New Kahr CW9 = RECOIL MONSTER!?!?!?

[redterror]

I finally took my CW9 to the range today. the gun has a massive recoil pulse making me miss big time, my shots seem to hit too low. Could something be wrong w/my gun? other than that there were no functional issues with the gun. I also took a Taurus PT111 pro and I can hit fairly well & consistently with it, both are 9mm. What do you guys think? is it the gun or me?

[9mmFL]

I really don't think its the gun, I just got mine the other day and i found it pretty standard for a small pistol, although the plastic grip is a little rough to the hands in my opinion. I bought a slip on sleeve grip for the gun and found it does help on the hands. Maybe give one a shot? Are you familiar with the trigger pull on the Kahr? It took me a couple mags to get used to it considering the guns I normally shoot are DA/SA and SA is much more of a constant short pull rather than the smooth long pull of a Kahr. But keep in mind I am no expert nor do I claim to be. lol But hopefully you enjoy the new toy!!!

[wales]

I consider my P9 to be a soft recoil pistol, even shooting +Ps. The grip is a little irritating, so I put a grip sleeve on it.

[ripley16]

Recoil doesn't make you miss your target. I agree with the others that for such a small, lightweight pistol, the CW9/ P9 is a fairly soft recoiling pistol. Perhaps you may want to try some different grip styles and find one that suits you well. Personally I have good success using the "thumbs forward" grip.

The various grip sleeves available can make the grip a bit bigger, fills your hand better, and eases the abrasiveness.

The recoil spring has a front and back... is it installed closed end toward the rear, open end to the muzzle?

[gkstemple]

1. "Milking" the grip with the firing hand? That's when your trigger "squeeze" causes the other fingers to tighten also and can pull the sights (and the shot) low.
2. Anticipating the shot and fighting muzzle flip -- ahead of the actual shot -- usually has the same result.

1. Relax your firing hand grip quite a bit and use the SUPPORTING hand to "mash" the fingertips and palm of your firing hand against the SIDES of the grip, while keeping a push/pull tension between the firing and supporting hands. Then just press the trigger rearward, without engaging the other firing hand fingers to "help out" their neighbor.

2. You're not going to hold the front of the pistol down when it fires, so don't try to "muscle" it anywhere. Just let it ride where it wants to go and stand with open-mouthed amazement as the sights settle right back on target. Perfect neutral grip. If it's not on target or very, very close for the next shot, adjust your grip and try again.

All else being equal, a lighter, shorter pistol will have a bit more violent recoil impulse than it's heavier, longer brethern. BUT, with a Kahr, all is NOT equal, at least in terms of PERCEIVED recoil. The lower bore axis, in relation to where the hand absorbs most of the impulse really, really gentles things down. So much so that I see little difference between a CW45 and a full-size 1911.

Enjoy your CW9.

[jocko]

I finally took my CW9 to the range today. the gun has a massive recoil pulse making me miss big time, my shots seem to hit too low. Could something be wrong w/my gun? other than that there were no functional issues with the gun. I also took a Taurus PT111 pro and I can hit fairly well & consistently with it, both are 9mm. What do you guys think? is it the gun or me?

massive recoil out of a CW9, that is about the first time I have ever read that. Your low shots and I bet also to the left are shooter error. Kahrs have a looooong trigger system, Alot different that your PT111. takes some rounds down range to get used to a kahr trigger system. Consider you are shooting a 15 ounce handgun, very small, extremely light but with a super lower bore axis,(by patented design) "felt recoil" is very low.

If it bothers you send it to magna-port.com and get that baby ported, or trade it in and buy the K9 which is all steel, much heavier and certainly one fine shooting gun, ..

It is not the gun . If guns could talk we would all learn soemthing;)

[copterdrvr]

I just purchased a CW40 (it's getting fixed right now-long story) but when it fired, I was surprised at how mild the recoil was.

I also own a PM9, CW9 and a P380 plus some Keltecs and I find these pistols to be amazingly pleasant to shoot when you consider what they weigh.

