View Full Version : M&P Shield Redux?
BirdsThaWord
12-21-2022, 01:10 PM
In the latest issue of American Rifleman. Looks like Shield EZ with rmr plate and Berretta like slide serrations. Who's gettin one?
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JohnR
12-21-2022, 01:48 PM
Single action hammer fired trigger. Nice idea, but I'm perfectly fine without that gun.
Why they can't make every semiauto "easy rack" I don't understand. Maybe some day...
BirdsThaWord
12-21-2022, 03:34 PM
Why they can't make every semiauto "easy rack" I don't understand. Maybe some day...
I have wondered the same.
My LGS will no longer take my Kahrs in trade because he can't sell them. Whenever someone picks one up they comment about the difficulty in racking them and go on to the next. I use Arachna-grips on those that I still carry. Had to move my wife away from them entirely.
yqtszhj
12-21-2022, 05:38 PM
I use Arachna-grips on those that I still carry. Had to move my wife away from them entirely.
Those work good and I need to get a couple
JohnR
12-21-2022, 05:40 PM
I was relieved to find that my used T9 racks easily. The recoil spring might be old, but it cycles fine. The K9 was a bear to rack.
Armybrat
12-21-2022, 07:58 PM
All my Kahrs were easy to rack except the CT380.
Solved that problem by gifting it to one of my sons last summer for his birthday. 😁
BirdsThaWord
12-22-2022, 11:41 PM
Lucky son!
Grizzly
12-23-2022, 12:01 AM
The problem many complain about with those EZs is that grip safety. Many never complain about it but many also think that as perfect as your grip has to be to keep it engaged, that it is too risky for a defensive handgun.
BirdsThaWord
12-23-2022, 08:12 AM
The problem many complain about with those EZs is that grip safety. Many never complain about it but many also think that as perfect as your grip has to be to keep it engaged, that it is too risky for a defensive handgun.
1911 "ish", if you would. Yes, I've a 1911 or 2 where I have not squeezed the grip safety well enough to activate it, so it would not fire. I do love 1911's, above anything else, but for me at least they are for the range. I do not carry them. There are others here that will tell me the errors of my ways, and that practice, practice practice would have me overcoming the stumbling block. They are not wrong, I'm just kinda getting set with what I carry these days.
Bawanna
12-23-2022, 12:32 PM
We had a city councilman that was a career SEAL. Devout 1911 guy. Everyone (he brought in a bunch for show and tell when he heard I was a gun guy) had a thin metal piece that wrapped around and held the grip safety down. He had several made up. Just wrapped around and over the upper grip screw under the grip. Did this rather than pin. His hand shape and all the shooting he'd done just didn't activate the safety.
It was kind of scary to me at first but pondering it there still more safety that way than a Glock or a Sig 365 by far.
187911
12-23-2022, 02:26 PM
For the SAO trigger with a short length of pull of the1911, I would require a grip safety and believe it makes sense and is nessasary. If I AIWB carried or had young children and wanted an extra layer of safety, I wouldn't mind a grip safety of the XD and XDM. For everything else, it doesn't make much sense.
Bawanna
12-23-2022, 06:37 PM
I too would never be comfy disabling the grip safety on my 1911's. I've never had an issue not activating them when gripped.
I recall many years ago actually being semi afraid to carry a 1911. A sgt at work got me back to my senses when we discussed all the safeties on the 1911. I was carrying a Glock at the time. What safeties do you have on that Glock. Suddenly the 1911 seemed really safe to me.
JohnR
12-23-2022, 07:12 PM
But… trigger dongle!
BirdsThaWord
12-24-2022, 08:20 AM
But… trigger dongle!
Sounds kinky! Maybe I should get one of those for the wife?
JohnR
12-24-2022, 09:41 AM
Doo it!
O'Dell
12-24-2022, 12:09 PM
My Detonics Combat Master compact 1911 doesn't have a grip safety. The SIG, STI, Kimber, and SA do of course.
Bawanna
12-24-2022, 02:42 PM
Man! didn't know you had a Detonics. They used to be local to me and one of their smiths actually worked on one of my 1911's. I think it was a Colt Officers Model.
Your's looks mint in every way.
O'Dell
12-24-2022, 03:37 PM
All my pistols are mint. This picture is ten years old, and I sold the Ruger LCP and Kahr CW40, but added another HK compact 45 and a Kahr CM45. This leaves me with two nines [one not pictured] two 40's and eleven 45's. The bottom row shows my 1911's.
BirdsThaWord
12-24-2022, 05:56 PM
Doo it!
I went onto Amazon… they were all out of trigger dongles. Guess I gotta check the local adult store. Being Christmas, maybe they are all in short supply. I will ask the associate. What do you think they will say? :p
BirdsThaWord
12-24-2022, 05:58 PM
My Detonics Combat Master compact 1911 doesn't have a grip safety. The SIG, STI, Kimber, and SA do of course.
