CM9 7 rd mags..???

[guido4198]

I tried a (factory) 7 rd CM9 mag back in 2013 and had so many problems I gave up on it. Good news is that when I contacted the factory, they immediately offered to exchange it for a new 6-rd, which is what I did.
Lately...I've been wondering if the factory, or anyone else for that matter has offered a RELIABLE mag with increased capacity over the 6 rounder.
Thanks.

[DavidR]

https://lakelinellc.com/shop/1-magazine-base-kahr-9mm/

[leftysixty]

Galloway also offers a Plus base/extension, I have several, that work quite well :biggrin1::yo:

[oldtimer]

Have no problems with my 7 round mag.

[187911]

No problem with my 7 rounders either. They're basically the exact same magazines that the K9 uses minus the base plate aka pinky extension that prevents over insertion of the magazine into the MK9.

I'd buy whole new 7 round magazine vs paying the same price for a +1 extension for 6 round mag. New MK9 7 round mags are about $30, and used ones can be found from $15-$25.

[187911]

Wouldn't the +1 base plate on a 6 round mag basically be just adding the extra space that already exist at the bottom of the 7 round Kahr magazine? The only difference is that it would still use the 6 round mag spring whereas the Kahr 7 round mags have a different/stronger spring than the 6 round mags... Doesn't make much logical sense to me.

[DavidR]

Wouldn't the +1 base plate on a 6 round mag basically be just adding the extra space that already exist at the bottom of the 7 round Kahr magazine? The only difference is that it would still use the 6 round mag spring whereas the Kahr 7 round mags have a different/stronger spring than the 6 round mags... Doesn't make much logical sense to me.

The Lakeline extension does not add as much length as a 7 round magazine. And, for whatever reason, some people report problems using the Kahr 7 rounder in a CM9.

[187911]

The Lakeline extension does not add as much length as a 7 round magazine. And, for whatever reason, some people report problems using the Kahr 7 rounder in a CM9.

Odd being that not much is different vs the 6 round mags other than having space for the extra round and a slightly stronger spring.

[Mike_usn_ret]

Had a problem with my 7 rd for about first 5 or so times. Since then nothing...however I did tweak the mag lips a bit. If that made any difference .????

[IDisposable]

My 7 round magazine wouldn't seat completely firmly in my S9. I took the base off and sanded a tiny bit off the top edge (the open end) by placing on 320 grit paper and sliding around until it would latch firmly every time....sand a bit, reassemble, check, repeat...

I think the slope of the magazine bottom didn't exactly match the bottom of the handle.

Before I did this it would randomly drop down after the first shot.

[CPTKILLER]

I understand the 7 round magazine discussion.

However my Kahr MK9 is superior to Kimber offerings while I was considering one.

Along came the revised Sig P365 with a 10 or 12 or 15 round magazine. It is a compact, reliable, and accurate pistol.

[bugs]

I've never had a problem w/ 7rd. CM9 mags (for carry) either,but changed to Lakeline to be sure; read a thread somewhere here about sanding the plastic follower hump smooth and tried that and had no problems either. SOooo, the Lakelines went into my 6rd. mags (for competition where they're used more) and the plastic followers back into the carry mags. still work great! go figure.

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELIEVER

[Bawanna]

I understand the 7 round magazine discussion.

However my Kahr MK9 is superior to Kimber offerings while I was considering one.

Along came the revised Sig P365 with a 10 or 12 or 15 round magazine. It is a compact, reliable, and accurate pistol.


And if the Sig don't get it done you always have the dog for a back up plan. Good looking pup.

