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BassCliff

12-08-2020, 12:33 PM

Greetings Patriots!

Last Saturday Mrs. BassCliff took her brand new Kahr CW9 to the range for a training session with our instructor. We were learning to draw from holsters and win in a close quarters gun fight. It was a ton of fun! At one point during all the action my wife noticed something different about her gun. It turns out the front site was missing. I don't know if it just came loose and thrown by the recoil or if it was broken off by the holster. We looked but could not find it in the dirt. Here's the pulchritudinous Mrs. BassCliff thoroughly enjoying her new CW9 despite the missing front sight.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fXW6POW8bkuBeRlgsMkp76xd_sOJFk3Z3SiqITTJYJCdicUqS 8IG1pVx3SAfTICFyG7-9D9BZ5TgxTuUR3i3EoUbYDULm7btqcIykv0M8Vc-zEivLgNb2o44oBDTRMHlqfAjamWqhdAXqYyt_Wgzk7Qg=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

It broke off cleanly. When cleaning the gun later I removed the last bits of plastic under the slide. I learned that to remove these sight you just break them off anyway. Installation uses Locktite and a tool to spread the end of the posts when you reinstall.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e5DvYYnpqPinFWhLSn8WWTA891wAK5DIur0Z1os8RIEuXVEYA _X-VlDIovhL5G4gHWS6dLAkvJoZ_IIHFCGV-ZgeiQSiKMJ0ZNR5NaUsQvm7KAUb-z5XQGYT-kEimzWz8dERZtMGlwJnYKZvLpsK0Zsw=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

I called Kahr tech support yesterday and spoke to a very pleasant young lady, Julia, who was ever so helpful. No questions asked she offered to send a new stock front sight right away. As wonderful as that was, I also asked her about an upgraded front sight, possibly trijicon. She said that they no longer offer the trijicon sights for the CW series but the fiber optic front sight was still available. I asked if she would send the front sight along and I'd be happy to purchase the upgraded fiber optic sight. (That way I'll have a spare if something breaks again.) Julia, bless her heart, said to go ahead and order the new sight, put a note on the order to her attention, and she would ship them both together with no shipping costs to me since she was sending the replacement stock sight under warranty. I thought that was really outstanding. Kudos to Kahr service! :D

Do you guys post range reports on the forum somewhere? Do you like sharing the fun like that? Just curious.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

gb6491

12-09-2020, 12:15 PM

BassCliff,
That's an excellent photo of your Missus, thanks for sharing it:)
I think you did good upgrading the CW9's front sight. The plastic is long gone from CW9.

I don't have any range photos of my sweetie, but here's a video of her shooting a PMR30 (otherwise she prefers her Colt Mustang XSP):
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Regards,
Greg

BassCliff

12-09-2020, 06:41 PM

Hi Greg,

BassCliff,
That's an excellent photo of your Missus, thanks for sharing it:)
I think you did good upgrading the CW9's front sight. The plastic is long gone from CW9.

I don't have any range photos of my sweetie, but here's a video of her shooting a PMR30 (otherwise she prefers her Colt Mustang XSP):
0DwQP9ezgLs
Regards,
Greg

Thank you for the warm welcome. Please call me Cliff. Yes, I'm looking forward to hearing how much Mrs. BassCliff enjoys her new front sight. We'll also practice with her holster more so the new sight doesn't get broken. I'm hoping the fiber optic sight is not plastic. I imagine I'll have to replace the fiber cable itself periodically. Dang, I don't think I have a butane lighter.

Hey! That seems like a big gun for such a petite gal, but she handles it well. OH, I see! She must've been shooting the .22 magnums. There's lots of BANG! there. ;) My youngest daughter will be getting a combo .22LR/.22Mag revolver as a late Christmas present, a Heritage Rough Rider. She's shot Buckmarks for training but I figured for "her" first gun we'd go with the single action revolver.

Where do you guys post your range reports around here?

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Armybrat

12-09-2020, 07:46 PM

Lovely wife, lucky guy. My wife of 53 years doesn't like guns and has never fired one.
Oh well, at least she tolerates my hobby. She didn’t even mind when I took our visiting English lady friend to the local range.

getsome

12-09-2020, 10:23 PM

My wife of 44 years doesn't care for guns or the shooting sports much either....Last year before the China virus happened we went as a family to the local range on the weekend so my oldest son could shoot and sight in his AR 15 and I brought a bunch of target pistols to shoot and when my wife's turn to shoot came up I gave her my Smith 586 revolver loaded with .38 powder puff loads to see what she could do thinking, this is going to be funny, well it wasn't funny when she started drilling the target at 20 foot or so.....I decided right then and there to double down on securing that gun thinking maybe just in case I should happen to come in late some night with no excuse I might be safer.....Lesson here fellows is, maybe it's not a really good idea to teach them to shoot, if you know what I mean....

