Bit slow

[berettabone]

A bit slow around here lately. Anybody doing what I'm doing? Last mow of the year. Take out battery for winter. Blow out garage. Take down fence and remove stakes from garden. Pull out dead plants. Rake up and prepare for next year. New tires for wifey's car. Make sure snow blower starts. Just finished building a new well house roof with metal roofing. Wind up and store hoses. Stack plant cages. Stock up pantry. You never know how this winter will be as far as food and prices. It was an ok berry year. The wife made about 20 jars of raspberry and blackberry jelly. Got about 200 tomatoes this year but the weather could have been a lot better. Just grew tomatoes, carrots and peppers this year............ We're supposed to get our first nights in the 20's. I like to be prepared for winter. Right now, is my favorite time of year. Nights in the 40's and 50's, days in the 60's and sunny. We also have the best night skies this time of year. Birds are just starting to show up at the nearby sanctuary. Could mean an early winter this year.................. After seeing Florida, my state looks pretty good right now. I know that we have many, many snowbirds here who either spend the summer in Florida or moved there permanently. I feel for the people of Florida, but how much can you take before you maybe think about living somewhere else? I realize that this could be tough if you're a born and raised, but they should know that they'll get another one in the future. It's inevitable. I couldn't/wouldn't go through that every few years myself. I wonder about flood insurance. Is there even such a thing along a coastline that has hurricanes? Expensive? Floridians chime in.

[Bawanna]

Pretty much the same here, we don't get the super cold winter like yall but it's really cooled down here. We went for several weeks very hot and dry with no rain. I finally mowed a few days ago although except over the drain field it didn't really need it. Hopefully with a little rain and cool I'll get to mow a few more times but never know.

It has been very slow around here, I've been trying to think of ways to liven the place up some but so far no great idea's have entered my small mind.

[Armybrat]

It has rained only once since April at my house. Got 2.7” over two days in the middle of July, which was a surprise.

The blistering 100+ degree days we had starting in late May didn’t quit until early September, but we are still getting into the low 90s almost every day.
The TV weather guessers think we might get some precipitation next week.

[DavidR]

I lived on the southeast coast of Florida for 50 years. Didn’t experience a hurricane for the first 32 years. Went through three in a two year period (2004-2005; Frances, Jeanne, Wilma) but none of them were anywhere near as destructive as Ian. The area I lived in hasn’t had a hurricane since 2005. While storms may be inevitable I lived there 50 years without anything worse than a Category 2.

I always carried flood insurance. Premium in 2020 was $500. Homeowners insurance was $4,200 with high deductibles.

Now in live near Raleigh NC. Winters aren’t terrible so not nearly as much to do to prepare as you. Fall has arrived. 40s/50s at night, 60s/70s during the day. Beautiful!

[DavidR]

It has been very slow around here, I've been trying to think of ways to liven the place up some but so far no great idea's have entered my small mind.

How about a caliber discussion?
Capacity?

[GROTMAN]

As david said beautiful here in nc. Great weather to go hiking etc. I know this isn't a fishing forum but i will be heading to obx next weekend (15th) to meet my dad for our annual fishing trip. He will be 90 nov 8th. Never know when it will be our last. Hopefully will be able to post some good pics of all the fish we catch that might liven things up a little. According to a friend of his that lives in buxton they are catching a lot of blues and puppy drum right now. Hopefully they will still be around then.

[Bawanna]

Well that always works and we can start with that.
Personally, I think we need an influx of new blood, more womans, new shooters etc.
In the early days we seemed to have more direct interaction with Kahr, now days not so much.

Haven't had any rabble rousers (except for myself of course) in quite a while. Probably forgot how to push the button and send them to Glock.

We also don't seem to have near as many issues or problematic Kahrs to whine about, although I never had any myself. Course most of those were 380's so don't really matter.

Oh ****, I already done started it didn't I?

[dao]

You talking smack about my P380 Colonel?

[kenemoore]

We could start another "best" lube discussion. I'll start it off. Used to hear a lot about Frog Lube, not so much anymore. Anyone on here use it?

I use Ballistol for cleaning, Super Lube Grease for rails, and Royal Purple Synthetic Transmission Fluid as a lube oil. Probably have enough of the grease and oil to last until I die or go to the funny farm.

[Bawanna]

We tried the Frog Lube when I was at the department. Followed all the prep instructions to the letter. Spent a lot of time getting that glue out of the officers guns. They were so gummed up they became unfunctional. He was an all in kind of guy and put it on all his guns. He was a dept sniper, even it failed, got into the bolt and glued up the firing pin.