Sweet looking lil officer! I have not seen those come up very often. That’s one to hold on to. The one’s I’ve seen seem to fetch a premium. Maybe common back in the day, but apparently a rare bird these days.
BirdsThaWord
12-24-2022, 06:00 PM
All my pistols are mint. This picture is ten years old, and I sold the Ruger LCP and Kahr CW40, but added another HK compact 45 and a Kahr CM45. This leaves me with two nines [one not pictured] two 40's and eleven 45's. The bottom row shows my 1911's.
Nice collection! I tried to blow up the pic, but it got all fuzzy. What is the one on the lower right? Looks like a long slide version of the C3 you have over on the left?
JohnR
12-24-2022, 08:03 PM
I went onto Amazon… they were all out of trigger dongles. Guess I gotta check the local adult store. Being Christmas, maybe they are all in short supply. I will ask the associate. What do you think they will say? :p
I expect they’ve heard every euphemism imaginable :cool:
Bawanna
12-24-2022, 08:29 PM
A very loosely related story to trigger dongles. My second career way back in the day was installing fences. All chain link. Galvanized everything, we'd cement post in and come back a week or so later and put up the rail and wire. This combination of galvanizing and the lye in the cement which we hand mixed in a wheelbarrow was pure hell on hands. Especially for new guys with girlyman soft hands. Most hated gloves and they didn't help all that much anyhow.
Anyhow we had a new kid (I weren't much more than a kid my own self) and of course his hands were cracked and bleeding pretty bad.
We'd discovered the best thing breaking in was Bag Balm. Comes in a square green can, looks kind of like Vaseline but don't smell as good and maybe thicker. It's actually made for putting on cows' udders, not sure we're allowed to say **** around here.
So anyhow I told him all this and told him to hit the drug store and get some and use it for a while to save his hands. So, he hits the store and his story was a cute gal saw him searching the shelves and asked he she could help him find something. Told her he was looking for Bag Balm. Of course, she didn't have a clue what it was, so he was gonna impress her with his vast knowledge and told her you smear it on your **** to keep them from cracking and drying out. (apparently left out the part about the cow). Well needless to say the cute gal was some put out at the very thought, and he thought she was gonna get physical in an unpleasant manner. Fortunately there was another rather old gal working next aisle over and heard the exchange.
She came over and saved his life, told her not on your **** but on cows **** and took him right to the stuff. He lived to put up another fence another day.
True story.
I knew it, can't say tit's, guess I should have went with mammary glands. Course I never heard of a cow with mammary glands. Oh well.
What????? Tit's, ****. We can say tit's but not ****. My apologies, I'm way overthinking this.
O'Dell
12-25-2022, 12:39 AM
Nice collection! I tried to blow up the pic, but it got all fuzzy. What is the one on the lower right? Looks like a long slide version of the C3 you have over on the left?
The bottom row of 1911's are left to right: SIG C3, STI, Detonics, Kimber, and Springfield full size ultralight. The Springfield has an alloy frame and is about 10 oz lighter than a regular 1911. BTW, I'm told that the size and design of the Detonics Combat Master was made for and the first 500 were issued by the CIA. If true, I guess that puts to shame the 32 carried by James Bond.
jeepster09
12-25-2022, 07:50 AM
My "wanna be 45 1911" Sig in 9mm aint got no stinkin grip safety. :ohmy:
kenemoore
12-25-2022, 08:34 AM
I have read stories about "special" task force cops that would tie wet raw hide strings around the grip safety on their 1911's. When it dried, it would keep the grip safety engaged. Also, some even removed the trigger guard, so they could be just a tad faster on the draw.
Bawanna
12-25-2022, 11:08 AM
Yeah there was a famous Texas Rangers that cut the trigger guard. Can't recall his name at the moment. That seems very scary but guess it worked for them.
BirdsThaWord
12-25-2022, 11:17 AM
Scary! Some of these "solutions" sound like a death wish, or at least a negligent discharge ticking time bomb.
Funny you mention those Rangers Colonel. I was just chatting with my lgs friend, who is into 1911's like me. He was showing me a pic of one of those Ranger guns with the trigger guard cut off.
Bawanna
12-25-2022, 11:45 AM
I believe it was Wyatt Earps revolver we saw at the Red Dog Saloon in Alaska that had the trigger guard cut off. We were told he was on the way to the gold fields with his wife and checked his gun in and left without it. Never came back for it. They have it hanging on the wall behind the bar. They wouldn't let me hold it.
Barth
12-25-2022, 10:42 PM
My personal favorite 45
https://i.imgur.com/Gj6bq64.jpg
dustnchips
12-26-2022, 05:58 AM
Probably wasn't Wayatts, he preferred hitting people with a gun instead of shooting them. I would think a trigger guard would be part of a good grip on the gun for this.
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