Preventing rust on K9? None yet but want to stay ahead + holster options

[rms2324]

Hi folks, K9 is at Kahr but I’ve been reading and I’ve seen in a number of threads about K9 rust. Should I be worried? Always wipe my guns down with oil, etc etc but beyond that, is there anything else I can do to prevent rust? Not a humid climate but will be carrying IWB.

Next was holsters, I’ve had good luck with the Vedder Lighttuck before. Carried a Glock 19 all the time which is 3-4 ounces heavier loaded than a K9, worked great with a good belt. Wanted recommendations

As always, thank you

[ripley16]

I use Eezox on all of my guns to keep the rust at bay. Eezox is a dry lube that also offers excellent rust protection. Makes the gun easier to clean to boot. The 4 oz. can will last a few years.
https://www.eezox.com/

[skiflydive]

Be sure to never clean your SS firearms with anything that's steel or been used to clean steel. Never use steel wool (duh) or any brushes or polishing rags that have been used on steel. The micro particles of steel that adhere to those items will embed in/on the stainless and it's typically those deposits that rust. ONLY use SS or non metallic brushes on SS, never steel wire brushes. Not all stainless grades are impervious to rust but I'm not sure what grade Kahr uses.

[berettabone]

I use Renissance Wax on my SS firearms to keep crap at bay.

[Canine Dave]

Cosmoline is your friend. Apply librally.

Are you sure we don't need an oil thread?

[BassCliff]

Hi,



Are you sure we don't need an oil thread?

Go ahead, I dare you. But you're asking for it! :p


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[getsome]

Oh why not, lube war threads are almost as much fun as caliber war fights....Everybody has a cleaning/lube product they think is the best but truth is it's not so much what you use but that you use it regularly and even if you haven't fired the weapon it's good to run a patch down the bore once a month or so if only for peace of mind.....

Just for BassCliff (Welcome to Kahrtalk by the way) here are the best gun cleaning products you can use because they are what I use....Bore cleaner, always Hoppe's cause it works and smells good...Lube, Slip 2000 because it works and well it's the best and it's what I use and for small internal parts I use a light penetrating spray lube and a fantastic over all wipe down product to prevent rust called MAXFILM Synthetic Penetrating Lubricant made by Royal Purple, goes on wet and dries to a protective dry finish and it smells good and guns love it....Get you some at Amazon...

If you haven't been there and want to know anything and everything you could possibly ever want to know related to motor oil, lubricants, grease, oil and air filters and God forbid, motor oil additives go over to this site, bobistheoilguy.com it's a great place to spend a hour or two at and has very good information about automobile motor oils and such but if you think we get into caliber wars over here, those guys are serious about brands and are ready to duke it out over which oil and filter is the best.......enjoy

[FreeMe]

Should you worry? Idunno - do you live near saltwater?

Neither my E-nickel, nor my stainless K9 have ever shown any rust - except on the grip screws. I don't live near saltwater, but I do sweat a lot. Why Kahr doesn't do better with those grip screws is a mystery to me, but it is a minor issue.

[Bawanna]

Funny, the MK9 my coworkers recovered from the bottom of Puget Sound after more than a month after being dropped by a deputy who dropped it and it's holster over the side while crabbing suffered no rust at all. It did apparently mess up the polygonal rifling, it wouldn't hit a paper plate at 3 yards. Replaced the barrel and it's a tack driver.

It did go from salt water directly into a bucket of oil where it stayed until we took it apart and cleaned it all up. Sent to Kahr for a check up and replaced all the springs in the gun. Still going strong. Heard the detective who ended up with it recently sold it so my grip model is gone.

[Sgt 127]

I have magical military grade corrosive sweat. I can wipe down stainless guns daily and still find little freckles of rust after a day of IWB carry.

I really don’t care. It’s just part of life.

But, I once found rust in the muzzle end of the barrel of my K9. Though I wiped off and lightly oiled the outside, I neglected the bore (other than routine cleaning). I would have thought sine there was nothing wearing the oil off, it would stay protected.

I was on vacation in Gulf Shores when I noticed it. An impromptu P cord pull through and some 3 in 1 oil I picked up at a hardware store solved the problem.

[Canine Dave]

I believe we have a budding oil thread here, just in time for the New Year! Great!

That said (I still love saying "that said"!) I would never use anything on my guns that I wouldn't use on my wristwatch, like 3-in-1. The makers of 3-in-1 advise against using it on anything except lawn mower wheels. I think I saw that on the internet.

[Bawanna]

I maintain that oil is basically oil, that being said (I don't get to use that often neither) I DO NOT use WD40 on anything I want to move for any extended period of time. Door hinges, perhaps lawn mower wheels or to get tar off your hands but never guns.
I also never ever and I mean never use Frog Lube. Prefer super glue to that stuff.

