much to say there.

Then shot the P365 for 50 rounds. It had been a while since I had shot it and all went fine. At 10 yards had a 5 inch group without really working at it.

Then the CZ Phantom 50 rounds. I really like that pistol. It’s a tack driver. It’s about to take the HD role.

Next was the Rami. It’s been a while since I had shot it. I forgot how nice it really is. Soft shooting and points naturally. Rapid file is no problem. I was shooting at a 1/2 size silhouette target at 10 yards. 100 rounds doing da/sa double taps and triple taps and the head of the target was gone. I’m about to make the P365 my pocket pistol and let the Rami take all waistband roles. Plus it will take the 18 round SP-01 magazines. Tested that out today. My Rami pic is below.

Now here’s my quandary. I have a chance to get another “As New” never fired Rami 2075 D from an individual locally for about $125 - $150 less than what one cost new. Don’t know that I really need it (when has that ever mattered) but am really considering it. Being a CZ nut I’m having a hard time resisting it. I think I’m going to have to get it at that price.

What say you all?????


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[Bawanna]

I think the right thing to do is get that Rami and send it to bawanna. If I was in your shoes, that's what I'd do.

I know he's been a pondering all these CZ models for quite a spell. Yup, the right thing to do.

Hope this helps.

[Ed M]

IMHO - grab it.

While the holster has a lot to do with it, my RAMI carries so nice in my Winthrop OWB leather pancake holster.

Your choices are pretty much the same as mine, except I still prefer my CM9 for pocket carry duty.

The P365 is getting it's share of carry time though.

[kenemoore]

Get it.

[JohnR]

You never know when you'll need a backup for your first Rami. It might need a repair or something, or Bawanna might borrow it. Best to have a second one just in case.

[yqtszhj]

Well, I waited too long, it’s gone. :( I guess I’ll just have to be satisfied with what I have and invest in more mags and ammo and turn this negative into a positive.

[Bawanna]

Show me curled up on the floor in a fatal position sucking my thumb with a beach towel under me head to catch the tears.

I'm so sad!!!

[dao]

I've lusted after the CZ 2075 D Rami for years. Never could find one. Probably would not pick one up now if I did find one, as I have others that are more than adequate to fill the same role and of comparable size and capacity, but I still get a thrill each time I see one in posts like this. At least you have one already, so as you said you have something to be satisfied with. Would have been a great buy though.

[Bawanna]

I got a few options myself but that don't work for me. I'd jump on one first chance I got where I had enough rubbles.

[JohnR]

There's a store here that has one, if anyone's interested.

[Ed M]

... I have others that are more than adequate to fill the same role and of comparable size and capacity

Because life is too short for adequate.




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[Bawanna]

Damn, looks even more bawanna with the wood grips, that sings.

[dao]

Now that was downright cruel.

Nice gun though, dang it.

[Barth]

You never know when you'll need a backup for your first Rami. It might need a repair or something, or Bawanna might borrow it. Best to have a second one just in case.

+1
This is how I usually rationalize a second gun :rolleyes:
It's mostly a total lie, I've got plenty of backup guns - LOL!

But when a really like a particular gun? I seem to find ways to have two of them :cool:

2 Sig P229 357s
2 Hk P2000 357s
2 Ruger LC9s Pro 9mms
3 Sig P220 45s

[rx7sig]

Hmmm. A K9 is 6" x 4.5" x 0.9" (L x H x W), all steel, with a 3.5" polygonal barrel and a 7 + 1 CC capacity.

A CZ 2075 Rami BD is 6.5" x 4.7" x 1.25", steel + Al, with a 3" barrel and 10 + 1 CC capacity (per https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-2075-rami-bd-9mm-black-alloy-3-dot-tritium-sights-14-rd-mags/).

Each weighs ~25 oz empty, with empty mag.

So, the advantages of the CZ over the Kahr are its greater carry capacity and its re-strike capability (being hammer-fired).

And the advantages of the Kahr over the CZ are its consistent DAO-striker trigger pull, longer barrel in a lengthwise-shorter platform, polygonal barrel, thinner profile, and all-steel construction.

Did I miss anything? Are there warranty differences?

rx7sig

[dao]

An HK P2000SK in 9mm is 6.4" long, 5" tall (in 13+1 config), 1.125" thick, and 25oz empty, again with a 13rd mag. It can also be set up with 10rd and 15rd mags. In V3 configuration it is DA/SA and the SA trigger is very crisp. In either of the LEM variants it is a light or lighter trigger DAO gun. The P2000 adds a little less than a half inch in length and one eighth inch in height, and in .40 (12+1) is roughly the same weight as the 13+1 in 9mm. So, both are more than adequate, very reliable, and easily concealed.

Still though, I wish I had been able to find the Rami when I was in the hunt.

[yqtszhj]

Hmmm. A K9 is 6" x 4.5" x 0.9" (L x H x W), all steel, with a 3.5" polygonal barrel and a 7 + 1 CC capacity.

A CZ 2075 Rami BD is 6.5" x 4.7" x 1.25", steel + Al, with a 3" barrel and 10 + 1 CC capacity (per https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-2075-rami-bd-9mm-black-alloy-3-dot-tritium-sights-14-rd-mags/).

Each weighs ~25 oz empty, with empty mag.

So, the advantages of the CZ over the Kahr are its greater carry capacity and its re-strike capability (being hammer-fired).

And the advantages of the Kahr over the CZ are its consistent SAO-striker trigger pull, longer barrel in a lengthwise-shorter platform, polygonal barrel, thinner profile, and all-steel construction.

Did I miss anything? Are there warranty differences?

rx7sig

Thats about it. CZ warranty is 5 years I believe. Also I think the Rami is a little cheaper. The CZ responds well to trigger work for those who like to do that kind of stuff, while my Kahrs are smooth from the get go. You can’t beat a Kahrs thinness. I’d still like a K9 one day I think. Matter of fact there is a gun show today. I think I need to go...

[340pd]

You never know when you'll need a backup for your first Rami. It might need a repair or something, or Bawanna might borrow it. Best to have a second one just in case.

That is exactly how I wound up with a second P365. I am afraid to shoot any CZ offerings. Everyone raves about them and I am oled and I really do not want to start another collection area in my safe.
I do have a lady friend with a Rami that she may be willing to sell. Hummm, one mag couldn't hurt could it?

[CPTKILLER]

I have a new Sig P365 and a Sig P320 X-Carry in 9mm. Both are remarkable pistols.

Kahr could do itself a favor by studying the P365.

[yqtszhj]

Well, when you miss a buy you wanted, then for condolence go to a gun show, you buy a rebound purchase. I’d post a picture but Postimage has now blocked me for “terms of service” something or other.

Anyway, I actually had been considering a G43x for a while because I liked the slim frame and full grip idea w/ 10 rounds. Found one at a good enough price that it was basically tax free, no shipping, no Xfer fee. So I got it. I’ll post a review when I get to shoot it. If it shoots well I have a couple of other single stacks to sell to pay for it and buy a case of ammo.

Now im up to 2 glocks again.....

[boscobarbell]

An HK P2000SK in 9mm is 6.4" long, 5" tall (in 13+1 config), 1.125" thick, and 25oz empty, again with a 13rd mag. It can also be set up with 10rd and 15rd mags. In V3 configuration it is DA/SA and the SA trigger is very crisp. In either of the LEM variants it is a light or lighter trigger DAO gun. The P2000 adds a little less than a half inch in length and one eighth inch in height, and in .40 (12+1) is roughly the same weight as the 13+1 in 9mm. So, both are more than adequate, very reliable, and easily concealed.

Still though, I wish I had been able to find the Rami when I was in the hunt.

And it has H&K engineering, durability, and reliability. Once I took the plunge and bought the P2000sk, there was no turning back. I sold my Walther PPQ and PPS, as well as my Glock 27, and never really looked seriously at another tactical, higher capacity handgun. Mine is in .40 with the light LEM trigger, and it is the best shooting, most accurate gun (in my hands) that I own out to 15 yards or so.

I have a P30 in the same configuration for extended range work or longer distance shooting (which made obsolete my Sig Legion P229), and it has the same family traits that distinguish H&K from the competitors.

If H&K made a single-stack in 9mm or 40, I'd have no excuse not to sell off my entire EDC collection.

[yqtszhj]

If H&K made a single-stack in 9mm or 40, I'd have no excuse not to sell off my entire EDC collection.

^^^^^^ that right there ^^^^^^

My P30 and P30sk are uber reliable. I stocked up on P30 mags for them. Now like you said, if they just made a slim light single stack of 8 to 10 rounds, preferably in DA/SA.....

[Barth]

That is exactly how I wound up with a second P365. I am afraid to shoot any CZ offerings. Everyone raves about them and I am oled and I really do not want to start another collection area in my safe.
I do have a lady friend with a Rami that she may be willing to sell. Hummm, one mag couldn't hurt could it?

You know very well that's exactly how it all starts.
One more flavor of potato chip...
I don't own any CZs for exactly this reason.

My single AK variant quickly became four - LOL.
And one Galil ACE 308 was just not enough :cool:
https://i.imgur.com/1Bn4p9T.jpg

[Barth]

And it has H&K engineering, durability, and reliability. Once I took the plunge and bought the P2000sk, there was no turning back. I sold my Walther PPQ and PPS, as well as my Glock 27, and never really looked seriously at another tactical, higher capacity handgun. Mine is in .40 with the light LEM trigger, and it is the best shooting, most accurate gun (in my hands) that I own out to 15 yards or so.

I have a P30 in the same configuration for extended range work or longer distance shooting (which made obsolete my Sig Legion P229), and it has the same family traits that distinguish H&K from the competitors.

If H&K made a single-stack in 9mm or 40, I'd have no excuse not to sell off my entire EDC collection.

Hk makes some of the best small arms in the world.
Most of my handguns are Hk :cool:

[dao]

Yep, more than adequate :cool:

[markman]

Apparently, HK is having money problems.



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