Beautiful HK, but then it hits me...

[gb6491]

Found this while surfing the web a while back:
https://i.postimg.cc/4yMW9r1d/74638881-545292329644833-7135469698042950409-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/7hV2v75y/75551328-397299734479453-2516993174748207045-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
I wonder if it was done of purpose to mock the infamous HK brochure?
Regards,
Greg

[Ken L]

On the bright side, the P7 is gorgeous. One of those, even not case hardened, is my Grail Gun.

I'm sure it was loaded that way to mock the old brochure. At least I hope it was!

[yqtszhj]

I like that and I bet it also was mocking the brochure.

[Bawanna]

Always wanted one of those myself. Guess I've had a lot of wants over the years.

[I_Like_Turtles]

Got to shoot one, pretty neat gun. Had been stolen, taken off an arrested drug dealer, owner got it back, and I met him at the gun range.

Are those shells in the mag in backwards?

[Bawanna]

Actually the shells are correct, the magazine is backwards. It's a relative thing.

[I_Like_Turtles]

If you say so..... LOL

[ripley16]

Doesn't matter. It's a HK P7 ... It'll feed and fire loaded either way. :yo:
While not literally correct, I've yet to have any one of my 7 HKs fail. Unbelievably reliable pistols.
That's a beautiful PSP. Reminds me of the Sig Rainbow Titanium finish.

[rx7sig]

I have all the pistols I will ever need (Sig P229 SSE, M11-A1, and K9), probably. However, I would really like to own a P7 and a P64.

rx7sig

[I_Like_Turtles]

I have all the pistols I will ever need (Sig P229 SSE, M11-A1, and K9), probably. However, I would really like to own a P7 and a P64.

rx7sig

I have all will ever need too but that's never stopped me from buying another. :-)

[berettabone]

Unless I'm mistaken, some beautiful Nill grips...………………………………………………………..

[Alfonse]

Beautiful pistol. Now I wish I'd seen the brochure it was mocking.

[jeepster09]

Perhaps it was loaded that way in order to shoot behind.......hmm?

[dao]

Actually the shells are correct, the magazine is backwards. It's a relative thing.

LOL. I see you're a glass too big for the water that's in it kind of guy Colonel


I have all the pistols I will ever need (Sig P229 SSE, M11-A1, and K9), probably. However, I would really like to own a P7 and a P64.

rx7sig

Bought my first pistol in 1982. Still have it. To think I didn't need all the ones that I've had and traded since then. Please don't tell my wife that.

[ripley16]

Beautiful pistol. Now I wish I'd seen the brochure it was mocking.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvqZTRHH/HKbullets-Backwards.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[ripley16]

Unless I'm mistaken, some beautiful Nill grips...………………………………………………………..

I don't think those are Nill grips. Maybe another wood than walnut. Nice even though.
https://i.postimg.cc/52NK785n/P7-with-nill.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[gb6491]

Here's the backstory of the pistol: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/midwest-gun-works-delivers-hk-p7-hotness/

[Bawanna]

Well I'll be jiggered, they are indeed Nill grips according to the story. Beautiful gun.

[dao]

They command a substantial premium on the HK board. I'm not sure why that is. I know nothing about them, except that I don't really care for the looks of them. If I ever had one I'd probably love it given how many people find them very desirable. But when it comes to guns, for me and my own particular or maybe peculiar tastes, visual esthetics counts for a lot.

[Bawanna]

The only downfall I've heard was they get hot during long range sessions. Years ago my old favorite shop had one and the owner took it apart and showed me the workings. Definitely a different operating system but I liked it.
A local agency back then actually used them as an optional duty gun. Many loved them.
I've never shot one so no first hand experience but I want them all eventually so it's just one more on the list.

[BirdsThaWord]

Niiiice case hardening in my opinion. I would LOVE to have a 1911 frame done that way, with a royal blue slide. :ohmy:

[gb6491]

Niiiice case hardening in my opinion. I would LOVE to have a 1911 frame done that way, with a royal blue slide. :ohmy:
Mine has the full monty:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZRZG23dm/ao1000.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Regards,
Greg

[DJK11]

Is that a Turnbull? I probably would have dropped mine in the BBQ under the burgers and let the drippings add some bling.

[dustnchips]

Wow.

[gb6491]

Is that a Turnbull? I probably would have dropped mine in the BBQ under the burgers and let the drippings add some bling.
No, it's a model that Auto-Ordnance offers (1911GCH). Tyler Gun Works does the coloring for them.
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Forgive me lord but that gun makes my britches stick out in front. Stag and case hardening.........a half man can only take so much.

[340pd]

I must be the only one who never warmed up to the P7. I have shot a few and did not like the squeeze cocker and found the gas operating system a pain to maintain and with today's wide assortment of dirty ammo it would require regular cleaning. There area lot of small guns I would pick over that one but as I said, I am alone in my thoughts.

[boscobarbell]

Years ago when I was in the foreign service (Diplomatic Security), we all trained in S&W revolvers at the academy. B\ut once we got close to Special Agent accreditation, we were allowed to qualify in whatever pistol (of suitable caliber) that we wanted to carry overseas, with the caveat that we had to purchase/acquire that pistol ourselves. That part of training was a blast, because in a class of 48 trainees we had dozens of different types of weapons. We were encouraged to swap off with one another for cross-familiarization, and it was when I first got a chance to try out a 1911, a Browning Hi-Power, and a few others.