Bawanna

12-09-2020, 10:30 PM

My best girl guarding the armory.

https://i.postimg.cc/xTQF9B0D/Age-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/s1nJc6Qw)

Bawanna

12-09-2020, 10:34 PM

And my trophy wife in the back yard.
https://i.postimg.cc/c1np3qCp/DSCN8117.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MXz3kFy5)

https://i.postimg.cc/nh2bLvrM/DSCN8107.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Jssd6HbW)

getsome

12-10-2020, 12:09 AM

Sleep well my friend, your family has your back and the little one which you are very blessed to have should not be trifled with, you can see it in her eyes and you have taught her well......

topgun1953

12-10-2020, 09:10 AM

Nice pictures gentlemen! I need to find a "trophy wife" . ;)

yqtszhj

12-11-2020, 10:22 AM

Gebe

12-24-2020, 09:03 PM

Same exact thing happened to me with my brand new CW9 the first time shooting it. It wasn’t a holster problem. The front sight just flew off from recoil shooting the second magazine. Kahr sent a replacement right out and I epoxied it on and no more problems. Seems like a common problem with them. Should have asked for an upgrade. :D

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 05:58 PM

Hi,

What holster is that she’s wearing? I like the inside belt - outside waistband idea but never have been able to get it to work for me.

I got us a couple of Alien Gear holsters to start with. Hers is IWB (Cloak Tuck) and mine is OWB (Cloak Belt). We'll use them as long as we like them. I'm thinking of getting an IWB if I get my CCW. We've just been practicing with them at the range since neither one of us can carry legally yet.

This is mine:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cO6S9_I4lhWtL-gn8lSeBEIzj5iJCxFFtJn6-EB8FuElEjR7sIYrLLzK1wHf7ySRu8onGVAj_iO4AXBlXR8WeMG yMICZlDn1uBxJNmPKke-aNNp8VnVN7tyI7C0WYrW15h7ADaCXzhvSYd7XvdSliNyQ=w110 2-h826-no?authuser=0

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cnPzMtNKeqWQhqAsj3g0QuguO3zxTSCVPOJgIMmOLHhc6hcCr n9yxxDoqHQL-j1v1-bjGVcjcpujisFTaAWV1VPoQGRALfH3TANmxAKjWUPjmuRw73rz PeLd_onRryB6qKfoki8xpjQ6mFX8xQ--iFkw=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

It doesn't seem to print, much. It's a really thin shirt. ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cs-YGBfSdkRd6GgXhEP3YZWzmSXLpRdUgpWZ1rc1_3n5BqO6W5tDR OyuT_sGPVkhNn74M85S6ymTExPCuv3XyrkPTOYkQ2mh4Pw8iyH 6jDqBgKV51BBHGNfcYFTlVkC9pCkx7V7JGQX1vAmZ7PqvqAKA= w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 06:00 PM

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 06:05 PM

Hi,

Lovely wife, lucky guy. My wife of 53 years doesn't like guns and has never fired one.
Oh well, at least she tolerates my hobby. She didn’t even mind when I took our visiting English lady friend to the local range.

Thank you! Mrs. BassCliff just surprised me one day and said, "The world is getting too crazy. I'd like to get a gun and learn how to defend our home." I started buying pistols two weeks later. Now all three of us have a pistol, myself, wife, daughter. Mrs. BassCliff isn't really into "the gun thing" as in a hobby or avocation. She just wants one for self defense. I'd still like to add a couple more pistols, a rifle, and a shotgun to our little armory. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 06:08 PM

Hi,

My wife of 44 years doesn't care for guns or the shooting sports much either....Last year before the China virus happened we went as a family to the local range on the weekend so my oldest son could shoot and sight in his AR 15 and I brought a bunch of target pistols to shoot and when my wife's turn to shoot came up I gave her my Smith 586 revolver loaded with .38 powder puff loads to see what she could do thinking, this is going to be funny, well it wasn't funny when she started drilling the target at 20 foot or so.....I decided right then and there to double down on securing that gun thinking maybe just in case I should happen to come in late some night with no excuse I might be safer.....Lesson here fellows is, maybe it's not a really good idea to teach them to shoot, if you know what I mean....