I use Hoppe's, Ballistol, and TW25 grease for slide rails. I figure oil is oil as long as one cleans and replaces it from time to time. I clean immediately after every shooting session, so they don't stay dirty for long.

[dao]

I use FP-10 for everything, except the most copper fouled barrels. Love the smell

[Barth]

Ballistol for me.
I still have my lone Kahr MK40 Elite.
Still waiting on a SS K45 Commander Elite :cool:
https://i.imgur.com/iZx6iRy.jpg?1

[AJBert]

I looked at the wife last week and suggested we take a little trip down to the Mississippi Gulf Coast. She asked me why and I reminded her that the first week of Oct is Cruisin' the Coast. She was all in and we headed down this past Sunday and heading back home today. Could only get a room for three days, otherwise we would have stayed the entire week. We both said we would take pictures, but of course we didn't. Well, I did take one of my honey next to a fake shark hanging by it's tail. I don't think she would want me to post it on the innerweb, though. She is a bit shy.

Saw so many vehicles that blew me away. Every make and model and year you can think of. Brand new Corvettes to old antiques from the early 1900's, and everything in between. Was so busy looking at them cruising back and forth on Hwy 90 I'm surprised we never got in a fender bender. Used to live in Gulfport a few years back so we knew the places to see them. I did come across a new dream car of mine. A 1969 Chevelle SS restomod that had everything done to it that I would do. Original 396 big block that had been fuel injected, 6 speed Tremec tranny, vintage ac. Other than that it looked completely stock. Painted Chevy orange with a black interior. Beautiful car. No price on it so I knew I couldn't afford.

Before we left, we stopped at one of the local seafood markets and picked up 5 lbs of lump blue crab meat. Best eating crabs to make crab cakes with, and my wife has a great recipe. We swung through the little "village" my dad was born and raised in in Louisiana, visited with a couple of cousins and picked up 50 lbs of hot Cajun sausage. Best sausage in the world that I have ever eating, and I've been eating it ever since I had teeth I imagine.

Sitting in a hotel in Henrietta, TX and can't wait to get back up to the house. Temps lately have been in the 50's during the day and 30's at night. It was still summer down on the coast, at least to us, and of course humid. Still that way here in Texas. Hunting starts up next month for my wife, cousin, cousin's son and myself. Need to check the rifles to make sure they are still sighted in. Fishing is getting better as the water has been cooling down.

No grass to mow, though. Real hard to have a lawn in the mountains. Though to be honest, I don't mind in the least not having to mow after living for almost 15 years on the gulf coast.

[Bawanna]

Ok what do we have to do to get the picture of the shy wife with the fake shark?

[O'Dell]

Haven't had any rabble rousers (except for myself of course) in quite a while. Probably forgot how to push the button and send them to Glock.




Hey, I'm still here!!!

[Barth]

Felt like I've been the "Black Sheep" of Kahrtalk for many years.
Bought my only Kahr to this day (NIB MK40 Elite with NS) and joined the forum in 2011.
Little monster was tight as a drum new.
Very difficult to field strip and so tight it FTF on FMJs regularly.
That tight I figured is needed to break in.
So lots of Ballistol and 200 rounds later it finally broke in...
Then I ran all brands and weights of JHPs from 135 to 180 gr with zero malfunctions.
Left the gun bone stock except for replacing the plastic RSA with a Wolff steel version.
Never really understood a plastic guide rod in the all stainless steel Elite flagship gun?
My MK40 loves anything 180 gr and shoots lights out for a micro.
Still own and carry it off and on.
The quality, fit and finish is really amazing :cool:

Years later, with many other types of guns and on other gun forums, I'm still here :)

[JohnR]

As for lube, the KISS principle applies. Doesn't matter how good it is, if it requires anything other than "squirt it on and go" it's going to get messed up and fail. Even if you follow the prep instructions to the letter, apparently.

[jeepster09]

Oh....and .380s are not REAL GUNS! :behindsofa:

[DavidR]

Oh....and .380s are not REAL GUNS! :behindsofa:

Most Kahr 380 owners would agree, because their 380s don’t work.

PS - just stirring the pot as my CT380 is fabulous

[mr surveyor]

I learned a few years ago in school that it was a natural law that everything has to be somewhere .... made me realize that I'm still here.