I had purchased a Glock 17, the only one in the class (in 1987) and everyone wanted to try out the new-fangled Tupperware gun. One of the guys interested in giving it a go came over and handed me his P7 (which I had never seen before). Damn...love at first sight. I loved how it looked, and liked how it shot even better. Sadly, I couldn't afford to buy one then, and still to this day can't seem to convince myself to fork over that much money for one.

But a man can dream.....

[grandmasterb]

That’s a very cool looking P7! I have some grips like that. https://images2.imgbox.com/a8/ba/xh5Ej4gv_o.jpeg

[Bawanna]

That's some mighty pretty wood on those. Never seen a stainless P7, I like that too.

[gb6491]

It might be my eyes, but it looks like hard chrome. Regardless of that, it's a good looking pistol.
Welcome to the forums grandmasterb:)

[boscobarbell]

It might be my eyes, but it looks like hard chrome. Regardless of that, it's a good looking pistol.
Welcome to the forums grandmasterb:)

That was my first thought as well.

I recently had my RM380 hard chromed, and the company's website showed a P7 as one of their previous jobs. Might not be the same pistol, but it sure looks like it.

[Bawanna]

I'm a real fan of chrome too, takes me right back to the 60's. If it don't go chrome it, but I bet that P7 goes just fine.

[grandmasterb]

It might be my eyes, but it looks like hard chrome. Regardless of that, it's a good looking pistol.
Welcome to the forums grandmasterb:)

Good eyes! It is hard chrome. Thanks for the welcome!

[finpro]

The only downfall I've heard was they get hot during long range sessions. Years ago my old favorite shop had one and the owner took it apart and showed me the workings. Definitely a different operating system but I liked it.
A local agency back then actually used them as an optional duty gun. Many loved them.
I've never shot one so no first hand experience but I want them all eventually so it's just one more on the list.

You are right about the heat issue, but you have understated it. For a time, I used my 1983 P7 USP in IDPA matches. After, say, 15 quick rounds, the front trigger guard area, next to the gas recoil apparatus, became extremely hot. You would not really want to shoot it with two hands and I thought it might melt a kydex holster, though it never did. I think this model was the earliest to be imported into the US. Later ones incorporated a heat shield, which should have been very helpful. It was about the length of a K9, but was heavier and very accurate. Accuracy was helped by the fixed barrel like a blowback pistol and it was very reliable due to the fact that the nearly vertical mag positioned the bullet directly behind the chamber making it impossible for the cartridge to move anywhere but straight forward into the chamber. I never experienced a failure to feed or extract. The P7 has an extractor, but it is basically to direct spent cartridges consistently. Apparently, the gas pushing back in the chamber would, by itself, extract the cartridge. Fired cartridges had unusual markings reflecting the gas vents. This P7 model had a grip heal mag release which needed both hands to release. Once squeeze cocked, the trigger was light and smooth and, as long as the squeeze cocker was held back, it did not have to be squeezed again.
The very complex design for the cocking mechanism and the fact it was German were the reasons it was so expensive. An interesting design, but we have really moved on.

[ripley16]

The P7 is measure for measure almost identical to a Kahr T9. Many similarities; same length and height, same 4" polygonal barrel, both carry 8 rounds in the magazine, striker fired, they weigh the same and no safety. Of course there are differences but both come from the same cloth.
The heat is something of an issue in long range sessions. I could get through all eight mags I had but at that point the gun was hot and I'd switch to another gun.
A neat feature of the P7 was that after a mag change all one need do is squeeze the grip to chamber and cock the pistol. No need to rack the slide, making it very fast to get back into action. The fluted chamber makes for a very reliable action.
https://i.postimg.cc/wxkKw7DN/P7-and-Kahr-004.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5jjk0979)

Neat cutaway of the P7
https://i.postimg.cc/mDtny6zY/cutaway-HK-P7.png (https://postimages.org/)

The fluted chamber makes for a very reliable action.
https://i.postimg.cc/vZY3vSC4/P7-CHAMBER.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[boscobarbell]

The P7 is measure for measure almost identical to a Kahr T9. Many similarities; same length and height, same 4" polygonal barrel, both carry 8 rounds in the magazine, striker fired, they weigh the same and no safety. Of course there are differences but both come from the same cloth.
The heat is something of an issue in long range sessions. I could get through all eight mags I had but at that point the gun was hot and I'd switch to another gun.
A neat feature of the P7 was that after a mag change all one need do is squeeze the grip to chamber and cock the pistol. No need to rack the slide, making it very fast to get back into action. The fluted chamber makes for a very reliable action.
https://i.postimg.cc/wxkKw7DN/P7-and-Kahr-004.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5jjk0979)

Neat cutaway of the P7
https://i.postimg.cc/mDtny6zY/cutaway-HK-P7.png (https://postimages.org/)

The fluted chamber makes for a very reliable action.
https://i.postimg.cc/vZY3vSC4/P7-CHAMBER.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Great info. Thanks.

[berettabone]

Great looking firearm............................also like the P9S sport in .45............................................... .............

[King Rat]

That’s a very cool looking P7! I have some grips like that. https://images2.imgbox.com/a8/ba/xh5Ej4gv_o.jpeg

Beauty for sure!