Yesterday at my local Scheels

[340pd]

I am seeing a small amount of various calibers on their shelf (Scheels, MN) every time I stop by. I do not know when they put it on the shelf but nobody was there drooling. The price on the 45 is up by $10/bx compared to 6 weeks ago. 10¢/rd for 22lr was priced like their CCI std. velocity that was available about three weeks ago. They also had LLP 200/per sale and I did not ask the price but I bought some about three weeks ago for $3.49/hundred.
I left everything for others as I have plenty.

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[Ken L]

Most of what I see in the sporting goods stores are --pistol caliber--460 S&W and 500 S&W. Rifle--6mm Creedmoor, 350 Legend, 300 WSM, 338 Win Mag, 458 Win Mag and some oddball safari rounds like 9.3x74. I just look for anything usable for me; I do have a 300 WSM but handload for that and I'm all set on brass, primers, bullets and powder. I've been reluctant to shoot anything, in spite of the ammo industry people saying that we should shoot because they're making all they can. They're just not catching up with the demand.

[Bawanna]

Even if they do catch up with demand which probably won't happen anytime soon, I'm not paying gouger prices.

I've got plenty of brass and plenty of bullets for 45, a good stock of 223 and 30-06 and even 9mm. I have zero bullets for 9. My old department said they have some brass so if I can ever find more powder and primers I'll be set. I can't even find black powder, thought I'd dust off the old smoke pole and have it ready.

Course after the loss of all my firearms due to the sink hole (still painful to think about) I guess I have no need for reloading components, even the press went down with the rest of it.

[BassCliff]

Hi,

It's been catch as catch can around here. I buy at a couple of LGS, one that gets their shipment on Monday, the other on Thursday. I have to get there as early as possible and stand in line. If you get there too late, say 1pm, they will usually be sold out. There are always limits, two or three boxes at a time if you're lucky. But I try to go consistently and have built up almost 2000 rounds in the last few months. Now I can miss a week once in a while, buy to replace what I shoot at the range, and keep my inventory just in case SHTF.

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Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[AJBert]

Its not if, but when the SHTF I'm afraid.

[wyntrout]

The only thing that I'm short on is .380 defensive ammo. And that's because I decided to not get any more +P Gold Dots because I don't shoot them as well any more.

I would like to switch to Critical Defense FTX but the only return text I've had is from an outfit in Canada and their voice answering service starts with "we don't ship to the USA". Bummer.

Optics Planet doesn't HAVE any, but they let me put in back orders. I've done two for ten boxes each and hope something comes my way. Their WAG was February 5, so I'll see. I dragged my feet too long in replacing what I was using up.

After the 8 or so mags of 6 or 7 rounds of the Underwood +P GD's are gone... with no practice for over a year, I may look at taking a drill to my plentiful FMJ. :D

I've been to a couple of gun shows carrying a bunch of Gold Dots in 9mm, .40, and .45, hoping to make a trade or sell some. No one has the Critical Defense .380, and if they did, it would 3 times what I would pay!

It's not my primary EDC, though... just the one I wear around the house and on outings where I need MAXIMUM concealment... as in doctors appointments and the like. <sigh>

[340pd]

I have a local Streicher's which is a police supply outlet and they are usually a good source for SD ammo of all calibers. In March when this thing just started bubbling up, I stopped by and bought a couple 50rd boxes of every caliber I own. None of them cost more than $24/bx of 50 rds..
You may go to their website and get lucky with 380.
Personally if I have 50rds of a proven performer SD rounds in each caliber, I am hopefully set for life.

[Bawanna]

There's plenty of logic in that especially in defense ammo. I'll probably be taken out long before the first 50 rounds are used. Using that logic I'm in very good shape, and even practice ammo is plentiful, it's only the fact that it may never be replaced that I find worrisome.

I don't shoot nearly as much as I'd like to anymore but seem to do just fine when I do. I'm still prepping all the cases I have. Getting them ready for whatever.

[Armybrat]

I’m glad I stocked up with 700 rounds of Federal ..327 Magnum last year, along with 300 of S&W .32 Long for my two .327 revolvers. Haven’t shot any of it yet.

In fact I didn’t shoot one round of any caliber last year except for a single BB through this Daisy 880 to run off an annoying squirrel in the back yard:

[340pd]

Scheels in Eden Prairie, MN is located in a mall and with temps well below zero and ice in the streets I walk my four miles inside so cutting through Scheels is just part of my winters day. I need no ammo but I do text customers that do so...
Yesterday they had a few boxes of CCI Velocitor 22lr at $6.99/bx 50. Pricey stuff. Gone today.
Today we had a fair amount of 44Mag @$44.99/bx/50, 357Sig @ $54.99/box/50, and 380 @ $24.99/bx/50.
17390

[340pd]

Today at my local Scheels they solved the empty shelves in the handgun aisle by moving the signs around and replacing them with shotgun shells. The entire handgun ammo section is two feet of empty shelf.

[Bawanna]

Not even many shotgun shells around these parts. It's crazy, one would think we'd start to see a bit more, but I guess with Sleepy Joe (I gotta change my name) threatening an executive order on gun control maybe it'll be awhile.

[getsome]

Be glad you have a Scheels, In Atlanta we have Academy Sports and Bass Pro and both aren’t close to me....There is a Dick’s Sporting Goods right down the street but since they wimped out and stopped selling anything gun or hunting related I wouldn’t shop there if everything was free and they paid me to come in......I was at Academy before Christmas to pick up some gifts and the ammo shelves were totally empty....My son keeps asking me, dad when are we going to the range again and I just say, when ammo is available if ever.......This sucks

Had to edit this post after I thought about it a while and what the real problem is here......America is a Free Enterprise market based economy.....In our past if there was a market for a product that people needed and wanted to buy the entrepreneurs of the day found a way to provide them with it so as to profit from their gamble.....Today there is a huge market for ammunition and there are machines, factory space and employees needing to work so as to provide the market with this product so what’s changed, well no company today is willing to venture into the ammunition production business for fear of being shut down by Government decree and or Executive Order......It’s a losing proposition when Big Gov puts their hand on the neck of business and starts to control what was once a free economy........

[Bawanna]

Exactly weedhopper. You've snatched the pebble from my hand. It's time for you to go.

[Canine Dave]

Here's what the Big Guy at Federal says about all that...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=federal+ammunition+you+tube+shortage&docid=608022951556481138&mid=BE8AD8FDA22BD217D142BE8AD8FDA22BD217D142&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Hornady has a video too.

We know it's not just ammo. Can't find primers nor powder. Prices of anything related to reloading is out of sight. Look at Bud's and see how many "out of stock" guns you see. "Selling out of an empty cart" comes to mind.

I won't blame anyone for not tooling up and hireing into this demand. I think I recall being here before.
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[BirdsThaWord]

Some of these responses have me in a Zen like state, but.... It is terrible around here, but I’ve managed to get what I need by hitting Academy on either a Monday, Wednesday or Friday morning (when they supposedly get deliveries) when they open. Usually 3-6 people there waiting as well. There are 3 of them, in kind of a triangle, located around me. I start at one, hall butt to the next and then to the last. About an hour and a half journey to hit all 3, so it is not effortless. Once, I drove to the first 2 with no luck, then scored 2 boxes of 200 rounds of 9mm at the last one. They are the only one’s I can find who have not jacked up their prices. Those 200 round boxes (cheap, range grade, laquer coated) were $49 ea. and I then used a $10 off coupon they mailed me. 2 boxes max allowed. So, pretty darn cheap. Sometimes they have a little better grade stuff at about $18-$19 for 50 rounds. They also have CCI Mini Mags in the 100 round cases for $9, so I’ve gotten a lot of that. Those rounds seem to come in more than any of the other rounds. Even during all of what’s going on, I’ve been able to stock up on all of my calibers by doing this, without paying too much. At the beginning of the scamdemic lockdowns, I scored a bunch of 38, 357 and 45 by posting an ad on Florida Gun Trader. Guy sold me everything he had (quite a bit) for $15 per 50!!! By being patient, but putting in a little effort, I have plenty enough that I can have a few range sessions here and there without worry, and cheap enough so that if they ever catch up on supply/demand that I’m not sitting on a bunch of over priced stuff.

[BirdsThaWord]

Correction, the 357 boxes are all defense rounds in 20 per box. But, $15 is/was still a great price.

