kimber solo

[swampman]

Have yall seen the new Kimber solo :)

[500KV]

Slick looking little piece.
I love Kimbers, although this one is a departure for them, striker fired, s/s 9mm.
Seems like everyone is getting in on the act.
Some won't like the safety but it wouldn't bother me.

http://www.kimber1911pistols.com/blog/kimber-solo-carry/

[REACT]

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then the folks at Kahr should be blushing. That trigger looks very familiar. It's also nothing close to "near-perfect 1911 ergonomics."

And I'm one that doesn't like the "ambi-thumb safety." There's no need for a safety if the gun is handled properly.

[jocko]

need alot more information on this kimber: size, weight, price, but it looks nice. Now it has grips on it that I am sure master carver Bawanna could do wonder for to.

Humm: Master carver Bawanna. humm that sounds good. I knew he sold live bait also and was very well known in his area for that, but I would hesitate to put a tag on him as Master Baiter!!!!

that kimber willnot be low in price IMO.

[recoilguy]

Its nice looking too be sure. I would like to see more on it.

It will be interesting to see what the cronnies have to say.

RCG

[swampman]

need alot more information on this kimber: size, weight, price, but it looks nice. Now it has grips on it that I am sure master carver Bawanna could do wonder for to.

Humm: Master carver Bawanna. humm that sounds good. I knew he sold live bait also and was very well known in his area for that, but I would hesitate to put a tag on him as Master Baiter!!!!

that kimber willnot be low in price IMO.
you Tube has two videos on size comparison and take down :)

[mr surveyor]

other than the thumb safety, which I could easily work with anyway, I'm liking it. I almost fell for the little Springer a couple of years ago, until I compared it to my Kimber Compact... not enough difference in size there to even consider dropping down from .45 acp to 9mm. But, this new offering from Kimber is interesting. Not being a fan of tupperware, I like the idea of a machined aluminum frame. The Kimber looks like a compromise between the poly PM9 and the SS MK9.

So far, that's the only new offering in the last 2 years that gave me a rise in interest. Due to current finances, I will keep my CW9, and be dang glad I have it:)


surv

[AFVet]

Here's a YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m46w2bwEE9s) on it where the guy gives you a look at the guts. Interesting, but I'm not a big fan of ambi safeties.

[kahrseye]

Here's more info on the stainless model and specs.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/solo

As you can read, it's heavier than the PM9, a little wider and a tad shorter in heighth. PM9 has it on length. It's a nice looking gun. I read somewhere that this gun will retail for $750. Why do manufacturers think they can charge that much money and only give a customer ONE MAGAZINE? That gripes my ass.

[jocko]

thanx. That is one really nice looking gun. It mates up very close in size to the PM9, certainly a very pretty gun to. lenght difference isn't worht even talking about, Price points are equal IMO.
Now being it is a kimber does't mean it will have no bugs either. They have never ventured in this area before and there is something to making these small ass guns totallyreliable. I bet the new slide on the PM9 models willbring that gun closer to the 15 ounce mark so at 17 ounces and all metal the kimber to me is certainly a gun worth looking at. BUT it must work perfect to, so for me I will sit back and read reviews on it to see.

But to me this is one damn nice gun and for those who don't like polymer guns this gun might just float ur boat ALOT. I can now just see Bawanna just drolling to be able to make a set of wood grips for this gun. It is doable no doubt.

No doubt this gun shouldhave a extra magazine with it, hell add $40 to the over all price but just don't force a buyer tohav eto go extra magazine hunting. Makes zero sense. If one is willing to spend $750 an extra $40 willnot stop him from buying it, IMO.

[jeepster09]

:D I don't care what they make....it won't get me to give up my Para 24 ounce .45 PDA or my CZ Rami.....:75:

[DasFriek]

Thats actually the first gun ive seen that could give Kahr PM/MK line a big decision in picking one or the other. I definitely like the Aluminum frame saving weight of 7oz's and still not a polymer gun over the MK9.
I wouldn't buy one right off tho, Id give it a year as i just don't trust Kimber that much.
They have had enough QC complaints on-line which seems to be getting better, But i wouldn't bet that much money until i see more proof.
I do prefer the looks of my MK9, But they did make a nice looking gun which you really don't see much anymore.

[jocko]

indeed for a company that supposably makes top quality very expensive 1911's. they have had alot of complaints on them to , so I will sit alittle higher up in the bleachers before I start rooting for the solo 9.

