Kahr 9mm 8 or 10 Round Mags In PM9?

[djd100]

Hi all, I have a qual early next year and I'm trying to figure out how to run the course of fire without reloading mags?

I have Magguts +1 equipped 7(8), and 6(7), and a 7 and 6, for a total of 28 rounds (nothing allowed in the pipe at qual), and the qual is 36 rounds so I need 8 more. Will the Kahr 8 or 10 round mags work in the PM9?

Last time it was a PITA with the whole firing line waiting for me to load a couple of mags LOL!

Thx...

[white cloud]

I too am interested in this.

[sorcerer]

How many shots per string of fire? If you can get the extended magazine with the filler peace that would be better. Ether way keep your fingers off the extended magazines as much as possible. If you have the time you could build fillers for the extended magazines, it helps to not over drive the magazines at slide lock.

[wyntrout]

What he said. Gripping the bare magazine body changes your grip and possibly your point of aim.

I didn't have 10-rounders, but at the range and for carry reloads, liked to use the 8-rounders for that extra shot or two... PM9(sold) or my P9 now. If I carry the P9, it is with an 8-round reload in on-belt mag carrier on my opposite side. I do have IWB and on-belt mag carriers, but increasingly less space inside the waistline. :p

More carried ammo is always better, especially with small capacity single-stack Kahrs.

[djd100]

How many shots per string of fire? If you can get the extended magazine with the filler peace that would be better. Ether way keep your fingers off the extended magazines as much as possible. If you have the time you could build fillers for the extended magazines, it helps to not over drive the magazines at slide lock.

Great, that's a yes then!

12 rounds per string, 6 + 6 with reload, 3 strings. I have four filler extensions, two Lakeline and two Kahr, should work slid up to the grip. Great news, thank you!

[djd100]

What he said. Gripping the bare magazine body changes your grip and possibly your point of aim.

I didn't have 10-rounders, but at the range and for carry reloads, liked to use the 8-rounders for that extra shot or two... PM9(sold) or my P9 now. If I carry the P9, it is with an 8-round reload in on-belt mag carrier on my opposite side. I do have IWB and on-belt mag carriers, but increasingly less space inside the waistline. :p

More carried ammo is always better, especially with small capacity single-stack Kahrs.

Great, thank you!

I have the four mag extension sleeves, so I'll use the un-extended 6 rounders close in, and the various extended mags further out for a full three finger grip, done deal!

I have that same waistline affliction LOL!

[dao]

What he said. Gripping the bare magazine body changes your grip and possibly your point of aim.

I didn't have 10-rounders, but at the range and for carry reloads, liked to use the 8-rounders for that extra shot or two... PM9(sold) or my P9 now. If I carry the P9, it is with an 8-round reload in on-belt mag carrier on my opposite side. I do have IWB and on-belt mag carriers, but increasingly less space inside the waistline. :p

More carried ammo is always better, especially with small capacity single-stack Kahrs.

We recently picked up the boxed set of "Blue Bloods". I cringe whenever the main character (Danny), goes into a gunfight with his K40. The setting is back in the 2010s. So you know that bad guys were not rocking revolvers or low capacity autos of any kind.

[Bawanna]

Yeah but Danny's K40 holds 26 rounds. Welcome to Hollywood. Steven Segals 1911's hold 32.

[187911]

We recently picked up the boxed set of "Blue Bloods". I cringe whenever the main character (Danny), goes into a gunfight with his K40. The setting is back in the 2010s. So you know that bad guys were not rocking revolvers or low capacity autos of any kind.

Why cringe? Criminals had higher capacity fullautos, semiautos, and semiautomatic rifles for decades even back when revolvers were standard issued in the majority of departments. Multiple armed attackers existed back then too. I simply carry a spare magazines or 2 if I want more capacity. The KISS method.

/ENDRANT

[dao]

Yeah, there is that Colonel, though they at least try for realism as I've seen him swap mags after 6 or 7 rounds. Sometimes. Other times it's like you said.

It is simple really. Why go into a gunfight with less than you can? I see other cops on the show with Glocks, so it's not departmental policy. Of course it's all fiction but still, to me at least, cringeworthy. Just the same as I felt bad for the Elliot Ness cops that had to face those criminals with their tommyguns.