Mrs. BassCliff is as good a marksman as I am but needs more practice on the procedures and mechanics. She does keep her CW9 on the nightstand with a couple of loaded mags. I tend to come home a lot more sober these days. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 06:14 PM

Hi,

My best girl guarding the armory.

https://i.postimg.cc/xTQF9B0D/Age-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/s1nJc6Qw)

Precious! Our youngest daughter (21) is still at home. We will get her pistol out of "gun jail" on Friday. Then I'll take her to the range with it ASAP.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dyW4RQsr9twgQg63iy90n6hkvcCeBEPPLdZJmnqdc3tAhbE27 uxQpd_G7M2GxlVkd8N4iYZPH9WuW5CW3vbqWRS1EbzXn1uhO1D zEalSBZyhp7NUocnd253g4IvsQzo_Ld31oFfmH0zI21wTQK8MN _8w=w870-h683-no?authuser=0

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-04-2021, 06:16 PM

Hi,

And my trophy wife in the back yard.
https://i.postimg.cc/c1np3qCp/DSCN8117.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MXz3kFy5)

https://i.postimg.cc/nh2bLvrM/DSCN8107.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Jssd6HbW)

Excellent! You are blessed with a beautiful wife. I'm hoping to get Mrs. BassCliff interested in long guns too.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-08-2021, 02:33 PM

Hi,

Same exact thing happened to me with my brand new CW9 the first time shooting it. It wasn’t a holster problem. The front sight just flew off from recoil shooting the second magazine. Kahr sent a replacement right out and I epoxied it on and no more problems. Seems like a common problem with them. Should have asked for an upgrade.

I just wanted to bring my little story full circle. Kahr was kind enough to send a stock sight replacement under warranty plus I ordered one of their Dawson fiber optic sights for this pistol. We'll blame the long shipping time on the covid complications and extra holiday shipping traffic. They arrived this past Wednesday and I got busy gunsmithing again.

This is where I started. Mrs. BassCliff's brand new CW9, which I promptly took apart, cleaned, installed a Wolff trigger spring and an MCARBO stainless steel striker spring guide to replace the plastic part.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dSQPf_79oz0CocJuDpOhKcXvqdhjOgeJ5FdzxXIjQkWR8H1YL 17nS4cXMcL0S1Pqel_7n5_SDdk2AzoyTR_v2ngjDqldMyMtxiW 2_FGfxRJ_zLV-xSQIB-_7I-JF_Zg9zdVXrirUCElqCLfDRuejOSxA=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

After Mrs. BassCliff's first day at the range, she didn't eve let me shoot it, the stock sigh was broken off. I think she knocked it off with her holster. It was her first time using a holster.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e5DvYYnpqPinFWhLSn8WWTA891wAK5DIur0Z1os8RIEuXVEYA _X-VlDIovhL5G4gHWS6dLAkvJoZ_IIHFCGV-ZgeiQSiKMJ0ZNR5NaUsQvm7KAUb-z5XQGYT-kEimzWz8dERZtMGlwJnYKZvLpsK0Zsw=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Oh boy! I'm ready to fix stuff! The new stock sight is there on the left. I'll keep it for a spare just in case. Instead of epoxy I went with the suggested red thread locker. The upgraded fiber optic sight came with a spreader punch tool. Cool.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fKbUns4R_27f9rN_lgWp06A6IRJw3IQBIbZ95x8ZJZNaRqUuh evYXbReF7YpksOfl0sROZOn6Jm9MFqCcIC4fyQ0Ng6rpw1srG9 ZJztLDxmeVQBARElvHhAfWSnF6gvpF3wuXxuIrI2Xop73jcDFd YbA=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

I put a drop in each hole and coated the underside of the sight, placed it, and admired it while I let it dry for a while.