Also, even though the world has soured quite a bit since my 2016 unfortunateness, I still reload something every week and still visit the old man amusement park at least once a week. Also still trying to do the "surveyor thing" a bit too - when I can. Still have most of my original parts although they are mostly used up - and I'm still a kid (relatively speaking).

As for the .380 issue, I have a hard enough time reloading 9mm (pretty seldom at that), so them shorter .380 cases are out of the question. Haven't carried or had a .380 since 2010.

Considering capacity, when I have my "high top boots" on for social occasions I carry two. Is one enough??? Is two too many???

jd

[Barth]

Oh....and .380s are not REAL GUNS! :behindsofa:

Ahh yes, the age old Caliber Wars debate :D

Years ago, long before FBI Protocol Testing and High Tech bullets, the campfire talks raged.
There may have been adult beverages involved... :2eek:

Back then, for you younger folks, there were no 40 S&W or 357 Sig guns.
And revolvers had not yet been mostly abandoned...

1) Many arguments revolved around fast light vs slow heavy rounds.

2) It seemed that most studies appeared to lean towards the 125 gr 357 Magnum
as king of the "One Shot Stop".

3) 9mm and 45 ACP centered around most discussions.

My personal friends, also fellow Black Belts, felt (like the FBI later did) that 9mm just wasn't good enough.
And required multiple hits to be effective (Two in the chest, one in the head).
45 ACP 230 gr Federal Hydra-Shok was considered by many to be Best of the Best.
Being a Black Sheep all my life, my solution to the "Fast Light vs Slow Heavy" problem?
The "Fast Heavy" 44 Magnum 240 gr Federal Hydra-Shok :cool:

Another friend carried 9mm and asked what the difference was with my 44 Mag?
Told him to fill two 1 gallon milk jugs with water, shoot them and find out.
The 9mm punched a small hole in the jug and it urinated in the ditch.
The 44 caused the jug to explode, jump in the air and spray water on all of us!
I mentioned that people are about 60% water.
What do you think that would have done to you?

There were no more questions...

[dao]

Hey! A 380 provides at least as much protection as a condom. Ya just can't have as much fun using it :o

[yqtszhj]

Shot my Ruger LCP .380 a couple of weeks ago for the first time in over a year. Wasn’t any fun. I have to admit, my main carry for probably the past couple of years has been a……. Glock 43.

Since I have hands Lurch on the Addams Family, the slightly larger grip of the 43 with some grip tape just works better than the CM9 or P365. Added the Magguts to the mags and have 7 or 8 rounds. Do carry a G26 or G43x if I need more rounds. Mostly my Kahrs have been doing shelf duty in the safe.

Me being anti-Glock for so long it took a while before I developed the ability to digest all that crow I have to eat now that is served up by everyone who knew my options before, but eating crow is better than going hungry. Plus I don’t care if anything happens to a Glock since they are basically like an old car you drive to work instead of your nice car because you know somebody will put a door ding in it.

[Armybrat]

Most Kahr 380 owners would agree, because their 380s don’t work.

PS - just stirring the pot as my CT380 is fabulous
Mine does with everything except WWB…
But the slide is too darn stiff for me to rack with my arthritic hands, so my middle son owns it now.
I still think it is a really neat little pistol.

[Barth]

Shot my Ruger LCP .380 a couple of weeks ago for the first time in over a year. Wasn’t any fun. I have to admit, my main carry for probably the past couple of years has been a……. Glock 43.

Since I have hands Lurch on the Addams Family, the slightly larger grip of the 43 with some grip tape just works better than the CM9 or P365. Added the Magguts to the mags and have 7 or 8 rounds. Do carry a G26 or G43x if I need more rounds. Mostly my Kahrs have been doing shelf duty in the safe.

Me being anti-Glock for so long it took a while before I developed the ability to digest all that crow I have to eat now that is served up by everyone who knew my options before, but eating crow is better than going hungry. Plus I don’t care if anything happens to a Glock since they are basically like an old car you drive to work instead of your nice car because you know somebody will put a door ding in it.

I find that a Hogue grip sleeve is a real Game Changer on the Ruger LCP/LCP II 380 guns.
No troubles shooting either gun that way :)
https://i.imgur.com/ojUCQ3W.jpg

Being totally reliable, effortless and invisible to carry - the LCP II, with Hornady XTP Custom JHPs, gets the call regularly...
https://i.imgur.com/7DHok5A.jpg?1

[berettabone]

I shoot the wife's LCP ii on occasion. The first time I shot it, I thought it was very accurate for what it was. Not a bad trigger. Neat little going to the mailbox gun.

