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O'Dell
11-03-2010, 02:53 PM
I got a call today from the Gwinnett Police, and they recovered one of my stolen guns on a traffic stop. It was the nickel SIG P220 that was essentially unreplaceable. I don't know any of the details, except that it's being held as evidence. They charged the driver with possession of a stolen hand gun, so I don't know if he's the one who stole it, and they can't prove it or if he bought it. It was just back from a factory referb, so it was perfect when taken, but it's sealed and I don't know the current condition. Who knows when I'll get it back, because it depends on if he pleads guilty or it goes to trial.
Goldstar225
11-03-2010, 03:02 PM
Congratulations on the recovery of your gun. Make sure that you follow-up on the case. Things fall through the cracks some times. As an example, if the thug takes a plea on his case before a trail date is set, the arresting officer won't get the word and the gun sits in the property room with no action taken for it's disposition.
getsome
11-03-2010, 03:16 PM
Thats great O'Dell, one more scumbag off the street and perhaps a lead on your other stolen guns...I was just reading last night in a gun magazine about a guy whose house was broken into and they stole TV's, computers, and jewelry along with all his guns...He had a good home owners insurance policy and thought everything would be covered....Well everything was EXCEPT his guns and in the fine print of the policy it said that a seperate rider policy is necessary to cover firearms so I'm checking on my coverage today and you should too because you never know about your insurance or lack of until something happens and then it's too late....
MikeyKahr
11-03-2010, 03:55 PM
Good news, good news, O'Dell. Hopefully the perp will talk and either fess up to the crime or help point the investigators in the right direction for the culprit(s). It's good to know the Sig (and hopefully more) have stayed local.
O'Dell
11-03-2010, 04:48 PM
Thats great O'Dell, one more scumbag off the street and perhaps a lead on your other stolen guns...I was just reading last night in a gun magazine about a guy whose house was broken into and they stole TV's, computers, and jewelry along with all his guns...He had a good home owners insurance policy and thought everything would be covered....Well everything was EXCEPT his guns and in the fine print of the policy it said that a seperate rider policy is necessary to cover firearms so I'm checking on my coverage today and you should too because you never know about your insurance or lack of until something happens and then it's too late....
A rider isn't necessary on my policy - I'm covered. They have had my claim and proof of loss for $3500 for about three weeks. I got a call from the appraiser last week and he was finished, and was sending all the paperwork to the adjuster Friday. Of course, now I have to let them know that I'm getting the SIG back. I may have to refile if the gun is damaged of if the mags are missing or whatever.
Now I have to decide what to do with the new P220 I bought to replace the stolen one. Maybe I'll trade it on the PM9 I've been wanting.
getsome
11-03-2010, 05:02 PM
Good deal all around...It's rare when something like that happens that you come out ahead but glad to hear you are fully covered..When my house burned in 2006 I thought I was in "Good Hands" like they say on TV but it took 2 years and a lawsuit to collect and I still got shafted...
Bawanna
11-03-2010, 06:39 PM
Good deal Odell. Thats the one that was the hardest to replace too. My advice and someone here already said it is be a nuisance and a squeaky wheel. You can't blame the cops now on account of the prosecutor is calling the shots.
Some insist that having that actual gun to show at trial is a must thing. Others take a picture and give it back. Often times they want to keep the thing in case the bad dude appeals or sometimes even until he serves his sentence if he gets one.
I'd be rattling cages relentlessly to speed things up. If it was used in a shooting, around here it would be gone for at least a year, no matter what.
Hopefully it's still in fine shape and the dirt bags didn't mess with it although the feeling of violation will never go away. Somebody else had control of your baby. I say hang em and hang em high!
rholmes69
11-03-2010, 07:08 PM
Man, that is good to hear for certain. Awesome!
I have a local friend who had a glock stolen 12 years ago. He just got it back 4 months ago from a bust up in New York. Looks completely different now. Gives new meaning to the saying rode hard and put up wet...
jlottmc
11-04-2010, 10:03 PM
Watch for appeals too. They can and may hold it until those have run their course as well. I remember when I had to bail my 1911 out of jail (loaned it to the old man and he got busted DWI) I had to sign paper work to the effect that I wouldn't do anything to change it, sell it or hardly even shoot it. That was a fiasco, and a hard lesson learned.
O'Dell
11-05-2010, 11:09 AM
I got a message Tuesday that a check had been mailed for the amount that I claimed in the Proof of Loss less deductible. I hadn't had a chance to notify the insurance company about the recovery. Technically, I think this means that the company now owns the pistol. However, I'm certain that they would give me ownership if I returned that part of the proceeds. I want to examine the gun and check for missing equipment [spare mag, etc], so that I can make the necessary adjustments, before making a decision.
Bawanna
11-05-2010, 11:26 AM
They may also sell it back to you as recovered under a separate deal all together, usually very very cheap. Insurance companies dont want stuff, too hard to handle. They would likely leave it in police property until they figure a way to dispose of it.
We get lots of stuff in the property room that is recovered long after the insurance claims are settled. So ownership has to be determined. Often times the insurance company doesn't even want it. Just return it to the owner and nothing more is heard.
Might just sit tight till you see it and see if the police will return it to you. The right thing to do of course is to let them know it was returned but wait till you see it first like you said. You might come out pretty nice on that one.
jocko
11-05-2010, 11:39 AM
indeed I had that happen to me about 35 years ago. our store was broken into and guns were stolen and the insurance settled with us ad then about 2 months or so later,, they \Bg were caught along with some of the stolen guns. The insurance company when notified told me to get the guns and they are mine. Most were damaged but again like bawanna said these insuracne copmanies certainly don't lie to deal with getting ride of guns ...