/NORANT

[Bawanna]

Detectives usually have more flex as far as what they carry. Our dept was that way. If they put on a uniform they carry the standard issue.
Kahrs used to be on the approved NYPD carry list, hence that horrible NY trigger that no longer exist.

I also vividly recall the episode where his sister was taken hostage in the courtroom. Danny comes to the rescue bringing them a car and telling the guy he's done every thing he asked. Then used the Reagan secret code "Don't hurt my family" when he pulled a 1911 out of the front fender well as his sister jerked away and Danny shot him. Pretty cool trick on that one, loved the secret code. Even Frank voiced the words as he watched it somehow on video.

Only plan me and the missus have is she always walks on my left, stays away from my strong side. Also common knowledge that I generally shoot slightly left under pressure so in a hostage situation, she knows to break right or her left, just as a caution.

Guess it's just a hope for the best, plan for the worst life we live in. Doubt I'll ever have to draw my weapon as long as I live but I sure ain't leaving it at home.

[jeepster09]

Well I think you may want to wear a rubber suit rather than worry about self defense in Washington.....just watched a WEATHER CHANNEL program saying your area is due for MAJOR QUAKE! :behindsofa: The area in RED is HOT ZONE.....:target:

[dao]

Let me guess, jeep. Brought on by climate change?

[Bawanna]

Well I think you may want to wear a rubber suit rather than worry about self defense in Washington.....just watched a WEATHER CHANNEL program saying your area is due for MAJOR QUAKE! :behindsofa: The area in RED is HOT ZONE.....:target:

Actually that's perfect. That's where all the people who need to get voted out hang out. Hopefully it turns into a giant sink hole and swallows the whole bunch. Drain swamp as it were. I'm a little close to that but if it swallows me as well, I do it for my country.

[dao]

You're a good man Colonel, willing to take one for the team as it were :D

[djd100]

Yeah but Danny's K40 holds 26 rounds. Welcome to Hollywood. Steven Segals 1911's hold 32.

Ha, ain't that the truth LOL!

Yeah, more the merrier, and to that end I have a new Sig P365 that will start getting carried next year when I can add the Sig to my permit (yeah, my CA IA is swamped with new applicants so no additions unless for malfunction, theft or loss. No worries, my trusty PM9 with Maggut's +1's will keep us safe out and about until then.

Thanks all!

[Bawanna]

Your permit is specific to your gun? You have to add each gun you want to carry? I know the officers had to qualify with each gun they wanted to carry off duty. I had to keep track of that stuff. A few had 10 or more guns on the list. Quals were a pain.
I was glad I didn't have to do that. At least here in WA we don't have to do a class or list each gun we want to carry. Course now the permit don't do a lot of good, have to wait for background checks like everybody else. Gone are the days you could walk in, pick a gun, do the instant check over the phone and take your prize home with you.

[djd100]

Your permit is specific to your gun? You have to add each gun you want to carry? I know the officers had to qualify with each gun they wanted to carry off duty. I had to keep track of that stuff. A few had 10 or more guns on the list. Quals were a pain.
I was glad I didn't have to do that. At least here in WA we don't have to do a class or list each gun we want to carry. Course now the permit don't do a lot of good, have to wait for background checks like everybody else. Gone are the days you could walk in, pick a gun, do the instant check over the phone and take your prize home with you.

In my IA (San Mateo County, Sheriff's Office issues), you get up to 3 handguns, with .380 being the lower limit caliber-wise, and you need to qual with all on the permit (one class, a course of fire for each gun). I keep it simple, currently all 9mm, though perhaps a P380 or similar for the pocket someday?

Qual's are a PITA for me when you have small capacity mags with stiff springs like these micro sub-compacts, especially when you're almost 70 and don't have the hand strength you used to have and need to use a mag loader LOL! Hence, I want to have enough loaded mags for each (so 5 for the Kahr PM9 with a soon to be purchased 8 rounder added, and 4 for the Sig P365), which will get me through the various strings without holding everyone up.

I'm lucky to be doing mine in late spring/early summer, as the last group doing theirs at the range I go to with SF PD's trainers had snow (Santa Cruz mountains, rarely snows but occasionally), and they did theirs while it was snowing LOL!