[Bawanna]

Hey, I'm still here!!!

My bad O'Dell. Slipped my mind for a moment. My apologies.

[Bawanna]

What? No accolades for the venerable 32? My beautiful little Colt Vest Pocket is feeling plumb neglected.

[Barth]

What? No accolades for the venerable 32? My beautiful little Colt Vest Pocket is feeling plumb neglected.

LOL my vest pocket gun is the Ruger LCP II 380.
Only 32 I own is a Beretta 81 Cheetah and it's no Vest Pocket Gun...
Although that Italian job is one sweet shooter :cool:

Mine looks like this -
https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/722x542/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/e/beretta-model-81-lifestyle1.jpg

[yqtszhj]

Although that Italian job is one sweet shooter :cool:


I always liked Italian girls, Spanish too. Oh wait, that’s not where this thread was going….:rolleyes:

[kenemoore]

Ok what do we have to do to get the picture of the shy wife with the fake shark?
I might be able to help. :-)

[Bawanna]

LOL my vest pocket gun is the Ruger LCP II 380.
Only 32 I own is a Beretta 81 Cheetah and it's no Vest Pocket Gun...
Although that Italian job is one sweet shooter :cool:

Mine looks like this -
https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/722x542/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/e/beretta-model-81-lifestyle1.jpg

Always kind of had a hankering for a Cheetah. One of the Sgt's had one he was fond of. Wanted one of the tip up barrel models too.

[Barth]

I always liked Italian girls, Spanish too. Oh wait, that’s not where this thread was going….:rolleyes:

I married a Greek girl (18).
So yes, lets not go there! :ohmy:

[JohnR]

I’d love a .32 Colt vestpocket, just for fun. Too bad they and the ammo are so hard to get. And, .380 should be cheaper than 9mm! It’s less material and weaker, after all!

[Bawanna]

I had a Browning Vest Pocket that was absolutely mint. A friends dad left it to me when he passed. Friend didn't tell me that and then whined about giving it up, so I gave it back. Later I found out it was his dad's wish that I have it. Never would have let it go had I known.
Even had the original receipt and a little carry bag. Bought at the Bon Marche for I think it was 35 bucks. Those were the days.

[berettabone]

LOL my vest pocket gun is the Ruger LCP II 380.
Only 32 I own is a Beretta 81 Cheetah and it's no Vest Pocket Gun...
Although that Italian job is one sweet shooter :cool:

Mine looks like this -
https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/722x542/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/e/beretta-model-81-lifestyle1.jpg I owned an 84FS. IMHO, beautiful design, quality, smooth, as mentioned sweet shooter. One of my first semi autos. Always had a thing for Beretta's. Used one to qualify for my CCL. I sold it because it was a bit heavy for carry and well, you know, it was a .380 and all..................

[Armybrat]

What? No accolades for the venerable 32? My beautiful little Colt Vest Pocket is feeling plumb neglected.

My first mouse gun was this KelTec P32. The brand is much maligned, but that little peashooter ran smoothly with no problems. But when the LCP was introduced, I traded it off towards a Ruger Super Blackhawk.

[dao]

I don't know why Beretta doesn't put all their safeties on the frame, like they have on just a small selection of their models. The slide mounted safeties just make no sense to me. Same with some of the S&W 45xx semi's. And others. They're non-intuitive, needing to be swept up for off, they get in the way of the grip when racking the slide, and they're just not pleasing to the eye. All just my opinion of course.

[berettabone]

It has been a complaint for years. I never had an issue with it and only used the safety as a decocker. They're only non-intuitive if you're used to shooting 1911's. :)

[mr surveyor]

My first mouse gun was this KelTec P32. The brand is much maligned, but that little peashooter ran smoothly with no problems. But when the LCP was introduced, I traded it off towards a Ruger Super Blackhawk.

I still have only one KelTec (of 8-10 different KT products) ... and it's a P32 that I got for my wife. She has no interest in trading it for something else, and really has no interest in shooting at all (but she's all for me doing whatever I want to do with my fun stuff).

The only real issue I know of with the .32 acp design is the possibility of rim lock. Being semi-rimmed, that possibility is real. As long as the COAL fits well in the magazine itself, the chance of rim lock is very much reduced - or eliminated altogether. But, load in a few (or all) shorter hollow point cartridges that may have a propensity to slip forward in the magazine and all bets are off.