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Ooooo! Ain't it purdy? I love how the fiber picks up the light and makes the dot glow. Since I didn't have a vice I used a couple of pieces of wood to support the base of the sight and not put any pressure on the top of the sight while I used the spreader punch. These are a couple of paint stirrer sticks from Home Depot, good straight edges and just the right height.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cpv_Nf1NB9J1g1uKsxdIwz1gpX1mt1E_aQERZX-1pVcV7_jYd5aejFKwuDvPj5wd9nT6ardpHjHUNSce89lOBxmcu iKJSbBFhEF39JkgxTxZ50jQJ0vA_plo2nsfsvLbflnj-3_m5DO-ZCs4GNMMJyNg=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Then I just inserted the "crooked" spreader punch thorough the muzzle opening, then around the other side for the rear post, and gave the bottom of the posts a few good taps. It doesn't take a lot.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eLwLddTnt4K1yX0Ulk6MhTxleQm0y6m5EV-To_tRKYqPPVG8O-R_wVrMMFAH6kxZzerTPapxISPrjprHOeyNYZUEu30Cyo8iYKSD e-H7mwi1vRIDKuuM-62QZ6m7E6Uvir4Ob7Yza2PWvDOQF7EuHfZQ=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

What? Only eight pictures per post? I'll be back to finish up this job. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-08-2021, 02:34 PM

Hi,

To continue:

I inspected all around the sight to make sure it was seated securely. You don't want any space between the slide and the sight. Otherwise you'd have to carefully tap the top of the sight to make it flush.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f4p3a7SA48jFypJ2ApJq0KI1P6RwzpwBYVOgDHBoR-34jmKY0g0_Iz3B1c12eAFkbbxcN6_fc8MEdmKP5seQ-_PNU6NvXamUAe22Tn-PFuvSLJOG0JEW_WAVPe1SsUoBl9XdIJiUssGZkIgzZQfQMJ9Q= w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Here's the side view. Looks good!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fH--yO_znEHxDwEOeEJmaRiHhokbhRckRNn5ag3nOmWvkx_IlmVmni euAwIEr7pq2FSr3m31VRIGp5wNdhGqcykURMbdxZfcszQfXMWD uvjO2jJNL_6fcJ0VVAn-QELJncMhmc0vrxV8imgv69c3tCJA=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

And the front view. I'm ready to reassemble this pistol.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dGwIFomn2s6bQ70AFCGsY13Tqvks2TAgzyRa3uK1tK624g5Kc 3Vy7PuYYaOEXxzGIFzpJcDhGth5sNqI_rY9NNr_1C0OkiuQCQb H9fQiMrw7DNPUKGWYCcPobKFC3WlC-WLbKUTUT7do3T20Vty0Q_aw=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

I went to a neutral colored wall to check out the new sight picture.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fi9nochadnE73cd_7GW35prNFEzlV0sY_FlQz5p7EKzn9-b4uXSm13mtQim4elhULU_dYqOtlSpYLgGSfgawWCkXhJgrRTXA 22X5-iK2TIGE04Nip_RJEY9-d-i8B9SJHariZDaO8YGNARXvvxyco4Sw=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Even with the indoor lighting the red fiber dot shows up. Cool.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dVpiiJn_JZkhYwK9nc3CeyNrk0BpuK0cwUbbQ1C1F1YeveEr8 wedPLoCt0ye72t98f1MRZWppByUA5NCM0mu1v0AqFEEMtagSGA hllSOphCtnqwie8r7-mxA4PmqksSaf-KSHKALt_OZoGEbYj-vXFVQ=w1102-h826-no?authuser=0

Let's take a little closer look at the new sight picture.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cfTJtqxUWrJlSzf6_4a_4w8mHvmC6SAjKVjPRbRQDYVYoYUTT mZPudwlizmEEKm26XkorlaXhW0xKL5Zu3mIUaAt1-c0DdOIPiDLrfbcmMyk2JgLdWxMxQGSYXF-zzpBO2tGZ4rO_Ph2kcoYHuHCWoGg=w1200-h714-no?authuser=0

And there you have it. When Mrs. BassCliff practiced her sight picture she was really impressed. I can't wait to get out to the range for some live fire practice. Maybe she'll let me shoot it this time. :rolleyes:

My thanks to Julia at Kahr for combining the order so it didn't cost me anything for shipping, just for the new sight. Now I have an extra stock sight too, just in case.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Ken L

01-08-2021, 04:43 PM

Awesome. Thanks for the update. That sight looks great; I've been considering one for my CW40. Most of my other pistols have red fiber optic front sights, with the exception of my Glock which has green. Like the sight picture a lot, thanks for the photos!

BassCliff

01-08-2021, 07:05 PM

Hi,

Awesome. Thanks for the update. That sight looks great; I've been considering one for my CW40. Most of my other pistols have red fiber optic front sights, with the exception of my Glock which has green. Like the sight picture a lot, thanks for the photos!

You're welcome! Yes, I really like that sight too. I hope it doesn't get broken. It came with a couple of extra fibers but I might have to buy a cigar lighter to install one properly. I don't know if a cigarette lighter would work. I don't smoke cigarettes but I do smoke about one cigar a year. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Bawanna

01-08-2021, 08:46 PM

It doesn't take much heat at all, a match will do it just fine.