[2thhacker]

I was at a gun store yesterday that had one, not for sale yet, pre-order only. I was able to hold it side by side with the PM9, and I was very impressed. The pistol was heavier than the kahr, but felt sleeker. Rounded slide, grips, etc. The trigger felt a little lighter, maybe slightly shorter pull than kahr too. I agree with jocko, it needs to prove reliable and one mag is a joke, but I was sure impressed. This dealer had it priced lower than the PM9 (699 for the solo, 799 for the kahr). Based on what I saw/felt, I would choose the Kimber, although I feel bad saying that on a kahr forum.

[RONDO]

Check this out ... http://www.kimberamerica.com/solo ... pretty cool ...
The SOLO is single action, ergo, safety ...:roll:MSRP $725

[RONDO]

A buncha' pix ... looks like about the same size as a PM40 ...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=327662&id=102653905515

Cheers, Rondo :cool:

[deuce]

I like the looks of this new gun but I think I'd like it even better as a.40 S&W.

[mr. bggs]

i want one... got my kahrs already so its just another option for everyday carry!-bggs

[RONDO]

I'll bet the Solo Carry 9mm is just the first model in this new Kimber line.;) For sure, you'll see a .40S&W and a smaller .380, and probably the larger .45 eventually. Kahr has found a great market for their higher end quality micros .... and the smoothly "dehorned" looks of the Kimber Solo Carry along with it's size and lite weight aluminum frame look as though they want a piece of it. :rolleyes: With a huge majority of states adopting CCW ... more to come ....:)

[jocko]

RONDO; Kimbers first baby step into the sub compact world, They like most who have entered that world all had alot to learn. It would be super to hear perfection out of the box and only time will tell, but my bet is that once it gets into the hands of shooters things will pop up that they never dreamed of.

It is one nice looking semi, that is for sure, I could live with everything they put on the gun even. I question if this gun will be Ma or Ca compliant with what is offered on the gun now??. Personally I do not want to be the first in line at any gun store to buy one.

[RONDO]

Absolutely.;)

On the compiance issue ... I didn't notice a loaded chamber indicator on the Solo ... I think the fussy states require it. :rolleyes: :confused:

[garyb]

Kimber solo looks like a nice little 9, but still not out in my caliber. No competition for the PM40.

[jocko]

Absolutely.;)

On the compiance issue ... I didn't notice a loaded chamber indicator on the Solo ... I think the fussy states require it. :rolleyes: :confused:

was there any mention of a mag disconnect either. Which for me is good. I never needed a cocking indicator on my guns as I knew every gun I owned was loaded..:yo:

yup see that little hole on top of the chamber, that is kimber's cocking indicator. Not sure it would pass any state complaint rules though as it is only a visible loaded indicator.

If u will hit on tucson MTB thread it shows the kimber in much more detail. I will give you ten guesses where that captive recoil assembly came from to. Now if this was the kel tec fourm they would be crying holly hell saying kimber copied their wanger danger etc.Hope they tell owners , open end of the recoil spring towards the front of the slide, for it is identical to kahrs PM9. they also proved on their scales the weight on the lower, and upper an combination with magazine. They didn't under inflate the weight. This is a nice gun althought they seem to be in love with "roll pins".

[mr surveyor]

since the Solo seems to have Jocko's blessing, I'm going to call my ffl buddy tomorrow and pre-order one. I figure that by the time they are shipped (what... sometime in April... maybe) I should be out of this rut. By then, I will have finally (hopefully) gotten mrs surv to go through the CHL class, which will mean I will be losing my CW9 to her. In the meantime, I will have conveniently found a "replacement" for my beloved CW9. Then, to complete the whole diabolical scheme, she will be so in love with the CW9 that she will insist I replace my Sig P239 40 cal with a Kahr ... obviously in 40 cal... preferably steel with checkered ebony Bawannagrips......

Life Is Good (or at least looking up:))


surv

[Bawanna]

Well Bawanna is standing by, ebony on hand ready to fulfill his part of this diobolical scheme.