I agree with the previous poster regarding the bore axis being much lower on the Kahrs than other pistols. I find the Keltecs to be the "least" enjoyable to shoot a bunch. An example is the P380-it shoots like a 22 compared to the Keltec P3AT-that little sucker is the least "fun" shooting pistol I own, followed by the Keltec P9F. The bore axis is considerably higher than the Kahrs.

As you can see in my picture, all of my small pistols have slip-on grips. Believe it or not, it makes a pretty significant difference in the "enjoyment factor" of shooting these little pocket rockets.

I didn't include my PM9 as it wouldn't fit on the book cover!!!

When my CW40 comes home and she proves her worth, it's going straight to MagnaPort to have them do their magic. Unlike the 9mm, the 40SW is alittle snappy and having it ported will decrease my time back on target due to muzzle rise.

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx186/copterdrvr/IMG_0099.jpg

[Kingcreek]

Recoil is in the hand of the beholder. ie different for every individual but then again, the laws of physics are the same for all of us. I've never experienced objectionable recoil from the CW9, even with +p ammo.

[recoilguy]

I replied to this same post on a different forum. I hope the good responses you have recieved help you out!

Good luck with the CW9

RCG

[mad1ben2]

Although I don't consider myself very recoil sensitive, I have a PM9 that is very little hitting with the flush mag and regular ammo. I notice a significant difference when shooting +P SD ammo. I also have a P40 covert that is pretty snappy. If you're shooting regular ammo out of the CW9 and you consider that massive recoil, I'm not sure what you could shoot that you'd consider having minimal recoil... I find the PM9 with regular ammo as easy a shooting gun as any other 9mm I've shot.. even larger ones.

Good luck!

[aray]

I have Hogue grips on my CW9 and I found that it significantly improves the feel of the gun vs. when they are off. I agree with kingcreek that felt recoil is in the hand of the beholder. Having said that in my experience the CW9 has less felt recoil to me than similar small CCW guns. But on the other hand I prefer standard pressure load ammunition with my CW9 vs. +P (still hollow point of course). I find that I can get the front sight back on target faster with standard loads than not, due to the increased recoil of +P. I figure in a self defense situation I might make slightly smaller holes, but I'll make more of them, and have them where I want them, vs. +P.

[cgo99]

I was also hitting low when I first got my PM9, but once I learned to "stage" the trigger things got better. Lots of good advice from the folks in this forum.

[Squib]

The recoil you describe is highly unusual in the Kahr's I've shot. One reason I chose to carry the CW9 is its lack of noticable recoil. Were you, by any chance, shooting +P or some other hot load? If that is not the case, perhaps you can find another owner and compare yours to theirs.

I, too, have added a sleeve to the grip. It is more comfortable and gives me a sense of better control.

[NoJustHappyToSeeYou]

As I recently posted elsewhere, the recoil of my new P9 surprised me. I'd shot the K9 and other 9s, and always found the 9mm round to be very mild. But, the P9 is lightweight, and the recoil was more than I was expecting. Still, it's only a 9mm and I'm used to 40S&W. I don't think I'd call any 9mm a "monster," but that's just me. Try one of the thicker grip sleeves (rather than just bicycle inner tube).

[MW surveyor]

Had to reply to this post.

If you think the recoil is bad, try shooting a kel tec PF9 or even the P3AT. The little P3AT is working at the ragged edge.

[jreXD9]

If you think the recoil is bad, try shooting a kel tec PF9 or even the P3AT. The little P3AT is working at the ragged edge.

ain't that the truth! I'd rather take my chances by THROWING those at a thug.
Based on personal experiences, I'd say that the recoil from my CW9, PM9 AND CW45 are very mild. I LOOOVE the thud that the CW45 delivers.

[jocko]

as i recently posted elsewhere, the recoil of my new p9 surprised me. I'd shot the k9 and other 9s, and always found the 9mm round to be very mild. But, the p9 is lightweight, and the recoil was more than i was expecting. Still, it's only a 9mm and i'm used to 40s&w. I don't think i'd call any 9mm a "monster," but that's just me. Try one of the thicker grip sleeves (rather than just bicycle inner tube).

port it!!