BassCliff

01-08-2021, 11:03 PM

Hi,

It doesn't take much heat at all, a match will do it just fine.

Thanks! Very good. I had read an installation instruction sheet that mentioned using a cigar lighter. It's good to know that much heat is not required.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Gebe

01-09-2021, 04:51 PM

Nice job BassCliff and great pictures!

How do you like the Wolff trigger spring? Did it make a difference from stock? I really like the stock, smooth trigger pull on these pistols even though they have quite a bit of take up.

BassCliff

01-09-2021, 07:05 PM

Hi,

Nice job BassCliff and great pictures!

How do you like the Wolff trigger spring? Did it make a difference from stock? I really like the stock, smooth trigger pull on these pistols even though they have quite a bit of take up.

Thanks! I love spewing electrons all over the internet. ;)

I haven't actually shot this pistol yet. I need to ask Mrs. BassCliff nicely. :D Originally I had bought the Wolff spring (~5lbs) and the MCARBO spring kit (~4lbs) because I knew the stock ~6lbs trigger pull would not be comfortable for her. Mrs. BassCliff loves her CW9, especially now with the new front sight. I have done some dry fire practice with it and the trigger seems to have a long, steady, smooth pull. The trigger reset is almost all the way out but she doesn't mind. We'll get to the range soon so she can try out her new front sight. Maybe if I ask nice she'll let me shoot it too. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

01-31-2021, 04:30 AM

Hi,

Nice job BassCliff and great pictures!

How do you like the Wolff trigger spring? Did it make a difference from stock? I really like the stock, smooth trigger pull on these pistols even though they have quite a bit of take up.

I finally got around to shooting a couple hundred rounds through Mrs. BassCliff's CW9. The Wolff spring makes the trigger just a little lighter. It's still a long, smooth pull even after "the wall" where it resets. It's that DAO system. I'm not a big fan of the trigger but Mrs. BassCliff likes it. The new front sight seemed to be accurate when that long trigger pull didn't mess me up. It takes some getting used to. I'm so used to my XD9 that it's going to take me a couple hundred more rounds to really get comfortable with the CW9. If you'd like to have a look at my latest range day you can find it HERE (https://www.***********/threads/basscliffs-8th-range-report-1-30-2021-rmr.451692/#post-7960364). I hope you don't mind that I didn't duplicate the whole thread here. :)

Well, dang! I guess I can't post a link to an outside forum here. Sorry.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

gb6491

01-31-2021, 11:16 AM

Hi,

I finally got around to shooting a couple hundred rounds through Mrs. BassCliff's CW9. The Wolff spring makes the trigger just a little lighter. It's still a long, smooth pull even after "the wall" where it resets. It's that DAO system. I'm not a big fan of the trigger but Mrs. BassCliff likes it. The new front sight seemed to be accurate when that long trigger pull didn't mess me up. It takes some getting used to. I'm so used to my XD9 that it's going to take me a couple hundred more rounds to really get comfortable with the CW9. If you'd like to have a look at my latest range day you can find it HERE (https://www.***********/threads/basscliffs-8th-range-report-1-30-2021-rmr.451692/#post-7960364). I hope you don't mind that I didn't duplicate the whole thread here. :)

Well, dang! I guess I can't post a link to an outside forum here. Sorry.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
XD Talk is one of a group of forums (I believe it's actually only one other forum) that you can't link to here. Most other forums are fine.
I read your report and found it interesting. i think others here might as well; please do copy and paste it here.
Regards,
Greg

BassCliff

02-03-2021, 06:51 PM

Hi Greg,

XD Talk is one of a group of forums (I believe it's actually only one other forum) that you can't link to here. Most other forums are fine.
I read your report and found it interesting. i think others here might as well; please do copy and paste it here.
Regards,
Greg

Let's see if I can copy and paste the whole post from the "other" forum......

It was quite a workout today at Burro Canyon Shooting Park (http://burrocanyon.com/) in the canyons above the lovely city of Azuza. The fetching Mrs. BassCliff and I loaded up our kit and headed out for an 8am shoot-em-up.

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This is the access road up to the shooting park. We are really climbing up switchbacks to get to the range.

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It looks like there will be two other students beside the missus and me here at Range 6A.

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Jacob chats with the other students while the other instructors discuss the airspeed of an unladen swallow. We actually had to chase some birds away from the range so that we did not hit any wildlife today.