The main thing for me is regularly clean and re oil.

[dao]

I agree. Regular maintenance with a good oil, as needed. But also as importantly, in the case of anyone whose body chemistry is hard on guns, perhaps a different choice of holsters, to keep the gun from coming into contact with the body or clothing. For instance, N8Tactical (Now owned by Crossbreed), uses an impermeable liner between the suede that goes against your body and the leather that goes against the gun. Sweat cannot wick through and no part of the gun ever touches your clothing or your body. Well there are exceptions, according to the holster style you buy from them. Some have a combat cut that does allow the grip to make contact.

[berettabone]

I do the usual...............clean and re oil. I use grease on my rails.........................................I've been using Renaissance Wax now for a while on my SP101. About once every 3 weeks , I go over it again with the wax. So far, it's keeping everything at bay. Rust, fingerprints, etc. A little goes along way. A very good protectant for reasonable $$$$$$$$$.

[dustnchips]

WD-40 was not designed to lube anything..... Not even hinges. It is a penetrant designed to break frozen parts loose and it evaporates off of surfaces too quickly to be a lubricant. Try 3 in one on those hinges but grease would be better.

[getsome]

WD 40 was designed to remove water and moisture from automobile distributors, the WD stands for Water Displacement...WD 40 is such an outdated product I can’t believe it still sells but it does but should never be used on a firearm because over time after it dries it turns to gum and it would be much better to get some oil off your car dipstick than to use WD 40...There are many high quality synthetic lubricants designed for firearms that do the job so pick one and use it BUT don’t mix products as some don’t play well together at all....I found out by accident that CLP and Remoil when mixed turns to goo and I totally locked up a Smith 686 revolver mixing those two products which required removal of the side plate and a complete cleaning to get it unlocked....By themselves either product is ok, not great but if you mix them together you get glue...

[Planedude]

WD40 was developed for the original Atlas ICBM program. So, the stuff is more "rocket lube" than "gun oil". I agree, it will dry funny on a gun after some months, but here is a cute story line on WD40's history...

"...John S. Barry, the man "who masterminded the spread of WD-40," as The New York Times puts it, has died at age 84. The product he promoted is more popular than an iPod.

WD-40 can be found in 4 out of 5 American households, the company claims. Its ingredients are a secret, and it has generated its share of myths and strange applications over the years.
Barry didn't invent the stuff. "Norm Larsen, founder of Rocket Chemical Company, is considered the original founder of WD-40," according to wd40.com.
Larsen aimed to develop a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry. He succeeded at the goal, Water Displacement, on the 40th attempt, hence the name.
"Convair, an aerospace contractor, first used WD-40 to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion," according to the web site.


A few years later the company made an aerosol spray version and the rest, as they say, is history.

WD-40 does not contain fish oil, contrary to a popular myth, nor does it contain silicone, kerosene, water, wax, graphite, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).

And WD-40 won't cure arthritis (https://www.livescience.com/5125-common-dietary-supplements-arthritis.html), despite another odd myth (Windex, however, cures everything, if you believe the Dad in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding").

It has been put to these uses, the company says: A bus driver in Asia used WD-40 to remove a python, which had coiled itself around the undercarriage of his bus; police officers used WD-40 to remove a naked burglar trapped in an air conditioning vent.

The product has never needed a Billy Mays; as the ShamWow guy might say, WD-40 sells itself. I'll certainly vouch for it, having once owned a '56 Ford pickup and later a '66 Mustang, neither of which could not be worked on without a squirt here and there to loosen rusty old nuts and screws.
The company also says it'll remove gum. I have an 8-year-old, and a pair of reading glasses sitting in the back seat of the car, on which to test that later today..."

We have a "throwback Thursday" story each week on the Lockheed web site and I was reminded of that funny bit of Convair history right before this years Christmas break started.

Soooo... if you need to keep your Atlas wet, lubed and ready in your favorite silo, use WD40. If the subbie you keep in your pants keeps rusting, use a different product. 😉

peace

[getsome]

That's quite interesting, I did have an uncle who swore that WD40 sprayed on his knees helped his arthritis but I'm pretty sure it was that quart of Jim Beam he kept out in his work shed that did the trick.....

[Bawanna]

I know a lot of guys spray WD on their bait to catch trout and such.

[berettabone]

I've done/tried it myself. Not too many times, but it did work on occasion. It didn't seem to work spraying it on live bait, but on lures. Large mouth bass and Northern. Sometimes it works. Or was it the lure/bait I was using???? Just like any of the gazzillion gadgets out there. If you use them enough, they'll usually work at least once. Maybe. It can mess up a lure also.............................................. ..............:)