PM9 with a thumb safety????

[swing2hard]

http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-PM9-w-Night-Sights-External-Safety-and-LCI.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=comparsionshopping&aff=5110

[joshh]

this is the CA & MA compliant version. i have one & its my most carried pistol by far. when i bought it i figured i'd just carry without the safety on but that hasnt been the case at all. i practice switching while drawing and its become a habit that doesnt hinder me for a fraction of a second. i also carry a glock22 (not much since pm9) & i am not opposed to carrying without a safety but i figure its there so i'll use it. i've been paranoid since reading about that guy who accidentally shot his junk off in a lowes!

[Mits3kgt88]

That's disturbing...what kind of pistol was it and how did it happen?

[Bawanna]

Theres a thread here somewhere with I beleive the whole article. It was near me here in Washington as I recall.

[swing2hard]

I like the idea of a safety on it myself, I have a PM9 & a Kahr .380 that I carry all the time. My junk may be small but it's all mine :D

[joshh]

it was a glock and i read the fool was pocket carrying in sweatpants without holster.
heres a link;
http://www.lynnwoodtoday.com/2010/06/03/lowes-details/

[joshh]

ive always been taught that a proper holster is the best safety but i do find the switch useful. my buddy chose the pm9 w/ safety over a pps because of the safety switch and its the only pistol he will carry with a round chambered.

[slowpoke]

My hats off to the paramedic for applying pressure to that mans testicles, or lack there of.
If I was that paramedic, I would have been rethinking my job description.

[swing2hard]

I would like to see one in person, from my research on it is that most peoples complaints on it is that the safety switch is backwards from the 1911 platform which doesnt make a whole lotta sense to me. It would seem that the fire position should be a thumb push down & not up.

[Bawanna]

That's pretty typical of all the Double Action/Single action autos, Smith, Beretta, most all are up to shoot down to decock or safe.
For most of those I always preferred decock only so the gun went right back into fire mode without having to thumb the lever up.
Nature of the beast I guess.

[jocko]

Agree, Bawanna, until one has it in his own hands to play with it, I am going to give kahr credit in knowing what the hell they are doing . I would have no issues at all if my PM9 had a manual safety on it. had one been in the case when I bought mine 4 years ago, I might have bought it but from what I have seen in pictures the thing that turns me off the most is all that god awful printing on the slide. According to kahr, they did not want to have to put that crapola on the top of the slide by to be Mass complaint they had to do it..

[garyb]

I used to think an external safety was essential until I purchased my PM40. I was talked out of the external safety model by a gun dealer in Florida. I even went as far as to inquire with Kahr to see if they planned to come out with a PM40 with external safety. No plans for this. Now that I have carried a PM40 for a few months I feel the external safety is non essential on a Kahr DAO trigger. This is a very safe gun to carry without an external safety. I believe it is simply one of those State Law things that sometimes don't make alot of sense and are designed to be a barrier for us gun owners. Just my 2 cents.

[Replay13]

After looking my Kahr over really close I feel 100% safe carrying it IWB or Pocket carry in a holster, no external safety necessary. First the trigger works like a true double action, meaning the striker isn't half cocked like most striker fired pistols.... Kahr just does a excellent job of making a smooth plus light trigger without having the striker half cocked. This does make a longer trigger stroke, its more like a double action revolver (the revolvers doesn't have external safetys either). Second with the slide off you can see and test the funtion of the striker safety, but like I said earlier even without the built in safety its not going to fire unless the trigger is pulled full stroke. So just keep the trigger covered in a holster and carry it anyway you like and its always ready when you need it without messing with an external safety. Check the funtion of the striker blocking safety when you clean it to be extra safe, like from dropping the pistol.
James (Replay13)

[joshh]

i wasnt sure about the safety but flipping it up while drawing is very easy and after doing it a few hundred times at the range i dont even notice it anymore. also, if you dont like it, leave it off. a proper holster makes safety pretty unnecessary but many prefer it.

[100percent]

If it is Massachusetts then you must be thinking of the PHds on Cartalk not the professionals on Kahrtalk. The only safety that I have is between my earsl

[ltxi]

Requiring a PM9 to have a manual thumb safety is just about as dumb an idea as putting one on a S&W revolver. TG 1911s were invented in an age of sanity. Otherwise cocked and locked would just be a laughable fantasy.

[Bawanna]

Exactly and if my memory serves John Moses Brownings original rendition 1905??? had no safety at all but I believe the grip safety. The military required the thumb safety so he went back to his shop and made one. One a wizard that man must have been!

[smokey337]

I guess a good holster really is worth it's weight in testicles. Boy I would hate to blow my own balls off but that can be avoided without a manual safety I think!:eek:

[OldrSlowrSGT]

I have a PM9 with the thumb safety... the other MA & CA feature is a loaded chamber indicator sticking up on the top of the slide.

I carry the PM9 IWB, or I pocket carry with a DeSantis Nemisis, both of which cover the trigger area sufficiently.

I have never had the trigger actuated without deliberately inserting my right forefinger into the trigger guard and applying rearward pressure.