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Slowalkintexan
06-02-2021, 06:08 PM
On my new to me CW45, second magazine thru it,,,had run fine, The slide jammed shut with a cartridge in the chamber. I can only move the slide back 1/4”. Seems to be locked tight. What do I do now?
BirdsThaWord
06-02-2021, 07:13 PM
If you are sure it is not a live round in there, try yanking the slide back really, really hard? Could be a bulged casing. Also, the extractor is visible from the side of the slide...If you can get a dental pic or something similar in there, pull the extractor away from the casing as you simultaneously pull the slide back. Also, maybe try applying downward pressure on your slide stop/take-down pin as you try to pull the slide back. Hope this helps. I’m sure others will chime in (Greg, Colonal) and give other advice that I have not thought of, or can’t think of due to the 3 beers I’ve just consumed. Good luck with it!
Slowalkintexan
06-02-2021, 07:53 PM
If you are sure it is not a live round in there, try yanking the slide back really, really hard? Could be a bulged casing. Also, the extractor is visible from the side of the slide...If you can get a dental pic or something similar in there, pull the extractor away from the casing as you simultaneously pull the slide back. Also, maybe try applying downward pressure on your slide stop/take-down pin as you try to pull the slide back. Hope this helps. I’m sure others will chime in (Greg, Colonal) and give other advice that I have not thought of, or can’t think of due to the 3 beers I’ve just consumed. Good luck with it!
Well, it was a live round,,,but I tried gripping the slide firmly, holding it horizontal against my body and whacked the back of the grip 3 or 4 times and it came loose,, thanks for the help...I am going to remember your suggestions for if this happens again. And I’m going to try other ammo too, but apparently this is an almost common problem with this series,. I stil like the gun.
Bawanna
06-02-2021, 08:05 PM
I suspect it was a long cartridge and didn't chamber all the way. I had a son in law with a CW9 and I ended up putting a dowel down the barrel and tapping it against a bench while also pulling on the slide. It worked pretty easily however extreme caution is advised, safe location and you know the drill.
getsome
06-02-2021, 08:35 PM
Hi Slowalkintexan and welcome to Kahrtalk, lots of nice folks here......Glad you got it unjammed and the live round out.....I think Bawanna hit the problem with a too long bullet that the gun doesn’t like and wouldn’t fully chamber....If you Google CW45 slide jammed with live round in the chamber you will find this has happened to others and it was a bullet too long to fully chamber, one guy had your exact issue using Hornsby TAP .45 and he did what you did and grabbed the slide with a glove and pulled hard until the round ejected.....
Now that it’s safe to work with I would take it apart and make sure the recoil spring is in there correctly with the open end of the spring towards the muzzle.....Make sure the barrel lugs don’t have any rough areas or burrs and look at the most likely cause of the problem, the barrel chamber which can and should be polished along with the feed ramp to smooth those areas out with any quality metal polish like flitz or wenol and you can even polish the outside of the barrel, won’t hurt anything and looks nice.....
Clean it and lube it up real good (they like running wet) and run it like that until it breaks in fully.....Choose full power rounds of a different brand of ammo and go shoot it hard......Good luck, let us know how it goes and again welcome to the forum.....
BirdsThaWord
06-02-2021, 10:54 PM
Glad you got it resolved! :D
Canine Dave
06-03-2021, 05:44 AM
Me too! :)
But what I'm trying to understand is this... "I can only move the slide back 1/4” " If it were a too long reload (certainly factory ammo manf to SAAMI will always cycle in a Kahr) then how could the slide move at all, I wonder.
Stuck bullets seem to be somewhat common because I think people who reload will error on the longer side of OAL. Some powders will pressure spike if the OAL is shortened. So the solution is to not smash the bullet deeper.
Slowalkintexan
06-03-2021, 10:10 AM
Canine Dave, I was wondering the same thing. Anyway,, I took it apart, cleaned it,, maybe I should put a little more lube on it....however, right now it’s running fine,,,,I like this gun very much,
Bawanna
06-03-2021, 10:17 AM
Me too! :)
But what I'm trying to understand is this... "I can only move the slide back 1/4” " If it were a too long reload (certainly factory ammo manf to SAAMI will always cycle in a Kahr) then how could the slide move at all, I wonder.
Stuck bullets seem to be somewhat common because I think people who reload will error on the longer side of OAL. Some powders will pressure spike if the OAL is shortened. So the solution is to not smash the bullet deeper.