[NoJustHappyToSeeYou]

port it!!


My P9 isn't bothering me as it is; it's just more recoil than I was expecting based on shooting the K9.

But, I read the recent porting thread and my takeaway was that porting didn't really make all that much of a difference. Did I come to the wrong conclusion?

[deadhead1971]

I don't see that redterror has responded or even been back. I think the recoil thing was a hoax. The PM9 has hardly any recoil , and the CW9 is bigger (P9 size). My LCP 380 snaps more than the PM9. :-)

[jocko]

ur sure did:

Magnaport.com read up in it..

the P9 is actually a very nice gun, but one shouldnot compare recoil of it to the K9. there is certainly a difference and weight is one factor for sure..

[jackblack73]

I don't see that redterror has responded or even been back. I think the recoil thing was a hoax. The PM9 has hardly any recoil , and the CW9 is bigger (P9 size). My LCP 380 snaps more than the PM9. :-)

I think he was just an inexperienced shooter. Certainly a small, light gun like a CW9 will have more recoil than larger ones. It's all relative.

[Bawanna]

Yup, he hasn't logged in since he made his first and only post.

He's got 3 pages of good stuff to read if he ever returns.

[jocko]

can anyone spell "troll"

[tconroy]

When I first got my SP101 357 I shot 38+p and after 20 rounds my finger started bleeding and I was all over the target like a shotgun blast. My hand was num for 2 hours. After 500 rounds I can shoot a whole box comfortably and last outing I put 25 out of 25 in the 3" cirlce from 25FT. pulling DA as fast as I could get back to POA.:cool::cool: I cant wait to shoot MY new CW9 tomorrow. I know I will need practice and PATIENCE!!!:33::D

[mr surveyor]

troll???? did someone say troll????


hhmmmm.... tonight my wife made that "Milkyway Cake" I read about either here or on one of the other gun forums I frequent, and it was sooooo goood!

Now I have to search every darned thread I've read in the last 3 days on half a dozen forums to find who posted that recipe.

There was absolutely NO felt recoil from the bunt pan:D



surv

[mr surveyor]

When I first got my SP101 357 I shot 38+p and after 20 rounds my finger started bleeding and I was all over the target like a shotgun blast. My hand was num for 2 hours. After 500 rounds I can shoot a whole box comfortably and last outing I put 25 out of 25 in the 3" cirlce from 25FT. pulling DA as fast as I could get back to POA.:cool::cool: I cant wait to shoot MY new CW9 tomorrow. I know I will need practice and PATIENCE!!!:33::D


I alternate carry between a SP101 and CW9 myself. The SP101 gets field duty and the CW9 gets pleasure duty. The thing that I have been searching for for years is a combination of similar feeling triggers in revo and semi. So far, this is the best I've run across in many attempts. I love my 3" SP101 .357 mag and my CW9 .... so much I started reloading .357 as of today. Still have all my fingers and a perfectly functional SP101:D


surv

[MW surveyor]

I alternate carry between a SP101 and CW9 myself. The SP101 gets field duty and the CW9 gets pleasure duty. The thing that I have been searching for for years is a combination of similar feeling triggers in revo and semi. So far, this is the best I've run across in many attempts. I love my 3" SP101 .357 mag and my CW9 .... so much I started reloading .357 as of today. Still have all my fingers and a perfectly functional SP101:D


surv


Me too. Got the 3" SP101 before the CW9 and knew that I'd have to start reloading as much as I like to fire the SP101. That was last year in April/May. Then went and found that the CW9 has nearly the same trigger feel in DA. So now I'm reloading for both!

[mr surveyor]

pretty amazing match aren't they. After I picked up my SP101 last fall the new gun fever just almost died, partly due to economy, but I think mostly due to the fact that one of the great mysteries of life had been solved. I've spent at least the last 5 years searching for similar trigger feel and manual of arms in pistol and revo.... I believe we have a winner:D


surv

[MW surveyor]

Yes, they are a good match for trigger pull and overall barrel length/sight radius. I really debated about getting the CW9 when I was looking to replace my P3AT with something bigger (9 mm since I also have a nice CZ SP01 Phantom for "home and range"). Looked at a whole bunch of 9 mm compacts. After handling the CW9 and dry firing it at the LGS (good guys there and I did use snap caps) knew that the CW9 was THE replacement.

