In the news today

[getsome]

This is an interesting case for gun owners who travel with their weapons and ammo...A licensed Utah gun owner Greg Revell was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown PA with connections in Minneapolis MN and another in Newark NJ and then on to Allentown...He checked his bags and advised the ticket agent in Salt Lake City that one bag had a locked case with a pistol in it and the other bag had two magazines and a box of ammo in a locked zipper case....So far no problem, the flight to Minneapolis went fine and bags were transferred to the flight to Newark and off they went but the flight was late geting into Newark and Greg missed the last leg of the flight to Allentown... Now here is where the problem starts...The airline wanted to bus the passengers to Allentown but the last gate agent in Minneapolis had listed Gregs luggage as having a final destination of Newark and his bags were in the airport baggage pick up carousel waiting for passenger pick up and not loaded on the bus so Greg goes back in the Newark terminal and gets his luggage but by this time the bus to Allentown had already left without him so he decides to take a taxi to an airport area hotel and spend the night with plans to get another conecting flight to Allentown the next day....Here is where Gregs life really turns to chum...He gets a flight lined up to Allentown and checks his baggage with the Newark gate agent and being a law abiding citizen and responsible gun owner, advises about the one bag containing an unloaded and locked pistol and the other having a locked ammo bag just as he should have....Now it's party time!!! the TSA comes over to search his bags and guess what? they find a locked unloaded pistol and locked ammo zipper bag...They ask if he has a N.J. pistol permit which he does not but shows his Utah CCW license and travel documents to explain why he was in this situation...Seems at this point everything should be ok but NOOOOOO....The Newark Police arrest Greg and take him to jail and the TSA puts him on the no fly list....Greg stayed in jail for 10 days before being able to bond out....The Newark Police eventually dropped the charges but it took Greg 3 years to get his pistol back after it was confiscated due to the arrest.....He is still on the no fly list....:32:

[Bawanna]

Is this a great system or what? This is why I don't fly anymore. If I want to jump thru hoops and rings of fire I'll join the circus.

[RONDO]

If the TSA and Newark police put that much effort into looking for real BGs, we'd all be safer. But that's typical for bureaucracies, ... triple check the law abiding citizen, it's much easier than actually looking for someone who isn't.
Another example; employers in my area who carry the required workmans comp insurance get audited continuously because they know who and where they are, making it easy to do, while the countless jackleg employers who illegally operate without the required workmans comp insurance are never investigated.
IRS works the same way. Bureaucrats get paid whether anything of substance gets accomplished or not.
Congress is another example. They're more interested in giving the illusion that they're doing something, it's far easier.

*That's what happened with our wayward traveler above, another Bureaucratic SNAFU that causes great difficulty for the individual, while the perpetrators of the injustice give the illusion that they're actually accomplishing something.

[OldLincoln]

This is what drives me nuts (short trip) in America! Because of some law, all comon sense has gone by the bye. It's obvious in this case what happened and was positively proved, yet his life is turned upside down.

I can say that since I lived for so many years without carrying, that I will not take it with me if I am going to fly. I always go back to those among us who have carried for 30 years and nary an incident for the odds that I will need it in a strange city where I won't be out alone anyway.

If it's an extended stay (> 30 days) I'd legally ship it from point A to B and have it waiting. I can carry my other one after shipping before I leave.

Sure wish all the states would get together and allow personal transportation in bags even allowing over night or emergency stays. Let them put it in a gun locker at the station and give you the key, then sign it in and out. That meets the intent of disarming you while you are there and even if they charge $25 for the hassle that's okay.

Where's the NRA on stuff like this? Why so silent?

[Kahrcw9]

The moral of this story is to stay the hell out of NJ.. Even The big man upstairs hates that place!!!!

[jocko]

wow, what a horror story..