[swampman]

I have a colt pocket nine,steel slide aluminum frame,true double action only,same size and weight and cartridge capacity as the solo.but I think I would like to have the solo carry as well:)

[jocko]

since the Solo seems to have Jocko's blessing, I'm going to call my ffl buddy tomorrow and pre-order one. I figure that by the time they are shipped (what... sometime in April... maybe) I should be out of this rut. By then, I will have finally (hopefully) gotten mrs surv to go through the CHL class, which will mean I will be losing my CW9 to her. In the meantime, I will have conveniently found a "replacement" for my beloved CW9. Then, to complete the whole diabolical scheme, she will be so in love with the CW9 that she will insist I replace my Sig P239 40 cal with a Kahr ... obviously in 40 cal... preferably steel with checkered ebony Bawannagrips......

Life Is Good (or at least looking up:))


surv

now we can get a really unbiased analysis of this gun to. I can't see Kimber being even able to pump these guns out the door, so they are gona be scarce to find. I do think it is an excellent looking gun. The exrtra few ounces would mean nadda to me. I have no quarrels witht he safety either. actually Ihave no quarrels witht ehgun at all. The price is kimber and I guess it wouldbe nice to hear from people who say wow, I can buy 4 kel tecs for the price of a kimber or 3 lcps etc. Kimbers are going tob e pricey like kahrs for the qualiyt is there and it is not going to be like a waffle maker where you pour in the sauce and out pops a waffle.

Keep us posted surv- 4 sure...

[DasFriek]

Price versus quality is always an issue with guns, And it no doubt goes higher when its niche guns were talking about.
Kel-tec has done a great job of making small guns at a very low price, But at the cost of quality imo. Nothing wrong with that as long as it is safe and reliable.
But you get rough triggers and cheap looking plastics and less refinement on parts.

And until now its been either Kel-tec or Kahr if you wanted a small micro 9mm.
With the new LC9,Solo, And p290 on the way it may push Kahr to lower prices to compete a bit as thier main competition isnt Kel-tec anymore.

I know if Kimber releases a Solo .45 id have a very hard time choosing between that and a PM45 if everything stays equal. But Kimber has alot to prove with this gun and each gun afterwards as each model can have its own glitches that aren't apparent in every gun in the line.

[mr surveyor]

just from piecing together all the available info buzzing around from the early, pre-introduction reviews (first group of beta testers), I believe the Solo is a fully cocked, striker fired system with no other (manual) safety system except the manual thumb safety. Thus, an almost identical manual of arms to the Colt Mustang and the now produced Sig P238 (Mustang reproduction). Sounds to me, if I'm reading this all correctly, that Kimber has come up with something new here. I first thought that the manual ambi safety was just to be Kalifornia kompliant, but now believe it to be a necessary part of the equation due to firing mechanism design. Someone smarter than me will have to describe the mechanism... I'm just guessing.


surv

[jocko]

kahr was never in competition with kel tec, two different price points, two different quality guns also. Kimber will be in competition with kahr--maybe remains to be seen. I don't want to over inflate kimber prouducts for they have issues with some of their 1911 guns so the solo "jury" will be out for awhile before we can say one way or the other.

Right now for me it "LOOKS" good but if this is a more cocked and locked type gun, then they can have it. I don't want a hairy ass trigger sitting in my front pocket..

[jocko]

just from piecing together all the available info buzzing around from the early, pre-introduction reviews (first group of beta testers), I believe the Solo is a fully cocked, striker fired system with no other (manual) safety system except the manual thumb safety. Thus, an almost identical manual of arms to the Colt Mustang and the now produced Sig P238 (Mustang reproduction). Sounds to me, if I'm reading this all correctly, that Kimber has come up with something new here. I first thought that the manual ambi safety was just to be Kalifornia kompliant, but now believe it to be a necessary part of the equation due to firing mechanism design. Someone smarter than me will have to describe the mechanism... I'm just guessing.


surv so might as well have a 1911 style system if its bonna be cocked and locked to safety. I just would not like that, certainly it would be a more accurate shooter due to the single action system but not a pocket gun like I would want. Kahr just won my heart back again..:bump2:

[RONDO]

Well, this says it's single action striker fired: http://www.kimberamerica.com/solo/solo-carry/solo-carry-stainless
They also have a shorter 2.75" barrel; PM9 has 3" ... in the photos it looks like they have shifted the barrel and all forward relative to the Kahr ... maybe to make room for their trigger system and safety?:confused:

[jocko]

OK, now I see where the 1.2" width comes into play. They are indeed talking about frame width and that would have to include the outtermeasurments of both manual safety's..

[mr surveyor]

one reviewer said he measured the actual slide itself to be 0.92". I figured the 1.2" was including the ambi safety