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getsome
06-02-2022, 04:37 PM
Interesting new cartridge from Federal……Shoots a 100 grain bullet at 1200 fps out of a S&W Shield with the advantage being two extra rounds…..Not sure if it will catch on or how available it will be but for those who like to carry the most ammo in the smallest package this may be a winner…….Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7En54WQGvH4

JohnR
06-02-2022, 04:50 PM
Seems to me that due to the lousy timing of its release, it was designed to fail. I hope Federal isn’t financially damaged over this.

It may be a perfectly good cartridge, but it’s like offering a better lifeboat to the passengers of the Titanic, after it hit the iceberg.

DavidR
06-02-2022, 04:52 PM
It’ll be all the rage when Brandon bans 9mm.

getsome
06-02-2022, 08:02 PM
That’s a thought and if President Pudding Head gets his wish and there is a 10 round max magazine capacity law passed then a .30 super 10 round pistol would be a great little carry piece and would also make Justin Moon look like a genius for not jumping on the high cap micro gun craze…..

Ken L
06-02-2022, 08:21 PM
When I first read about the 30 Super I thought it was a solution to a non-existent problem. Now with Brandon saying that he wants to ban 9mms, I agree it may be ahead of it's time.

But, and I digress, but a 2010 Ford Escape was used to terrorize, kill and injure people at the Christmas Parade in Waukesha, WI. It is obviously a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist weapon, so we should talk about banning 2010 Ford Escapes also. Just my $0.02. And it makes as much sense.

getsome
06-02-2022, 09:15 PM
Exactly! If they allow victims families to sue gun manufacturers because their product worked as advertised and was used by an insane person to kill someone then all is lost which is so unfair because if an 18 year old rap star walked into a Dodge dealership and pays cash for a 700 horsepower Hellcat Challenger then goes out and kills himself or an innocent family driving 130 mph on a city street there is no way anyone could sue Chrysler because they sold a race car which performed as advertised to an 18 year old……What’s the difference?

berettabone
06-03-2022, 07:11 AM
When I first read about the 30 Super I thought it was a solution to a non-existent problem. Now with Brandon saying that he wants to ban 9mms, I agree it may be ahead of it's time.

But, and I digress, but a 2010 Ford Escape was used to terrorize, kill and injure people at the Christmas Parade in Waukesha, WI. It is obviously a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist weapon, so we should talk about banning 2010 Ford Escapes also. Just my $0.02. And it makes as much sense. The city I was born in..................never thought I'd see the day.

JohnR
06-03-2022, 08:07 AM
What the heck is up with Wisconsin? There's been a lot of violence north of the Cheddar Curtain.

berettabone
06-03-2022, 02:11 PM
I don't consider myself to be a Cheddar Head since the wifey and I can't have dairy......................Wisconsin is having the same issues as everyone else. Meth is a big issue because there is so much by product crime connected to it. Lots of road rage shootings lately. Just seems like people are more pissed off these days. One problem here is that a good portion of crime is done by juveniles. They have detention facilities but there aren't nearly enough of them. A juvenile commits a crime, they are supposed to spend 6 months in the facility, and they end up getting out in a week or less to make room for the more violent offenders. When they realize that they only have to spend a week watching tv and eating bologna sandwiches, they're not deterred. They get to visit with buddies and have a good ole time. I know this because I know someone whose son was taking advantage of this very thing. Happens all the time. Liberal judges don't help much. Kid comes in, gives them a sob story, and he's out in a week robbing someone, or jacking a car, or burglarizing someone's home. Been a problem for ages.

JohnR
06-03-2022, 02:19 PM
Yeah, we have similar issues here. But they want us to think the only thing important is that the Sheriff just moved his personal residence to the next county, which is supposed to be a violation of the city charter. So while lawyers huddled and decided he was busted, he submitted his retirement announcement. But all the juvenile violence, it's like no one cares about it any more. Sure, a few groups like Mad Dads stands around and goes "tut tut," but nothing changes.