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BassCliff has his ears on his knee but at least his eyes are on the right place.

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I picked up another 500 rounds this morning. We ended up shooting almost 300 today. We signed the paperwork.

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The fetching Mrs. BassCliff and I are ready for our training. Today we are leaning to draw from a holster, then on to close quarters gunfight training. It was fun!

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We bring our pistols to the line still locked up. There's still a lot of safety stuff to talk about and brush up on. Our instructor is very thorough.

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Only 8 pictures and 10K characters. I'll continue in the next post.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

02-03-2021, 06:52 PM

Hi,

Continued from previous post.....

The other two students were just starting out. But we listened to Jacob tell his stories all over again.

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The big guy there is another instructor helping out today. He introduces Mrs. BassCliff to the Uplula. I think I'll get her one of those for our anniversary.

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My dear wife is having a ton of fun putting holes in the paper and learning to "chest, grip, pull, rotate, join, extend, fire". It's quite a process learning to draw properly.

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This guy thinks he's a cowboy.

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Our first drawing drills were single shots to the dots (or in between) as commanded by our instructor. Jacob stressed that this wasn't really marksmanship training. We were learning to draw smoothly and win a gunfight.

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After the dot drills we got fresh targets for a new drill.

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This was a triple tap drill with two in center mass and one in the head. We also used non-full magazines, a different number of bullets in each of our four mags, so that we could practice "fixing" our gun if the ammo ran out in the middle of our drills.

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After that drill the range went cold so we could get set up for the next drill. Jacob would introduce some movement while firing at our targets.

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I'll finish it up in the next post. I promise.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BassCliff

02-03-2021, 06:52 PM

Hi,

One more post from Range Report #5.....

Mrs. BassCliff pays attention while her husband takes pictures. Jacob was explaining how to fire from retention. Chest, grip, pull, rotate, FIRE! Sometimes you won't have time to extend and take good aim at your target.

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The drill called for a triple tap. Two shots from retention, as quickly as possible, then join, extend, and put one in the head.

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We also ran though double target drills, added some movement, just a step or two in either direction depending on which target you were shooting at. The targets were close, only five or six feet away, to simulate close quarters combat. It was a lot to remember but it was a TON of fun! Next month we'll review and then move on to other tactical defense skills like drawing from concealed and weak hand shooting.

The only downside today was when Mrs. BassCliff noticed that her front sight had fallen off. I don't know if it came loose and got thrown from recoil or if she knocked it off with her holster but we couldn't find it. I've emailed Kahr just in case they will send one under warranty. This is the fist time this gun has been to the range. If not, they are less than ten bucks for the stock front sight. Maybe I'll take this opportunity to upgrade her sights.

This is the range where Jacob trains his Women On Target group. He also trains young women at a range in Arizona.

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We had a great morning at the range, learned a lot, but now it's time to say goodbye.

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We have a lot to practice with at home using our snap caps. I must call Kahr on Monday and see about warranty coverage for that broken sight. It looks like the screws just loosened up and the sight fell off. Odd. My XD was flawless today and Mrs. BassCliff did great racking the slide and swapping magazines on the fly. I guess I'll clean these guns tomorrow, haven't had the opportunity this evening and now it's time to say good night. Thanks for coming along with us.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Canine Dave

02-04-2021, 01:18 PM

Thanks for sharing all that! You guys are lucky having a great outdoors place to shoot.

Looks like a great time.

BassCliff

02-05-2021, 01:00 AM

Hi,

Thanks for sharing all that! You guys are lucky having a great outdoors place to shoot.

Looks like a great time.

You are quite welcome. I have a couple other indoor range reports featuring the CW9 and my other pistols. I should post those here too, if you don't mind. ;)

We don't have another training session scheduled until March 20th. But if I can find more ammo we might get out for some practice before then.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Canine Dave

02-05-2021, 08:29 AM

Let's see 'em!

I belong to a couple of local outdoor ranges, but the weather lately has not been too good here for using them. Frigid temps this weekend is hard on an old guy.

Dave

BassCliff

02-06-2021, 05:45 PM

Hi,

Let's see 'em!

I belong to a couple of local outdoor ranges, but the weather lately has not been too good here for using them. Frigid temps this weekend is hard on an old guy.

Dave

Here's a range report featuring the Kahr: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?33784-BassCliff-s-7th-Range-Report-1-23-2021

I've got another from last Saturday. I'll post it up too. ;)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff