Carry position of CM 45

[Retiree2013]

I am new to this site and to owning a Kahr CM45. I have had the gun for about a week and have put 150 rounds through it. My other carry guns always had a safety. I sarry a Springfield 911 in 9mm. I had a Colt light weight defender and it was a bit heavy. My delema is that I always like having a round in the chamber for quick access. BUT, with no safely I am a little concerned. Looking for feedback.:target:

[Bawanna]

The safety is in your trigger finger. The main thing for me is a good quality holster that covers the trigger guard.

The CM45 is much safer than many as the trigger pull is quite long but easy before it hits the release, so it gives a little cushion.

I'm a 1911 guy and years ago was concerned about safety if I neglected to put the safety on, a detective coworker opened my eyes when he said, if you forget to put the safety on now you have a Glock or an XD or a M&P. More safety in the 1911 even without the thumb safety than the others.

I don't pocket carry and don't advocate it but many do and that's fine, but again a good holster.

If your considering carrying empty chamber you might as well leave it in the night stand.

You'll be fine once you get accustomed to it.

[Canine Dave]

The safety is in your trigger finger. The main thing for me is a good quality holster that covers the trigger guard.

The CM45 is much safer than many as the trigger pull is quite long but easy before it hits the release, so it gives a little cushion.

I'm a 1911 guy and years ago was concerned about safety if I neglected to put the safety on, a detective coworker opened my eyes when he said, if you forget to put the safety on now you have a Glock or an XD or a M&P. More safety in the 1911 even without the thumb safety than the others.

I don't pocket carry and don't advocate it but many do and that's fine, but again a good holster.

If your considering carrying empty chamber you might as well leave it in the night stand.

You'll be fine once you get accustomed to it.

The safety is between your ears. A safety is a mechanical device that can fail.

That's what we teach the kids in our youth league.

I don't pocket carry my K9 because it pulls my britches down.

[340pd]

Take a look at the clearance section of DM Bullard who is a very high quality holster maker and they for some reason have a lot of items that are directed at Kahr guns. Note most are Left Handed but some are not and at the prices they are asking they are a steal.
https://bullardleather.com/collections/sale-holsters-only

[zamboni]

Like what has already been said, a quality holster is all you need. Personally, I will not carry a gun with a safety. I don’t train enough that I would trust myself not to forget to flip it off if I were ever to need it.

[getsome]

Welcome Retiree2013 to the forum....I do understand your safety concern but the beauty of the Kahr design is the long smooth but very deliberate trigger.....I’m an old school revolver guy and if the Kahr designed revolver like trigger didn’t exist I would still be carrying my Smith 642 because it felt safe fully loaded in my pocket but with a PM9 I get 2 more rounds with much better sights and without a manual safety to deal with in a flat much more easily concealed weapon which works well for me and I feel perfectly safe with it in my pocket holster as an EDC pistol...

[DavidR]

Like what has already been said, a quality holster is all you need. Personally, I will not carry a gun with a safety. I don’t train enough that I would trust myself not to forget to flip it off if I were ever to need it.

This sums it up for me.

[O'Dell]

Like some others, I grew up with manual safeties, and still prefer one. That's the principal reason I like HK's over Sig's. However, I have had multiple Kahrs over the years, and think the trigger makes for a safe weapon. As others have mentioned, make sure the trigger is covered by your holster and you'll be okay. I carry my PM9 in my pocket occasionally, but always with a good pocket holster.

BTW, I replaced my stolen PM45 with a CM45 and It's a fine pistol.

[sorcerer]

Have you read up on how a Kahr trigger system works? The short story is that once the slide has been cycled it sets the trigger assembly. as you start to pull the trigger it starts a cocking sequence to set the trigger then as it releases from the sear it releases the firing pin. In contrast a striker fired is cocked with the movement of the slide and is released with the movement of the trigger. Glocks are similar yet different from Kahr. Kahr is a double action trigger. Striker fired is a single action. I carry in no curtain order a MK9, K9, CW9 IWB. They stay in the holster unless being fired or cleaned or switched out. We have no children or grandchildren so your mileage may very. The gun in the holster goes on the nightstand, the gun in the holster goes on the belt. Get to work, gun in holster comes off the belt and is stowed in the vehicle. And so on. A obstruction inside the trigger guard, part of your shirt, finger is when things go south. When I use one of the 3 in an IDPA match I have an OWB holster. The inherit danger with any carry gun is when holstering the firearm.

[mr surveyor]

Keep your Booger Hook off the Bang Switch .....

Seems to work pretty good with quality firearms

jd

[Retiree2013]

Thanks for the input. I agree 100 %. I am just not accustomed YET, to carrying without the safety. But , as you said and I tell me kids. ALWAYS be aware of your finger position.

[JinRC]

I once read this advice.
Take all ammo out of the gun and rack the slide. Confirm you have nothing in the chamber, then insert a loaded mag. Cary it like that for a week or two. After that maybe head to the range. Line up on a target and pull the trigger. If it goes click no bang, your daily activities are probably not going to result in a ND.
Go ahead and start carrying with one in the chamber.
Food for thought.

[Bawanna]

I've kind of been doing that myself with guns I haven't got around to shooting yet. I load them including chamber and wear them around the house, yard etc, if I go someplace I just make sure I have another proven gun on me in case the new one don't work for some reason.
I used to chastise officers at my old department they would buy off duty or back up guns and just hang them on, not shooting them. They had to shoot them eventually as they had to qualify with them but still how can one trust a gun they never shot.