O'Dell
11-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Of course I'll notify the company, but I want to make sure I don't suffer a loss for reconditioning. It may have to go back to SIG. Interestingly enough, I tried to return money to this Ins. Co. once before. I lost a tree in a storm in my previous house. I filled a claim for removal and got a check. My next door neighbor had a damaged fence, so he also filed a claim with his company. His company paid for the fence AND the removal. I called my company and ask how to return the check because I had no loss. They basically said, "You wanna do WHAT?" I finally got it back to them, but evidently they had no mechanism for returned money.
Bawanna
11-05-2010, 12:43 PM
Exactly. Insurance companies aren't set up to take money back. Who would do that now days.
The point is the insurance company doesn't want your gun. An employee there may love it but he can't have it, just like the toys in my property room. NO matter how bad I want I can never have. You'd have a better chance of getting them than me.
They will most likely just say it's yours, go pick it up. The transaction is done. Even if it needs a trip back to Sig, sounds like that was a sweet gun and hard to replace so sound's worth it. Also the time span hasn't been long so unless the bad guys stored it in the bottom of a mud puddle or something theres a good chance it's still good as it was, at least we can hope.
I'm happy for you and hope it's back home soon.
OldLincoln
11-05-2010, 02:19 PM
I followed a thread where a shooting was justified and the BG lived. The police took the shooter's gun as evidence and he didn't get it back for 4 years. This is a good reason to have more than one gun on your carry permit.
This was part of my motivation to get Dad's Colt tuned up for carry. Around here if I had to defend myself the odds are high it would be gang related. Gangs around here are big on retaliation so I would be a target and really need to carry then.
Bawanna
11-05-2010, 02:36 PM
I followed a thread where a shooting was justified and the BG lived. The police took the shooter's gun as evidence and he didn't get it back for 4 years. This is a good reason to have more than one gun on your carry permit.
This was part of my motivation to get Dad's Colt tuned up for carry. Around here if I had to defend myself the odds are high it would be gang related. Gangs around here are big on retaliation so I would be a target and really need to carry then.
Several guys around here have guns they like so well they are afraid to carry them for that reason. Even an officers gun used in a legitimate and proven rightful shooting will go away for a minimum of a year. Of course we issue a replacement immediately but if they have a personal gun on them at the time it usually gets tied up as well.
We had a shooting and defense attorney ordered our dept MP5's held indefinitely. I was told to not pursue it, assume it was gone and would never return. It took over 3 years to get it back and several hours to get it cleaned up and functional again but at least it's back.
That's one big plus to Glocks for duty guns, try to take an officers Kimber or any other personal gun and you practically have to tranquilize them, rightfully so, but the glock they just hand it over, give me another one. No personality, nothing unique.
I'm different than many in that like stolen guns recovered or any guns that get into the property room that we're of course not allowed to do anything with, I'll get hold of the owner and let em know this thing is dirty or full of fingerprint powder or been wet, can I clean it and oil it up for you. If they say yes then we're allowed. I even had one guy with a really nice HK rifle that was recovered request visitation. I let him come in every couple weeks and look at his rifle, we actually cleaned it up together. Nice rifle, nice guy. Lots of rules and some not so good for the owners. All about hooking the bad guy and not letting him get off.
OldLincoln
11-05-2010, 03:12 PM
I tried not to get attached to my PM9 but that's like trying not to fall in love, "We don't have a voice when our heart makes the choices."
At least it isn't like my Mustang that I found a really good home for. After selling it, I wanted to buy a Glock but they don't fit my hand, thus the PM9. It would be very painful to hear a LEO say slide it to me across this rough concrete that will tear the dickens out of it. I wonder if he would let me carry it to him in my teeth instead?
If I lost my PM9 I doubt I'd ever buy a new gun again. Instead find one all scratched up that shoots well and let it go.
O'Dell
11-06-2010, 12:04 PM
I followed a thread where a shooting was justified and the BG lived. The police took the shooter's gun as evidence and he didn't get it back for 4 years. This is a good reason to have more than one gun on your carry permit.
This was part of my motivation to get Dad's Colt tuned up for carry. Around here if I had to defend myself the odds are high it would be gang related. Gangs around here are big on retaliation so I would be a target and really need to carry then.
I'm glad I live in Georgia. Here, once you get your permit, you can carry anything up to a 75mm recoilless rifle if you can figure out how to conceal it.
wyntrout
11-06-2010, 12:37 PM
I think that you must be referring to Florida... we have the concealed WEAPON permit, but even that is limited to "legal" weapons... and we can still have a little adult beverages with our dinner at restaurants, let alone enter one while CCW.
Wynn:D
O'Dell
11-06-2010, 02:36 PM
I think that you must be referring to Florida... we have the concealed WEAPON permit, but even that is limited to "legal" weapons... and we can still have a little adult beverages with our dinner at restaurants, let alone enter one while CCW.
Wynn:D
Are you saying my 75mm is illegal. How else am I going to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses away?
As far as adult beverages are concerned, I haven't had one in 40 years, so it never crosses my mind.
jocko
11-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Are you saying my 75mm is illegal. How else am I going to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses away?
As far as adult beverages are concerned, I haven't had one in 40 years, so it never crosses my mind.
found one of the best ways to keep[ the Jehovah people away is to answer the door in ur shorts drinking a beer with your d--k hanging out. Seems to solve the problem without even saying one word.
Probably it is the beer that does the trick though--u think???:19:
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