[Canine Dave]

Some of these responses have me in a Zen like state, but.... It is terrible around here, but I’ve managed to get what I need by hitting Academy on either a Monday, Wednesday or Friday morning (when they supposedly get deliveries) when they open. Usually 3-6 people there waiting as well. There are 3 of them, in kind of a triangle, located around me. I start at one, hall butt to the next and then to the last. About an hour and a half journey to hit all 3, so it is not effortless. Once, I drove to the first 2 with no luck, then scored 2 boxes of 200 rounds of 9mm at the last one. They are the only one’s I can find who have not jacked up their prices. Those 200 round boxes (cheap, range grade, laquer coated) were $49 ea. and I then used a $10 off coupon they mailed me. 2 boxes max allowed. So, pretty darn cheap. Sometimes they have a little better grade stuff at about $18-$19 for 50 rounds. They also have CCI Mini Mags in the 100 round cases for $9, so I’ve gotten a lot of that. Those rounds seem to come in more than any of the other rounds. Even during all of what’s going on, I’ve been able to stock up on all of my calibers by doing this, without paying too much. At the beginning of the scamdemic lockdowns, I scored a bunch of 38, 357 and 45 by posting an ad on Florida Gun Trader. Guy sold me everything he had (quite a bit) for $15 per 50!!! By being patient, but putting in a little effort, I have plenty enough that I can have a few range sessions here and there without worry, and cheap enough so that if they ever catch up on supply/demand that I’m not sitting on a bunch of over priced stuff.

Way to go! But something tells me you shouldn't have devulged your secret, now everyone's going to do that.

[340pd]

I can't explain the availability of most all types and gauges of shotgun shells in Eden Prairie Scheels but there are multiple rows of shelves of them. The rifle aisle is hit and miss but I was stunned to see then consolidate the handgun aisle to just a short shelf.
I will walk that mall today for a re-check. I need nothing but I will buy any bulk 22's as they are usually very fairly priced and it is just cost averaging for my grandsons future shoots. BTW there is zero anything available for black powder shooters so fighting off a gang of car jackers with a flintlock is out of the question.
Interesting to hear Bloomberg has got to whoever controls biden and last weekend he threatened an executive order that makes gun makers liable for any firearms use in a crime. That act will likely shut down the industry until it gets to the Supreme Court. I believe the only way they can get away with this is declare "gun violence" a health threat.
Going to be a hell of a ride.

[jeepster09]

I heard on the news last week that the current anti-gun administration is doing "gun control" now by shutting off the ammo supply. They are doing it by restricting the importation of foreign ammo.
The guy on the news said that about 70-80% of our ammo is imported. The U.S. manufactures can't keep up and the anti-gunners are ecstatic about this new method of CONTROLLING the industry.
The news guy next said that the plan was to allow the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for any shootings which would put them out of business. SCARY times are coming....

[Bawanna]

Sadly the scary times are already here and little hope for positive change. When Joe goes to the home I predict by May, the call girl takes over and things will undoubtedly get even worse.

[BirdsThaWord]

Sadly the scary times are already here and little hope for positive change. When Joe goes to the home I predict by May, the call girl takes over and things will undoubtedly get even worse. I don’t think you are wrong about that.

[berettabone]

They are also working with the Canadian's, who are really starting to push on the NO handguns period. Supposedly to try and cut down on the illegal smuggling of firearms from the U.S. in to Canuckville. It's all our fault that firearms end up in Canadian hands. They never learn their lessons with Prohibition being a good starting example.

[340pd]

Right on Jeepster, this will be the toughest year for gun control in my long life. I have what I need but that does no good if you can't use it.

That said, when I took a noon walk through Scheels in Eden Prairie, MN they still had about 75 boxes of Fiocchi 142 gr. .357 on the shelf at $34.99/bx. (almost reasonable)
This is the first time in months that I have seen any 38 or .357 ammo on a shelf anywhere. I left it for others as I am well stocked.

[Planedude]

They are also working with the Canadian's, who are really starting to push on the NO handguns period. Supposedly to try and cut down on the illegal smuggling of firearms from the U.S. in to Canuckville. It's all our fault that firearms end up in Canadian hands. They never learn their lessons with Prohibition being a good starting example.

Well, I guess Mexico has got to be their next target of "help" for gun control...
Oh! Wait! We've already " Been there, done that" under Obumma/Biden and the BATF...

Why screw up one country when you can do two, or even three for one? A DC bargain extravaganza.:crazy:

[340pd]

Today is Feb 18 and one of my LGS had 1000 boxes of Blazer 40 gr 22lr. @ $4.99/bx. Not cheap but I bought a couple hundred.
Across the highway the Scheels that I cut through for my hour long walk, they were unloading at least three pallets of Winchester M855 150 rds per box at $114.95.bx. High priced but in todays market... I needed none and passed but there were a lot of happy customers. Still plenty of .357 mag on their shelf as well as some .17 rimfire.
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[340pd]

And Saturday they still had dozens of 150 ct. boxes M855 and a whole lot of 45Colt. I did not see the price.
Across the highway, after receiving and posting that they had 1000 50 ct. boxes of Blazer 22lr, four days later they still had over 700 boxes on the floor.
There is some good in all this mess.