If I remember correctly, Seacamp designed his .32 acp pistol (a piece of true art) to be used with a certain brand (can't remember which anymore) of expensive hollow points ... and designed the magazine specifically for that COAL to eliminate any chance of the cartridges being able to "lunge" forward. Since hollow point bullets weren't commonplace in the very early days of the .32 acp pistol, rim-lock probably wasn't a consideration.

For some reason, I still like the cartridge ... although it's the only centerfire in my little collection I don't reload for.

jd

[AJBert]

Got home last night around 7:30 pm to a nice, cool 39 degrees. Dog went ballistic as normal. 30 degrees when I got up at a quarter to six this morning. Was hoping I could sleep until noon but the dog got me up. He's still pretty happy we are home.

Oh, I did ask my wife if she minded posting the photo up. She not only said no, but H*#) NO!!! If it helps everyone out a bit, I will say is no longer that spring blossom I married 31 years ago, but she is still the love of my wife and looks more beautiful to me every day.

[Bawanna]

Well one certainly can't argue with H*#) NO!!! Weren't no gutter mind thoughts running thru my small mind when I asked. Might comfort her to hear that.

Most of us aren't the same as we was 30 years ago. I'm pretty damn close but that's kind of rare.

[JohnR]

Wow, 30 years ago 1992. Where did the time go?

[dao]

It has been a complaint for years. I never had an issue with it and only used the safety as a decocker. They're only non-intuitive if you're used to shooting 1911's. :)

I never used mine as a safety either, but never did convert any of them to G models. My biggest complaint no them is they did not make racking the slide any easier. :)

I'm pretty damn close but that's kind of rare.

Thanks for the chuckle Colonel :D

[Barth]

I still have only one KelTec (of 8-10 different KT products) ... and it's a P32 that I got for my wife. She has no interest in trading it for something else, and really has no interest in shooting at all (but she's all for me doing whatever I want to do with my fun stuff).

The only real issue I know of with the .32 acp design is the possibility of rim lock. Being semi-rimmed, that possibility is real. As long as the COAL fits well in the magazine itself, the chance of rim lock is very much reduced - or eliminated altogether. But, load in a few (or all) shorter hollow point cartridges that may have a propensity to slip forward in the magazine and all bets are off.

If I remember correctly, Seacamp designed his .32 acp pistol (a piece of true art) to be used with a certain brand (can't remember which anymore) of expensive hollow points ... and designed the magazine specifically for that COAL to eliminate any chance of the cartridges being able to "lunge" forward. Since hollow point bullets weren't commonplace in the very early days of the .32 acp pistol, rim-lock probably wasn't a consideration.

For some reason, I still like the cartridge ... although it's the only centerfire in my little collection I don't reload for.

jd

Back in the day, If memory serves, it was Winchester Silvertips for the Seecamp 32.
These days their website recommends the following ammunition:
http://seecamp.com/ammunition.htm​
I almost pick one up on several occasions...

[jeepster09]

Well anybody still having a PAYPAL account may want to think about closing it.....they are now WOKE and if you post anywhere something THEY DON'T LIKE it will cost you! Read your new USER AGREEMENT they just sent out. I closed my account.

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Last updated on November 3, 2022. You are independently responsible for complying with all applicable laws in all of your actions related to your use of PayPal's services, regardless of the purpose of the use. In addition, you must adhere to the terms of this Acceptable Use Policy. Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account(s) as outlined in the User Agreement (see “Restricted Activities and Holds” section of the PayPal User Agreement)

[JohnR]

Paypal has since said, “Never mind.” Or, ha ha made ya look.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-paypal-policy-permits-company-to-fine-users-2500-for-misinformation/

[jeepster09]

Pay Pal also refuses to allow any firearms RELATED sales of any sort....good bye Pay Pal. NEVER MIND Pay Pal.....stay WOKE by yourself.

[dao]

QUOTE=jeepster09;433193]Well anybody still having a PAYPAL account may want to think about closing it.....they are now WOKE and if you post anywhere something THEY DON'T LIKE it will cost you! Read your new USER AGREEMENT they just sent out. I closed my account.

5. involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable, (b) depict or appear to depict nudity, sexual or other intimate activities, (c) depict or promote illegal drug use, (d) depict or promote violence,  criminal activity, cruelty, or self-harm (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) (f) present a risk to user safety or wellbeing, (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation, or are unlawful, (h) infringe the privacy, intellectual property rights, or other proprietary rights of any party, or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication.