[balddog05]

i have a few Kahr 7 rounds magazines - haven't had any issues but i've really polished up the feed ramp maybe that helped

im waiting to see how things pan out with Magguts too - they're working on a +1 for both the 6 and 7 round CM9 magazines - they change out your follower on the magazine along with the spring and you can load one more round without changing the base - turning a 6 round standard magazine into a 7 round, then add one to the chamber and you got 8 rounds with your CM9 - the 7 round magazines now hold 8 with 1 in the chamber giving you 9 - not bad for a small carry gun

i'd be very interested in that - i have one of the Galloway Precision magazine extensions and it's well worth the $$$ - having large hands that 1/2" extension plate comes in handy, much more comfortable for me than the 6 round magazine

[guido4198]

Balddog5: Thank you for that reference to Magguts. I didn't know about them. Certainly one to watch if they offer a kit for my CM9. I can imagine purchasing a Kahr 7-rd. and adding their kit for an 8+1 CM9..!! NOW we're talking..!! Almost sounds too good to be real, but time will tell.
At the moment...I have 2 Kahr 6-rd mags that are functioning flawlessly in my CM9 with everything I've put through them...various jhp carry rds, military fmj, and my (relatively mild) cast bullet reloads. I don't want to screw that up, but would really like to up my magazine round count and get that Sig P365 outta my head..!!

[oldtimer]

I view accuracy more important then round count, also light weight is a factor for me. Most self defense situations require few rounds.

[Bawanna]

Words of wisdom right there boys and girls. NOthing prettier than loaded magazines stacked from here to the horizon but you most likely won't need them.

[berettabone]

If you need more than 6 rds., you're in the wrong place with the wrong firearm........................................... ......

[kenemoore]

I have never got the PM45 extended mags to run reliably. I think I hold my mouth wrong or something.
Never had any issues with my PM9 running longer mags, I even use a T9 mag on a blue moon, and they run fine.

[Bawanna]

I never tried an extended in my PM45, don't have one. I've run some 1911 mags with mixed success, they all run, some don't lock back on empty which don't bother me much. One reason for me the PM45 is a perfect running mate for a 1911.

[187911]

I view accuracy more important then round count, also light weight is a factor for me. Most self defense situations require few rounds.

Ever since Glocks hit the scene and with all the shooting in the media, we're in the age where everyone forseees themselves having to shoot it out with a pack of armed gangsters, terrorist, or armed to the teeth mass shooters... Gun owners are also spending millions and giving up long time EDC's just to gain an extra round or two in a magazine. Just signs of the time.

I still carry my steel 6-7 round Kahrs and 5 round snubbies. Dispite all the warnings of imminent demise, I'm still alive and kicking.

[Bawanna]

Me too although I sometimes think one wheel is on a banana peel.

[balddog05]

Balddog5: Thank you for that reference to Magguts. I didn't know about them. Certainly one to watch if they offer a kit for my CM9. I can imagine purchasing a Kahr 7-rd. and adding their kit for an 8+1 CM9..!! NOW we're talking..!! Almost sounds too good to be real, but time will tell.
At the moment...I have 2 Kahr 6-rd mags that are functioning flawlessly in my CM9 with everything I've put through them...various jhp carry rds, military fmj, and my (relatively mild) cast bullet reloads. I don't want to screw that up, but would really like to up my magazine round count and get that Sig P365 outta my head..!!

I've seen a few reviews on YouTube with shooters using Magguts on their Kahr 380's - i would say they've been pretty positive up to now and it makes sense - they're basically using a smaller follower which allows room for another round - still not sure about all the pros and cons with a different follower but, for now, it seems like a plausible way of increasing magazine capacity without having to extend the base - $20+ to add one round seems a bit expensive though, although it wouldn't be the first time i've overspent on an accessory :)

the part im NOT getting is the time it's been taking them to add the 9mm version to their site - its been "Coming Soon" for quite a while now - last update i heard was end of June, that was a month and a half back - i converted my 6 round magazine to a 7 rounder with the Galloway Precision base plate extension and i have four 7 round magazines too - i could see myself investing the money into making 2 of them 8 rounders

[balddog05]

Balddog5: Thank you for that reference to Magguts. I didn't know about them. Certainly one to watch if they offer a kit for my CM9. I can imagine purchasing a Kahr 7-rd. and adding their kit for an 8+1 CM9..!! NOW we're talking..!! Almost sounds too good to be real, but time will tell.
At the moment...I have 2 Kahr 6-rd mags that are functioning flawlessly in my CM9 with everything I've put through them...various jhp carry rds, military fmj, and my (relatively mild) cast bullet reloads. I don't want to screw that up, but would really like to up my magazine round count and get that Sig P365 outta my head..!!
just got an email from MagGuts informing me that they "hope" to have the CM9 MagGut components on the market by next week - we'll see :)