[Bawanna]

Love to see something like that around here, I could use some 45 Colt and probably wouldn't pass up the other stuff neither.

[dao]

I wonder how many store employees are buying up their own store's goods and reselling it on gunbroker? There's no shortage there, just sky-high prices.

[Bawanna]

I imagine most places got rules about that sort of thing but don't know for sure. Course the store just wants to make money, maybe they don't care as long as it sells.

I'm pretty impressed that our local Coastal Farm and Feed store isn't war profiteering on ammo. They don't have it usually but when they do it was 14 bucks for a box of 50 9's. Same when I picked up my Sig on Friday 14 bucks.

The two local true gun shops are gouging like 40+ for the same box. Don't sell any to me at that price or much else either.

[340pd]

Not Scheels but the LGS across the highway after nine days of trying to sell out of their shipment of 1000 boxes 50/count Blazer selling at $4.95/bx, they still have 432 boxes on their floor. At this rate it will take them two weeks to clear their shelves. Walk in sales only but as an RSO I have told dozens of customers about the bounty of 22lr ammo at that location which is about three miles from our range.
I find this a bit odd.

[Armybrat]

Glad I bought most of this before the panic set in, but am reluctant to shoot any of it up.

[Bawanna]

Good you did before the panic. Your sitting on a gold mine and have a table full of rare you ain't gonna find this ammo.

Sure is a pretty picture.

[Robin 101]

I have a long way to go before I am tempted to dip into what I call my 'strategic reserves', but i really enjoy reloading and not being able to readily get components ticks me off!!!!!
robin

[getsome]

Dang Army, If I come out there and cut your grass this summer you think you might help a brother out with a little of your stash? 😎....I see you are in Round Rock Texas, I just bought a nice paddle holster for my M&P from American Leather Smith in Round Rock....Really nice, well made and great price and super nice folks right in your backyard 1005 Oakwood Blvd If you need a nice handmade holster check um out www.americanleathersmith.com

[Armybrat]

Heh, I have two sons and a DIL who are lusting after my stash, not to mention my two older brothers.

Y’know, the way things are going these days, they oughta give you a gun when you buy a box of ammo.

But thanks for that link, getsome... that address is almost in my neighborhood. I might check out what they could dress up a couple of my handguns in.

[Bawanna]

I have a long way to go before I am tempted to dip into what I call my 'strategic reserves', but i really enjoy reloading and not being able to readily get components ticks me off!!!!!
robin

That's me right there. All this panic stuff had me tumbling and cleaning all my brass in preparation to reload if I can ever find stuff.
I have tons of bullets in 45, no much in 38/357 and zero 9 which I've never loaded for but have the dies and such. Have quite a few small pistol primers, some large but not alot and quite a bit of rifle primers but I don't load much rifle these days. I got a new tumbler than you run wet with soap and I love it, doubt I'll ever use my media tumbler again. I think I've done close to 10,000 cases in the last couple weeks, nothing like the looks of shiny brass to please my eye.

[Armybrat]

My now-retired cop nephew has built up a considerable stash of .40 caliber ammo over the years,
Seems that a lot of his fellow officers didn’t use very much of their issued practice ammo at their range - just enough to qualify once a year. So nephew, a pretty darn good BBQ cook, would trade them a couple of brisket or pulled pork sammiches for their unused boxes. As a result he accumulated between 5,000-6,000 rounds. He still has almost all of it that he’s saving for family members.

[dao]

I've shot ammo that was close to 20 years old. With no issues. So long as it's kept in a dry place it should be good for a long, long time. Never know what the future holds, and that 5-6K stash could be worth it's weight in gold one day. Smart nephew you've got there.

[Bawanna]

Ammo now days should last near forever. I shot stuff in a 1911 and a M1 Carbine both bullets and guns that had been in the mags since Korea. It shot perfectly.

[340pd]

I have a few thousand rounds in five calibers packed away in 50 cal ammo cans for the kids and grandkids. I have all the reloading supplies I will ever need and working at a range so brass is no problem. I am debating between more reloading or keeping the supplies in storage and reload as I shoot.
Shooting is different now. Sunday I went to an indoor club I belong to and ran a box of 22 all DA through my SP101. I planned on shooting another box of 38's through my 3"686. I ran the target to 30' and put ten shots DA in a 3" circle.
Normally I would have continued to run through 5hat box and then one more. Not now, I packed up and went home.