Last updated on November 3, 2022. You are independently responsible for complying with all applicable laws in all of your actions related to your use of PayPal's services, regardless of the purpose of the use. In addition, you must adhere to the terms of this Acceptable Use Policy. Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account(s) as outlined in the User Agreement (see “Restricted Activities and Holds” section of the PayPal User Agreement)

[/QUOTE]

Um, I'm not going to defend Paypal in spite of using them without issue for many years. But in all that time jeep I have not received a message such as this. And...November 3, 2022 has not arrived yet. So how were the terms last updated on that day? Are you sure you didn't received this from an address in Nigeria?

One thing that they do, which I have spoken with them about, is to send emails that contain links in them. Early on I was in fairly regular contact with their spoof department and discussed with them the downside of sending such emails, because they aid the bad guys. They didn't listen, and so now their emails to me that contain my monthly statement, which may or may not be legit, go unopened and therefore unread. So I guess they could have sent me a similar message though I doubt it would be pre-dated such as that one appears to be. If it was legit...

[JohnR]

Paypal also forbids booze and tobacco sales, and gambling, by the way.

[jeepster09]

I received it from PAY PAL. It stated it was upcoming changes to agreement. I have no need for them being anti-gun etc. Every company I have dealt with on line, takes credit card and credit card company gives you security against fraud.

[AJBert]

i banned PayPal many moons ago. Haven't missed them in the least.

[jeepster09]

PAY PAL.....

https://rumble.com/v1ncvkm-my-thoughts-on-paypals-insane-policy-announcement...-watch..html

[kenemoore]

I killed my paypal account yesterday, only used it to buy/sell stuff on the 1911 forum.

[JohnR]

For all who dropped Paypal, you do know they rescinded that stupid policy, right? But just to have hoisted it up the flagpole to see who salutes it is probably reason enough to drop them.

[yqtszhj]

I quit a job that paid me well because they wanted to try and tell me what was right and wrong. I’ll be darned if I let some online company charge me money then tell me what is right and wrong.

So long PayPal, and thanks for handling the transaction for those M1A parts I sold about 4 years ago. :p

[Planedude]

The only thing I use PayPal for is my Mustache wax every four or five months...

They get zero other biz from me. Meh!

Now if they ever actually do go "stupid anti-gun" instead of "we're stupid and we think guns are stupid... so there!" well then I'll find a different way to pay... that night!

Peace

[Bawanna]

I don't keep any money in PayPal as I don't often sell stuff but I use it to buy stuff. Just about everything online is anti - everything I believe in. So far it's convenient. I do use other options if available but sometimes it's just easier.

[Bawanna]

Saturday morning and not a single new post. Man the life boats, we need to kickstart this forum.

[berettabone]

Missing a lot of the former regulars. Where'd they all go????

[Bawanna]

In the past I've contacted many of them, guess I should do that again. Some just lose interest, pursue other hobbies, just busy with life. Maybe some just hate me.

[jeepster09]

I think I saw some the other day...off skipping in the fields. :hippie:

[JohnR]

I was at my parents house with my brother, getting the low down on their estate planning.

[Wlfman13]

With the supply of ammo seemingly reappearing, with demand apparently keeping the price up, I’ve done a lot of carrying but zero shooting. I’ve been here lurking, but haven’t had any tidbits of entertainment nor wisdom to bore anyone with.

Our son came back into town and expressed interest in going to the range. Now, that is an opportunity worth burning through some ammo. Still too young to buy handgun ammo, he asked about the price in an interesting way. “Hey dad. In today’s prices, how much will it cost to shoot 10 rounds?” “Six bucks. Roughly. For 9mm.” He knows how many boxes we normally take to the range, and his eyes got a little large doing the quick calculation(s). 😂

-Wlf

[JohnR]

My eyes get large from that, too. :(

[getsome]

My eyes got large tonight at the grocery store when I saw a box of cereal I like priced at $7.89 a box……..Thanks Brandon

[Barth]

My eyes got large tonight at the grocery store when I saw a box of cereal I like priced at $7.89 a box……..Thanks Brandon
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[kenemoore]

When my wife got in bad shape late last year, I quit work to care for her, and did not do any shooting until May of this year.
When I was working I shot around 400-600 round a month. Now with limited income, I only sh0ot around 100-150 rounds a month.
In my opinion, everyone should shoot at least 50 rounds a month through their primary carry piece. My last range visit was last Thursday, shot 125 rounds of .45ACP in my CCO and a PM45.
I have had the ammo for a few years, the boxes were marked $15.00 for 50 rounds of range ammo.
The last 45 ACP I bought was around 23.00 so prices are not what they were, but are slowly dropping. When it was over $30.00, I shot 22LR instead.