This is what I suspect happened in this case. The bullet was a bit long and got stuck, pulling the slide probably pulled the bullet out a bit. Curious what it looked like once it was out. Probably a little long at least.
Slowalkintexan
06-03-2021, 07:08 PM
I didn’t measure that one, but it was a hollow point. today I ran a bunch of ball ammo throu and it ate it with no problem.
Thank you for all the help.
yqtszhj
06-03-2021, 09:08 PM
I’ve had some long hollow points get stuck in my CW45. Gold dots I think. Anybody remember the problem with rifling in the barrel being too far toward the chamber end of the barrel? Seems like there was a thread about it. FMJ run fine but some wide hollow points have issues.
sorcerer
06-03-2021, 09:10 PM
I rented a 45 when they were first released. It would do the same as yours did. After it happened a 4th time I gave up. The second time and the 4 time I had to have their range officer come out on the lane to help clear the fire arm. I really wanted to like/ buy a Kahr 45. In less than 50 rounds I decided that a small light weight single stack 45 was not what I wanted. My reaction was the same for the XDS45.
getsome
06-03-2021, 09:24 PM
Glad you got it back up and running good....Trying to stuff those big ole bowling ball rounds into a little hole sometimes is troublesome but keep shooting it and it will only smooth out and get better.......Once you find a good Kahr pistol that shoots right you have found a keeper.....Hope you come back and hang out with us and jaw a while........
getsome
06-03-2021, 09:45 PM
I rented a 45 when they were first released. It would do the same as yours did. After it happened a 4th time I gave up. The second time and the 4 time I had to have their range officer come out on the lane to help clear the fire arm. I really wanted to like/ buy a Kahr 45. In less than 50 rounds I decided that a small light weight single stack 45 was not what I wanted. My reaction was the same for the XDS45.
Ranges are notorious for not doing any cleaning or lubrication to their rental guns so never judge a rented pistol using range ammo as having issues.....Large caliber small frame semi auto require break in, regular maintenance and good full power ammo to function properly......Rentals are good to see if the gun fits your hand and to see how you can see the sights but not much more.....
sorcerer
06-04-2021, 03:05 PM
Boy isn’t that the truth. I’ve gotten to the point that I will run a bore snake through a rental if it starts being crabby. Both guns hurt my hand. The XDS 45 was just nasty.
Slowalkintexan
06-04-2021, 04:31 PM
The more I shoot this gun, the more I like it...Very accurate, and the recoil is very manageable. Now looking at other Kahr products.
topgun1953
06-04-2021, 09:40 PM
trouble extracting? Could be your chamber doesn't have enough free bore.
Took me a while to find this.
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?27829-CW45-doesn-t-chamber-properly/page2&highlight=free+bore Start at post 18 and post 20 is by the fellow who can help.
The 45 chambers can be tight and not have enough free bore. Longer cartridges extend into the rifling and prevent the pistol from going into battery or making extraction difficult. You can check your ammo by doing the "drop test". Drop a round into the barrel and see if it slips right in and seats even with the hood. There are some pictures around here somewhere. I had this problem with my CM45 so I sent my barrel out to dougGuy to get it fixed. Works fine now. Greg, gb6941, was the lead author on this topic I believe.
yqtszhj
06-06-2021, 08:43 AM
trouble extracting? Could be your chamber doesn't have enough free bore.
Took me a while to find this.
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?27829-CW45-doesn-t-chamber-properly/page2&highlight=free+bore Start at post 18 and post 20 is by the fellow who can help.
The 45 chambers can be tight and not have enough free bore. Longer cartridges extend into the rifling and prevent the pistol from going into battery or making extraction difficult. You can check your ammo by doing the "drop test". Drop a round into the barrel and see if it slips right in and seats even with the hood. There are some pictures around here somewhere. I had this problem with my CM45 so I sent my barrel out to dougGuy to get it fixed. Works fine now. Greg, gb6941, was the lead author on this topic I believe.
Thanks, that was the thread I was thinking of.
Scott321
06-07-2021, 03:25 AM
My Kahr 45's won't shoot Corbon 45's. So far I've only tried a couple of different brands, as I told my self I would use WWB JHP for my 45's and 40's over 3.5". I use Speer GD short barrel for the PM45, and I haven't had issues. Before that, I was using Rem GS 185 +P in all my Kahr 45's, but they stopped making it and I want to wait a year or two to see how the new owners deal with QC before checking out their new stuff.
Additionally, besides the 45 Corbon's not fully chambering, the super wide-mouth deforms on the feedramp. I don't notice anything as severe with the other brands I've tried.
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