[getsome]

pd, if you can put 10 rounds of .38 from a 3” snub inside of 3 inches at 30 feet you don’t need no more stinking practice, go home, fuggedaboutit, save your ammo

[Bawanna]

"keeping the supplies in storage and reload as I shoot."

This is what I'm going with. That way I can use the minimal supplies I have for what I want to load or need.
I have stuff I loaded years ago and then didn't shoot as I had access to factory at the PD. Now I find myself questioning myself sometimes on the loads. Reloading manuals are different, some powders aren't around any more, some new one's I've never used or even heard of. It will kind of be like starting over.

[340pd]

pd, if you can put 10 rounds of .38 from a 3” snub inside of 3 inches at 30 feet you don’t need no more stinking practice, go home, fuggedaboutit, save your ammo

No coffee helps but seriously, one of our range customers is a Czech who earned his citizenship the hard way. He has a couple of L-frames with 2-1/2" barrels that le loves to shoot offhand, DA, at 25 yds. Two shots in two seconds, score and re-do. I always bring him a clean 2'x3' backerboard so he can accurately monitor and record every shot.
If we were not busy, I would bring one of my 3"er's in and we challenged each other. The goal was to keep everything on a 9x12 Bullseye target. That man returned me to my bullseye shooting days decades long gone by.
I have a few guns in a variety of sizes but if I had to pick one that I could control under stress and with relative assured accuracy it would be one of these two.

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[Bawanna]

Still watching for a nice 686 (6 shot)trying to find one without a key hole but if I found a good one the key wouldn't be a deal breaker. Couple of beauties you got there 340.

[340pd]

I understand the "keyhole" issue but they have never bothered me. Both of those in the above pics are seven shot and their weight allows the gun to stay on target for follow-up shots which is something I could never replicate with my 4" 686 ProSeries. It is a weight/balance thing.
The 586 in the picture is from their Performance Center shop. I took a stone to the rebound slide and touched up a few other areas as well as adding a 14# rebound spring, a ribbed mainspring, and the trigger is now better than the one out of the PC. That is not a tribute to my amateur gunsmithing but a dig at how far the quality of the Performance Center guns have dropped.

[340pd]

Been crazy warm in MN so I have not been in a LGS other than to buy a few hundred Blazer 22lr @10¢/rd.
It took that LGS three weeks to sell our of his 50,000 shipment.

Today I stopped in for a visit and they had a different brand of 22lr @14¢/rd boxed 500 bulk. I passed, but on the way home my mental math gymnastics told me I could have one of their nice pre-owned Nighthawk Customs in trade for my personal 22 stash.

[340pd]

Today at our local Alhmans. Lots of 9mm at $20/box of 50. I heard they also had other calibers at equally fair prices.

[340pd]

A buddy just sent me this pic from Scheels, Eden Prairie, MN
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[Bawanna]

Now that's a pretty picture. Hope to see a lot more like that soon and hopefully at semi return to normal prices.

[King Rat]

No coffee helps but seriously, one of our range customers is a Czech who earned his citizenship the hard way. He has a couple of L-frames with 2-1/2" barrels that le loves to shoot offhand, DA, at 25 yds. Two shots in two seconds, score and re-do. I always bring him a clean 2'x3' backerboard so he can accurately monitor and record every shot.
If we were not busy, I would bring one of my 3"er's in and we challenged each other. The goal was to keep everything on a 9x12 Bullseye target. That man returned me to my bullseye shooting days decades long gone by.
I have a few guns in a variety of sizes but if I had to pick one that I could control under stress and with relative assured accuracy it would be one of these two.


If I was a young man again, I most definitely think about moving the Czech Republic. Beautiful Country. Great Living Conditions, Great work environment and gun laws.

PS Nice Revolvers by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgHMmimI0C4

[AJBert]

Scheels opened up here in Colorado Springs a couple of weeks ago. Made the mistake to go there last Saturday and the HUGE parking lot was completely full. Might try going tomorrow depending on the snow we are supposed to get through the night. My brother went shortly after they opened and said they had a 3 box limit on whatever they had in stock at non-panic prices. I don't really "need" any ammo, due to the avalanche that took the gun safe with all my firearms, but I'm thinking if they have a hole puncher that catches my eye I might just pick up some ammo.