[mr surveyor]

I still haven't bought any centerfire ammunition since 2010. Started reloading in early 2011 and never looked back, but that was the beginning of the obbumer ammo/component shortage so I learned early to stock up when things were available. At that time I was learning that it was necessary to limit my range trips to once a week and about 50-100 rounds per trip. The brain surgery misfortune of 2016 tended to change that up a little, but a month after the second (emergency) brain surgery I was getting my grandson to drive me to the range to shoot 10-20 rounds sitting at the bench. The availability of reloading components became "decent" in 2017, so I made it a point to keep a couple pounds of my favorite powders stashed back and a couple bricks of primers of each of what I use (SPP, LPP, LRP) on hand. I haven't bought primers from the gun shop or other commercial vendors since May of 2020 and wasn't expecting an instant shortage starting a month later. That's when I decided to limit myself to no more than 20 rounds from the lever guns and no more than 20 rounds through a handgun .... but dammit, I'm still going to the old man amusement park at least once a week. I have plenty of various powders on hand, but down to about 2K of each variety of primers. Since I shoot mainly cast bullets in everything, I should order at least 500 of 5-6 different bullet profiles I shoot while they're still available.

jd

[Barth]

Thought about Biden and the cost of ammo/firearms these days.
Bought 500 rounds of Winchester Ranger T 147 gr 9mm (50 @ $27.95) just because I could :p
Can't recall the last time I went shooting... :mad:
Have the last half of November and December off on vacation.
Will make a point of squeezing off some rounds before the new year :D

New gun prices are absurd though.
2016 bought a NIB HK VP9 @ $449.99.
2019 Added a HK VP9 9mm Long Slide Conversion Kit @ $369.99.
At this point I had an extra VP9 slide with no receiver frame.
2022 FDE Receiver Frame @ $350 :cool:
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[dao]

I think part of the reason things are a bit slow is due to Kahr's seeming disinterest in bringing anything new to market. All of the regulars here seem to be long time Kahr enthusiasts. Well, after awhile it's hard to come up with new things to talk about concerning these great guns, in spite of how great they can be. I have a feeling that if Kahr started pumping out new products, such as a steel framed .45 for example, we'd have a proportional increase in posts and activity here.
I'm thankful though for those that are here and that it's a great place to discuss our shared interest and hobby with like-minded people.
Here's a virtual tip of that hat to all the good folks that choose to stick around and participate here!:yo:

[getsome]

Yep, ^ what he said…..Kahr seems to only be interested in the AO and Magnum Research side of the business and Kahr handguns are the stepchild now……..

[LabTrek]

I live about 6 miles from Kahr’s main facility in Greeley, PA. Been there countless times and became a loyal customer and carrier of Kahr pistols. It seems to me that to a large extent Kahr has been constrained by its original design. While revolutionary in its time for bringing a full caliber to a compact pistol the design has limited further enhancements. The offset feed ramp, location of trigger bar, location of striker, cam, where magazine sits because of these features, mass (amount of material of slide), etc. all contribute to issues that have not yet been able to be overcome. They are not ignoring bringing new products to the market. There is interest in bringing pistols with optics ready slides and double or more likely 1.5 stacked pistols to market. Optics ready pistols likely first.


Another issue is as newer generations of shooters come into the market they don’t consider Kahr because of perceived insufficient capacity and the trigger, not understanding it is a pistol designed for self defense. Go to any gun store or shooting range in the area (other then the one they own) and they all diss Kahr pistols. Those of us who appreciate and enjoy Kahr pistols seem to be on the back 9. I’m probably walking up the 14th fairway. The younger bucks don’t seem to be interested. Not sure how they can capture the younger market.


An interesting observation from seeing their corporate showroom, Tommy Gun Warehouse, since it opened is the evolution of the pistols sold there. When it first opened the only pistols in the display cases were Kahr Firearms Group pistols. Sales were not good, they added a Glock section. Over time they added more manufacturers, Sig, FN, Smith, CZ etc. Even in their own showroom the top sellers for compact pistols are P365 and Hellcat.


