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glahr
01-08-2023, 03:56 PM
I picked up a new pm-9 and went read through the manual cleaned and did the safety check on the striker as per the manual. With the slide off I pulled the striker back 1/4 inch and released it. The striker protruded from breech which according to the manual is not correct. Posted pictures of my slide and safety check from manual. I called Kahr and they said to fill out an RMA online and they would send me an authorization number. I filled it out but have not received an RMA yet from Kahrr. It's been about 5 days. Has anyone seen this in any of their Kahr PM9 or other models. Thanks Craig


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Bawanna
01-08-2023, 04:05 PM
There's a plunger on the bottom of the slide that I believe is the drop safety. If it is not depress the striker will not move forward. When you depress it you should be able to hear (if you have better hearing than me) the slide rattle.
With the striker back it should not move forward unless that plunger is depress which the slide accomplishes under normal firing.
Let us know if your not getting what I'm talking about.

glahr
01-08-2023, 05:40 PM
Bawana
It is clear to me what you are describing. The striker block functions as it should. The striker is fully extended after a trigger pull that is used to remove the slide. It's when I pull the striker back a quarter inch to reengage the striker block the striker does not clear the breach all the way. It also doesn't rattle in the fire position as my Glock 19 does. Mine is being held under spring tension whether forward after a trigger pull or locked by the striker block. According to the manual when you pull the striker back a quarter inch it locks into place and should not protrude from the breach as mine does.
Thanks Craig

Bawanna
01-08-2023, 05:58 PM
Were it me I'd load two rounds and shoot it to see if the second round goes off on cycle. We've heard of protruding strikers before but it always turned out to be a non issue.

Your sounds different in that you mention spring tension. Sounds like a trip back to Kahr might be the safest route. Just have to know it's right. Myself I'd have to try a couple rounds just to know. But it's probably safest not to listen to me.

Do let us know how this all shakes out.

Bawanna
01-08-2023, 06:02 PM
I wonder if we could incorporate the pencil trick as a means of testing. Take a pencil with a good square eraser, with the gun verified empty and ready to fire, point it straight up with the pencil down the barrel. Pull the trigger and hold it back. The pencil should have flown out. Without releasing the trigger rack the slide and put the pencil back down the barrel, nope, I'm thinking this just isn't gonna work. Would have to have some primed empty cases to see if the second one fires on lock up.

Show me 10-10 on the side pondering.

yqtszhj
01-08-2023, 06:45 PM
Sounds like a trip back to Kahr might be the safest route. Just have to know it's right. .

Im with Bawanna right here. None of my 5 Kahrs I own at the moment have the striker protruding from the breech face after the striker is pulled back unless the striker block is depressed.

topgun1953
01-08-2023, 09:47 PM
Greetings! Are you saying with the striker block up (not depressed), you can pull the striker back, release it, and the tip protrudes into the breech?

glahr
01-08-2023, 11:15 PM
Are you saying with the striker block up (not depressed), you can pull the striker back, release it, and the tip protrudes into the breech?
Yes, that is correct.

It passes the pencil test.

I'm thinking once I finally get in an RMA number from Karh it'll be quite a while before I get the gun back since it's been 5 days and no RMA yet.

Bawanna
01-09-2023, 10:40 AM
Never hurts to follow up, you might have got lost in the system. I'd send another email just like the first requesting the RMA.

glahr
01-09-2023, 11:26 AM
Never hurts to follow up, you might have got lost in the system.

Called Kahr. They said the email went out same day. Check my SPAM folder and it was there. FedEx was supposed to send a label at cars request but it never came. Mark at Kahr immediately sent a label. Now I have to navigate the crazy California gun laws for shipping firearms especially here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Will call the gun shop I purchase the gun from as they may have to ship it back.

Bawanna
01-09-2023, 02:46 PM
This frequently happens. A goof on our end and everybody is ticked off at Kahr. If they sent a label Kahr is picking up the shipping cost. So it's just like an FFL shipping to another FFL. You should be able to go to any FedEx outlet and send it. If you have to pay to ship the dealer can usually ship much cheaper than you can.
Also some outlets mailbox stores etc are just anti gun. They refuse to ship. Take it to another mail box or to a main hub and they ship without issue. It's a tangled web for sure.

DJK11
01-10-2023, 06:14 AM
Waite a minute here, you purchased this pistol from a local gun shop? If so, the shop should handle and rectify any problems. Isn’t that called customer service?

topgun1953
01-10-2023, 06:25 PM
Yes, that is correct.

It passes the pencil test.

I'm thinking once I finally get in an RMA number from Karh it'll be quite a while before I get the gun back since it's been 5 days and no RMA yet.

Strange. Sounds like the striker block isn’t blocking. I assume it would still protrude if you pulled it back half inch and released it. In any case, Kahr will get it straightened out for you. Let’s us know what they say.

glahr
01-10-2023, 10:39 PM
Sounds like the striker block isn’t blocking. I assume it would still protrude if you pulled it back half inch and released it
It is strange. The striker block is blocking when you pull the striker back a quarter inch release it. It protrudes less after you pull it back a quarter inch but not all the way into the breach. I boxed it up and put the car return label on it and dropped it off at FedEx this afternoon. There is no issue at FedEx shipping the firearm. I did not expect or ask the place I bought it to be responsible to make them pistol right. They do not manufacture it again I don't believe they should be responsible for the repairs. I will follow up when I get the firearm back. I appreciate all the input from everyone here thanks Craig

Bawanna
01-11-2023, 12:15 AM
Reading this last post I got a feeling Kahr is not going to find anything wrong. Anxious to hear what they say.

DJK11
01-11-2023, 05:51 AM
Best of luck, I’m sure Kahr will correct it and all will be good. It would take just a few minutes to pull the striker and block for an inspection. Plus you would know how to strip the slide for cleaning and be a step ahead.

glahr
02-01-2023, 09:02 PM
I got my PM9 back from kahr yesterday. They had it for less than 3 weeks. They found a cracked striker spacer and replaced it. The gun now passes the safety check. No more protruding striker. The gun also ejects live rounds now with out jamming. They also test fired the 3 magazines that came with my pm9 cleaned and oil. Great service and fast turn around. Looking forward to getting to the range to fire for 1st time.

Thanks for all who contributed.

Craig

dao
02-01-2023, 09:47 PM
Thanks for posting the followup Craig. Not everyone bothers. Helps us all to learn new stuff.

FreeMe
02-02-2023, 10:35 AM
I got my PM9 back from kahr yesterday. They had it for less than 3 weeks. They found a cracked striker spacer and replaced it. The gun now passes the safety check. No more protruding striker. The gun also ejects live rounds now with out jamming. They also test fired the 3 magazines that came with my pm9 cleaned and oil. Great service and fast turn around. Looking forward to getting to the range to fire for 1st time.

Thanks for all who contributed.

Craig

Great news!

topgun1953
02-05-2023, 09:40 AM
That's great. Thanks for reporting back to us as your experience adds to the great wealth of Kahr knowledge here on the forum.

glahr
02-06-2023, 11:13 PM
Thanks for reporting back

I've learned so much over the years from forms that I'm a big believer in them.
I've also followed many threads where people had problems similar to mine and the original poster will come back and say problem solved but never give the solution.
Members take the time to try to help you solve your problem it's only right to give back

Thanks Craig