Kahr CW9 8 Round Magazine: Why does it have 2 springs and a leather buffer?

[dubious_79]

Hi, I disassembled my Kahr CW9 mag and noticed that there are 2 springs inside and they are connected by a piece of leather as a buffer between them. I was pretty shocked to discover this and haven't trusted the magazine ever since. I haven't had any reliability issues with it, but it seems like a Rube Goldberg design. I've been thinking about ordering a replacement mag spring which appears to a one solid piece. Have any of you guys encountered the leather buffer setup like this? Have they been reliable for you? I wonder if Kahr will replace it for free in my case.

[BirdsThaWord]

I have not seen or heard of it. There are a few here that are much more in the know than myself though, so maybe someone else here has seen that. Doesn’t sound factory if you ask me. Might be a bit more Bubba than Rube Goldberg. ;)

[dubious_79]

Might be a bit more Bubba than Rube Goldberg. ;)

Bubba Goldberg!

[Tilos]

I would just buy a Wolff (gunsprings) mag spring:
Springs for ALL MODELS Semi-Auto Pistols (gunsprings.com) (https://www.gunsprings.com/KAHR%20ARMS/cID1/mID29/dID340#191)
I have replaced all my Kahr mag springs with these, all +5%xp
A pack of 3 springs is $17.29 +tax/shipping.
jmo,
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[Bawanna]

^^^^What he said... it is my understanding that Kahr springs are made by Wolff so you can't go wrong. I've never heard of the double spring/leather set up. I agree with Bird, don't sound like a factory set up to me.

[dubious_79]

^^^^What he said... it is my understanding that Kahr springs are made by Wolff so you can't go wrong. I've never heard of the double spring/leather set up. I agree with Bird, don't sound like a factory set up to me.

The Wolff spring is on the way. It was also a bit cheaper than the spring on the official Kahr site.

[Bawanna]

You didn't buy this gun new did you?

[yqtszhj]

I’m wondering if it had a plastic or metal follower? Maybe somebody did some kind of hodgepodge setup with magguts springs or something. If I remember right the magguts changes the CW9 mag from 7 to 8 rounds.

[dubious_79]

I’m wondering if it had a plastic or metal follower? Maybe somebody did some kind of hodgepodge setup with magguts springs or something. If I remember right the magguts changes the CW9 mag from 7 to 8 rounds.

It appears to have a stock kahr plastic follower.

[Charlie98]

Curiosity led me to my Kahr 9-8 mags... nope, just a one-piece spring.

I wonder... that last round or two can be a bear to load, I wonder if someone tried to cut a coil or 3 to ease the loading effort... and then had problems.

Putting it back together... I'll tell you what... that's a LOT of spring to stuff back up in that body!

[FreeMe]

I have a good supply of Kahr K9/P9 7 and 8 round mags of various vintage. I've been into all of them. All have a single spring and no leather. Can't imagine that mags for the CW9 would be any different. Somebody's messed with that one.

[berettabone]

Definitely one of the strangest things I've ever heard. Absolutely nothing normal about it. Maybe its previous owner went to the Uncle Joe's School of Gunsmithing. He's an expert at smithing and knows things that we've never heard of. Like .22 cals. that will stick in your lung and can be removed but a 9mm will explode your chest. Just some of the tid bits you can learn.................................

[dubious_79]

Well, I got the Wolff Gunspring for the 8 Round 9mm magazine. It REALLY doesn't want to fit into the mag. It's about 14" long uncompressed. DO you have any pro tips on how to make this work?

[Bawanna]

You can push the spring down far as you can and stick a pin or screwdriver or something thru the holes in the mag to hold it while you regroup and get a little more. They can be challenging trying to keep them straight. Don't give up.

[FreeMe]

(Instructions for a righty)
Hold the mag upside down vertically in your left hand with the mag top on the table. The front of the mag should be against your palm. Make sure the spring is started with the open end of the winding facing the rear. Work the spring in with your right fingers while pinching the coils at the bottom of the mag with your left. When you get the last coil at the base of the mag, hold that pinch, pick up the liner with your right hand and slide it in place (pin up). Rotate your index finger into the opening and over the liner, and push it down slightly into the mag so that the ends of the lips are not blocked by your finger. Begin sliding the base over the lips. Once you're to that point, you should be able to easily slide the base on as you move your finger out of the way.

Make sure you have safety glasses on before you begin, and don't have your face over the mag. If you slip, parts go flying. If you lay a sheet on the floor under your work area, they'll be easier to find.

Bawana's method is probably more of a sure thing, but that's how I do it.

[iWander]

I have a good supply of Kahr K9/P9 7 and 8 round mags of various vintage. I've been into all of them. All have a single spring and no leather. Can't imagine that mags for the CW9 would be any different. Somebody's messed with that one.Same. I've had dozens of Kahr mags and have never heard of or seen that.