[mr surveyor]

I will keep the CW9, but I'll darned sure be looking to pick up a CM9. That would be my replacement for my previous P3AT. When .380acp ammo was so scarce a couple of years ago, my P3AT went in on a trade for the CW9. Hated giving up the carry size of the P3AT, but certainly didn't mind not paying extortion fees for the less than favorable .380 ammo.

surv

[jocko]

Our local wal mart here has not had any 380 ammo in over 2+ years. Mine both 380;'s have taken a back seat also, as I wonj't pay that rip off price for that 380 ammo. I don't carry it anyways, so I wish now that I didn't own my lcp or P380. Bolh nice guns, both "sitting".

[mr surveyor]

I really lucked out when I traded the P3AT. Actually got trade value for the same amount as I paid for it 5 years earlier ... but the trade was in the height of the massive run towards .380 pocket pistols. I don't miss the .380 round one bit, and if the CM9 proves to be a reality it will carry (my style) every bit as well as the P3AT.

[jlottmc]

Just one question from what Wynn calls the Kahr talk masochist: 9mm why, and recoil monster? I'm just plain baffled there.

[MW surveyor]

Didn't give my P3AT away but whoever bought it got a good deal (pocket clip, 75 rounds 380, uncle mikes pocket holster). Sold it through my LGS in about 3 days. This was after I got the CW9 from them. Knew it would sell but didn't think it would go for the price or so quick.

CM9? You mean I've got to have another small 9 mm to go with my CW9?

[tconroy]

If i was only allowed 2 guns (which I am) I would choose the sp 101 357 and the CW9. I searched to find 2 of the most excellent combination of revolver and semi auto's and found it. I will keep both of these forever! I just shot the Kahr for the first time today and I must say it was FLAWLESS!!! Not one problem what so ever!!! The recoil is so mild that i wont need an inner tube or houge jr. grips cover. It is now broke in and cleaned up for the next day of shooting. I got some non chlorinated brake cleaner and it works great. My bore snake fits both guns and they are sparkling clean. I manage to put some in the 10 from 50 ft. but will need some work for sure. All the groups were in the 5" range anyway which is good enough for a CCW weapon. It has now earned it's place on my hip and I will be proud to carry it knowing that it will function without a clitch.:D:D:33:

[jocko]

tconroy: nice report, great gun, u picked two winners to.

[tconroy]

tconroy: nice report, great gun, u picked two winners to.
3 actually, Jocko. My wife of 28 years!:D Also thanks for your info in the tech section. This thing can be stripped down in less than 30 seconds!!! Easier to clean than my 357. The brake cleaner is a must too. $2.69 a can and will last for months.

[MW surveyor]

Another SP 101/CW9 convert!

Hey, part of the "fun" of a revolver is stripping it down to componet pieces, cleaning, oiling and reassembly.

BTW - napa had the 3m brake cleaner on sale last week(?) for $2.00 a can. Jumped on it and now have 5 cans of the stuff.

[tconroy]

I got mine at Advance Auto. I t is the valvoline brand but still, it will last a LONG time.

[wyntrout]

Dang! It's a good thing he didn't try a PM9, if the CW9 kicks so much!

A few days ago I checked out the ammo at our local Walmart and they had everything, including about 5 kinds of .380 FMJ. I think they even had Federal .380 and it was priced only a buck more than the .45 ACP. I look every time I go to one of those stores just to see how the ammo supply is doing. I don't need any, but I keep looking.

Wynn:)

[mr surveyor]

Another SP 101/CW9 convert!

Hey, part of the "fun" of a revolver is stripping it down to componet pieces, cleaning, oiling and reassembly.