[gb6491]

just got an email from MagGuts informing me that they "hope" to have the CM9 MagGut components on the market by next week - we'll see :)
They have a video up of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLIjmLzNn1U
It looks like it will be their nested/hybrid spring design. :(

I was hoping they would do that single flat wire spring that they use in the Shield.

[DavidR]

I’ll pass on the dual spring design.

I’ve opted for Lakeline’s +1 billet which provides just enough room for my pinky.

[guido4198]

Now I’m wondering if it might be possible to put the Lakeline billet +1 extension on a Kahr 9mm mag, then install the Magguts internals and add one more ..??
hmmm..

[DavidR]

Now I’m wondering if it might be possible to put the Lakeline billet +1 extension on a Kahr 9mm mag, then install the Magguts internals and add one more ..??
hmmm..

I don’t know for sure but i think not.

[oldtimer]

Sorry cannot see paying $29 for one round, simply purchase another 7 round mag. Many of the so called up grades simply do not give the value for cost.

[187911]

Sorry cannot see paying $29 for one round, simply purchase another 7 round mag. Many of the so called up grades simply do not give the value for cost.

That's what I said.

[balddog05]

Now I’m wondering if it might be possible to put the Lakeline billet +1 extension on a Kahr 9mm mag, then install the Magguts internals and add one more ..??
hmmm..

i had a similar line of thinking - i have the Galloway Precision +1 extension - makes my 6 a 7 - i don't see why one couldn't buy the 7 round MagGuts components and using it with that to obtain 8 rounds in the magazine - why would it be any different from having a 7 round Kahr magazine and using the +1 MagGuts to make it 8 plus one chambered? Or, just use it with one of my 7 round Kahr mags - still like oldtimer said, $29 bucks is quite a bit for one additional round

**won't work on the 7 round mags because of the gap - sigh - turning the 6 into a 7 with the base extension then buying the 7 round MagGuts might still work though

i wonder if Kahr will ever sell a cuff to close off that gap in longer magazines - i have one with my FNS 9c and it makes a helluva difference

[Bawanna]

29 bucks will buy a whole new mag and you'd have 7 more.........

[oldtimer]

Bingo, another mag. is the answer.


E=Bawanna;408608]29 bucks will buy a whole new mag and you'd have 7 more.........[/QUOTE]

[DavidR]

Another 7 round mag adds to the length of the grip. Some people don’t want to do that.

[187911]

Another 7 round mag adds to the length of the grip. Some people don’t want to do that.

Just me, but I'd carry 7 round back-ups, and have 6 rounds in gun. Like others have stated, it seems really silly to spend that much money to only gain one round. Even more so for those who are adding extensions rather than "MagGuts."

On the other hand, it's y'alls money to spend. If you like it, I love it even though I don't understand it. :D

[oldtimer]

Yep, what America is all about, free to spend wise or not. Some accessories are good some are not, mag prices in my opinion are out of sight.



Just me, but I'd carry 7 round back-ups, and have 6 rounds in gun. Like others have stated, it seems really silly to spend that much money to only gain one round. Even more so for those who are adding extensions rather than "MagGuts."

On the other hand, it's y'alls money to spend. If you like it, I love it even though I don't understand it. :D

[balddog05]

i actually prefer my Galloway Precision base extension versus the normal 6 round flat magazine - maybe not as cosmetically good looking like the Pearce pinky finger base but it'll hold that extra round and not interfere at all with my carry - if i can use the MagGuts components and get that 8th round using that and the Galloway base i'll consider it - $29 buxx for a follower and spring is kind of high - especially in as so far it's still untested for the 9mm in the open market - if they have the 7 round MagGuts that's probably what i'll have to buy

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