berettabone
06-03-2022, 03:32 PM
Waukesha, Wi had a population of about 30,000 when I was born. It was 70,000 when I left. They built up so much, that now they're going to receive water from Milwaukee after running their aquafers dry and begging for water for years. The last city I lived in was about 100,000. I now live about 160 mi. away from there and it's surprising how such a small distance can make such a large impact. The town I live in now has a population of about 700. The kids look you in the eye when they speak to you. You don't see them texting all of the time. They seem to work hard and play hard. You go to a festival and the younger people aren't causing any problems or acting up or being disrespectful. Most of the people here don't take any crap from anyone. Sure, there's still crime, but not like the city. I needed to leave the city for my own piece of mind. People were really starting to annoy me. I know that some people love the city and I say that's wonderful. I can go out on my deck at any time day or night, and all I hear is birds, coyotes, a dog in the distance, my wind chimes and the breeze blowing through the trees.

JohnR
06-03-2022, 03:37 PM
Yes, we're going to retire in the Southern Appalachians and it's like you describe. The nearest town is less than 400 people, the county seat. There are some drug related crimes, rural meth I guess, but the local paper shows about 5-10 arrests per week for a county with 11,000 total population. Here, I refuse to go to the county fair because of the feral humans. Up there, I don't think I'd hesitate for a moment to go to the fair or other festivals.

getsome
06-03-2022, 09:49 PM
We have a cabin in Hiawassee Ga right off hwy 76 which we try and get to whenever possible and I think you said y’all were going to settle in Hayesville N.C. which is right across lake Chatuge from our cabin and is in Gods country for sure…..Back in the day when Towns County was dry my brother in law and I would sneak off and head up to Hayesville to pick up beer for the weekend and tell the wives we were looking for fishing spots but they knew what we were up to…….Hiawassee has changed so much in the last 20 years it’s unreal and become so much more big city like with all the Atlanta rich folks buying up all the property and we knew when they built the McDonalds on hwy 76 it was the beginning of the end but it’s still almost crime free, beautiful and God loving, gun toting Americans can still enjoy a good life in the mountains so welcome home neighbor!

JohnR
06-04-2022, 07:26 AM
Yes, howdy neighbor!

berettabone
06-04-2022, 02:10 PM
During the time of our discussion, some guy entered the home of a retired Juneau County judge, shot and killed him. They found the guy in the basement with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. I guess he's in serios condition. Waiting for more info. This happened in New Lisbon, Wi, about a 10-minute drive from my home. Just goes to show ya......................................

JohnR
06-04-2022, 05:19 PM
Getsome, have you been to the Chatuge Gun Club? That and Panther Top are the only ranges I can find. Unless I buy some boonies and have my own.

getsome
06-04-2022, 06:18 PM
Last time We were up there we were looking for any indoor range within a reasonable drive but there was nothing to be found……The Chatuge club is private and pricy to join, way out of my league……..There really isn’t a place to pistol shoot anywhere in the area and I told my wife if we moved up here and opened a gun shop and indoor range we would make a killing because there’s lots of money in the area looking for something to do other than a movie or bowling but she said no because she needs to be close to a Walmart or Costco to live but man I’m telling you if you opened an indoor range in Hiawassee you would have to beat back the customers…….We did find a cool place to shoot trap at a place called Etowah Valley shooting clays park in Dawsonville Ga which was fun, it’s about 40 miles away, they give you a golf cart to ride through the course and it was fun and I found out I suck at trap but we really wanted to pistol shoot and other than that the shooting opportunities in the area just don’t exist……So if I were you and wanted to make a fortune then open up an indoor range somewhere in Hiawassee and cash in brotherman!

JohnR
06-04-2022, 07:16 PM
I imagine it’s a fine way to make a small fortune. I’d have to start with a large fortune, of course. My hunch is everyone outside city limits just shoots in their backyard, but that’s a wild guess. I can see Hiawassee having a range for the tourists, though. It’s a very touristy place, but thankfully not Florida touristy.

JohnR
06-04-2022, 07:54 PM
I looked at Chatuge Gun Club’s website, and it looks cheap to me. “The first year’s dues are $60.00 and $35.00 per year thereafter.”

getsome
06-04-2022, 09:46 PM
Well that’s not too bad if you live there and go often, mostly anything with Chatuge in the name means heads go back and noses tilt up to 45 degrees or so…..We were just looking for a place to shoot pistols but that might work if you use it enough……..

JohnR
06-05-2022, 05:47 AM
I know what you mean!