BTW - napa had the 3m brake cleaner on sale last week(?) for $2.00 a can. Jumped on it and now have 5 cans of the stuff.



you mean strip it down like this:D?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/cowpi/SP101EXPLODED.jpg


I just had to do it after firing the first few rounds in the back yard to function test. Mine was a never fired, safe queen, 1995 model owned by a "collector". I bought it last fall and put the first round through the gun since it left the factory. I knew, since it was 15 years old, it would have a good amount of dried lube laquer inside the guts... and it did. It's all nice and slicky inside now:)


ETA: you will note that my trigger was apparantly constructed backwards... naahhh... not really

[MW surveyor]

Exactly!

Hey, mine's the same year #.

Did you make that picture so that you could put it back together again correctly? If you haven't done so, just wait till you take the trigger group apart. Step by step photos are almost a must have.

BTW - the Ruger site shows how to clean a revolver. They don't take it down to the component pieces. If I'm really lazy, I just clean the barrel, chambers and give the rest a good scrub. Stainless Steel, the lazy man's gun material of choice. ;)

[mr surveyor]

I've only stripped it down to that level a couple of times, the first being to get out the 15 year old dried gunk before I really started shooting it, and the other just because I wanted to. I didn't have a need to detail strip the trigger group, but would if it were absolutely necessary. The first time was a bear to get the trigger group out, since it was thotoughly glued in my grease shellac .. laquer... whatever you want to call the nice thin, brown layer of glue. It's such a nice thing to not have to remove side plates and fear dropping out a bunch of loose tiny parts to do a detail cleaning on a revo.

[MW surveyor]

Know what you mean about the side plates!

I don't strip mine down to the individual groups all of the time but do it at least every two or three trips to the range. Went down to the groups when I first got it from the evil pawn shop as I did not know what kind of care that the gun recieved from its former owner. It was pretty clean but there was a bit of gunk that came out after a good spray with the brake cleaner.

Took the trigger group all the way down after the first outing, just to see if I could do it and inspect the parts. Wasn't real hard but I don't want to do it on a regular basis.

[jlottmc]

I usually detail strip a revolver when I first get it, clean it really well, and don't strip it again unless I have a problem. I don't have problems with my round guns, blue or stainless.

[MrToad]

I alternate carry between a SP101 and CW9 myself. The SP101 gets field duty and the CW9 gets pleasure duty. The thing that I have been searching for for years is a combination of similar feeling triggers in revo and semi. So far, this is the best I've run across in many attempts. I love my 3" SP101 .357 mag and my CW9 .... so much I started reloading .357 as of today. Still have all my fingers and a perfectly functional SP101:D


survMy wife has a 3" SP101 for personal protection. Great gun, but its trigger did take some getting used to for me. I'm not normally a wheelgun person, but the Ruger really caught my eye. I may have to get one for myself one of these days.

BTW, nice strip photos.:)

[tconroy]

NICE PIC! Looks like a blown up parts diagram. Is it ok to get the brake cleaner on the polymer gun body??? thats how I clean the inside out with some spray then re-oiled after it dried making sure the trigger got a drop on each side.

[mr surveyor]

MWS ... if you get the chance, pop me a link to the detail takedown on the trigger group. You may have already and I overlooked it - I'll go back and re-read for it.


tconroy ... if you're concerned with any solvent affectinf the Ruger grip, just take out the grip panel screw, pop off the panels, and slide the rubber grip off the frame. Just don't loose your spring retainer "take down" pin that's nested in the grip.

[MW surveyor]

ms - don't have a link in mind at present (a mind is a terrible thing to loose). there was an old link to an IBOK that I downloaded last year. you may be able to google it up. You might find something on the Ruger forum(s)

+1 on the "take down pin". I have mine in the box. Change grips from the originals, my replacement panels or the hogues quite frequently. BTW, you can use a straightened out paper clip, brad nail or just about anything but wire solder as a take down pin for the spring retainer.

mrtoad - just start shooting the SP101 more, then you'll know why we like it so much.

The original intent of this thread has gotten waaay off track! Has the OP ever replied? I can't remember if he did, been so many posts ago!

[mr surveyor]

I think we discovered that the OP disappeared.... thus the thread hijack;)

[MW surveyor]

MS try this link http://gunner777.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/ruger-gp100sp101book-of-knowledge/

hope it works for you.