While I don’t usually partake in caliber or capacity wars, what ever works for you, it does get harder to justifying carrying my TP9-2, I do love it, at 8+1 vs carrying my same sized P365 XL with 15+1. I hope I’m wrong but my perception is the market for Kahr pistols is stagnant and aging. I wonder even if Kahr does overcome the challenges and brings new products to market if it will be to late?

[dao]

Justin Moon and his design patents took the gun world by storm in the early 90's. If he was interested I'm sure that he could come up with other radical designs that could help them to compete. We have not seen the best gun that can be yet, from any manufacturer. That design is somewhere in the future and Kahr could be the designer. If they care to be. But at the least they could tag onto others' incremental designs and stay in the game. There are many people who like double action only triggers and a PM9 with 12+1 would be welcomed by many of them just as the Hellcat and P365 were with their offerings. Same with a K45 having a 9 or 10+1 capacity.
This being said I admit that I'm not a businessman and I don't know what Justin Moon knows. There could be valid business decisions involved here which I have no inkling of. I'm not bashing him or Kahr, but as a long time Kahr owner I would like to see some improvements made to these guns that would help me in coming to the conclusion that buying another one would be a sound decision on my part. Especially in light of the fact that I already own several of the low-capacity variants.

[Barth]

I've said it over and over again.
But I'll say it one more time.
I'd totally love, and truly believe would sell well, a Kahr all stainless K45.
Personally would like it 1911 Commander Bobtail sized (like an Ed Brown Kobra Carry / Dan Wesson V-Bob).
A Premium Elite gun with the very best of Kahr (especially the trigger).
I know it would be costly.
But quality 1911s certainly can be costly and still sell well...

Even with a flooded 1911 market.
There's no 1911 sized, all steel, single stack with Kahr semi-auto design internals.
Super high quality, very accurate with a glassy DAO trigger.
Maybe it's just me.
But I've been dying for such a gun for decades.
There could even be a fancy engraved version with custom grips.
The K45 Commander Elite BBQ Gun! :cool:

[dao]

I hear ya man. You're not alone!

[O'Dell]

Over almost thirty years I have owned eight Kahrs. Currently I have four - CM45, CW45, PM9, and my favorite a MK40. I carry for defense and five or six rounds are plenty - you can always carry a spare mag or two if you think you might go to a war. I have never had a problem with a Kahr and have never even called the company except for a build date or two. About 90% of the time I have a Kahr in my pocket [PM9] or in my holster ever though I have ten others to choose from including SIGs, HK's, Kimber, SA, etc. My only complaint with the inventory is that I think they should build an MK45. Now that would be a super pistol.

[JohnR]

Most companies have a golden era of their manufacturing when quality was highest, and they can have multiple such eras with changes in management, ownership etc. Do Kahrs from any particular era seem better (fewer problems) than other eras? I know we're only talking thirty years or so, but it's possible.

[Bawanna]

Sure seems like we have far less issues now days than we did 5 or 10 years ago.

[getsome]

My PM9 has never had any malfunction of any kind from first shot to about 1000 rounds give or take a few and I feel very well armed with 7 shots of 9mm if I do my part……I never go looking for trouble and always try to ease out of a situation that might go bad but if trouble comes looking, I feel more than ready………..

[Wlfman13]

When my wife got in bad shape late last year, I quit work to care for her, and did not do any shooting until May of this year.
When I was working I shot around 400-600 round a month. Now with limited income, I only sh0ot around 100-150 rounds a month.
In my opinion, everyone should shoot at least 50 rounds a month through their primary carry piece. My last range visit was last Thursday, shot 125 rounds of .45ACP in my CCO and a PM45.
I have had the ammo for a few years, the boxes were marked $15.00 for 50 rounds of range ammo.
The last 45 ACP I bought was around 23.00 so prices are not what they were, but are slowly dropping. When it was over $30.00, I shot 22LR instead.


I can not agree more. The lack of shooting on my part has really been bugging me. I have gotten myself into the realm of “Well, this will be a good test. Will the pistol function on every shot out of two mags, and can I hit what I’m aiming at, quickly?” I have 100% full confidence that the answer to both of those questions is “yes”. However, if the answer ends up being “no”, I won’t be a happy camper.

Years ago, I went to the range with my P380 and shot 200 rounds without a hiccup. 2 weeks later, I returned, and the first round went “click”. Seriously. My striker was broken. A trip to Kahr fixed the issue with a Lakeline “unbreakable” striker, but I wish I had a video so I could see the look on my face when I got a “click” on the very first shot.