Jim

[recoilguy]

This OP must just be a Kahr hater

http://www.handgunforum.net/kahr/26296-new-kahr-cw9-%3D-recoil-monster.html

same post exact same wording diffrent forum....his only post there too.

RCG

[Bawanna]

Maybe it's a dementia issue and he makes an inquiry and then forgets where and what he asked so he can't come back and find the answer or the question for that matter.

FWIW- Forgot Where I Was comes to mind.

[mr surveyor]

Bawanna... you're right there...no...not there..... over THERE!

[mr surveyor]

MW Surv

Thanks for the link. I saved that one for future study.


surv

[kpm9]

Maybe he's is more of a effeminate, sensitive type guy.
Nothing a hug and a good cry wouldn't take care of.

Redterror...maybe that name is a description of his .

[MW surveyor]

surv - you are welcome. BTW - the person that wrote the guide has come out with a revision and you can get them over at the Ruger Forum. Unfortunately, they reprinted the new version and sold out while I was out of the country. Now I've got to wait again.

[tconroy]

I think he needs one of these targets. Sounds like he isnt even holding the gun. He needs a severe amount of practice. This is a Ruger SP 101 357 at 25ft. I have gotten a lot better since than.

[tconroy]

MWS ... if you get the chance, pop me a link to the detail takedown on the trigger group. You may have already and I overlooked it - I'll go back and re-read for it.


tconroy ... if you're concerned with any solvent affectinf the Ruger grip, just take out the grip panel screw, pop off the panels, and slide the rubber grip off the frame. Just don't loose your spring retainer "take down" pin that's nested in the grip.
No, Im talking about the polymer frame on my CW9 Kahr. I was wondering if the non-chlorinated brake cleaner will be OK to use on it. Just dont want it to melt or something like that.

[mr surveyor]

not sure I follow you on the thing about getting brake cleaner on the polymer grip? If it makes you feel safer, just put the grip on another table while you detail clean the slide. What am I missing?

[Bawanna]

No, Im talking about the polymer frame on my CW9 Kahr. I was wondering if the non-chlorinated brake cleaner will be OK to use on it. Just dont want it to melt or something like that.

The non clorinated cleaner won't damage the frame. I'd still avoid hosing it down as theres no reason to. The internals of the frame are pretty easy to clean and a little blast of the brake cleaner inside is ok if needed.

[jocko]

No, Im talking about the polymer frame on my CW9 Kahr. I was wondering if the non-chlorinated brake cleaner will be OK to use on it. Just dont want it to melt or something like that.

It is basically the same as gun scrubber. It won't hurt polymer what so ever..lots opf polymer parts in brakes today, that is why it is safe..

gun scrubber has a smelly stuff added to it to suck you in more. One shold wear rubber gloves with each of those cleaners as both will take the oils out of your hands and make them dry as hell.

None of those spray should b eon wood grips, as it will effect the finish put on wood. trust me that is why bawanna has my wood grips off of my J frame smith. I was careless and I knew better even.

[tconroy]

not sure I follow you on the thing about getting brake cleaner on the polymer grip? If it makes you feel safer, just put the grip on another table while you detail clean the slide. What am I missing?
Im talking about the guide rails and main body on the Kahr after you disassemble it. The main body where the trigger is, the whole polymer frame. I spray out the main area where the guide rails are with brake cleaner where the slide sits and goes back and forth. I just dont want to ruin the main body. Does that make sense? the guide rails as referred to #10 in the lube chart section.

[MW surveyor]

The non clorinated cleaner won't damage the frame. I'd still avoid hosing it down as theres no reason to. The internals of the frame are pretty easy to clean and a little blast of the brake cleaner inside is ok if needed.

tconroy - "asked and answered" as the lawyers say

[mr surveyor]

Im talking about the guide rails and main body on the Kahr after you disassemble it. The main body where the trigger is, the whole polymer frame. I spray out the main area where the guide rails are with brake cleaner where the slide sits and goes back and forth. I just dont want to ruin the main body. Does that make sense? the guide rails as referred to #10 in the lube chart section.


sorry if I ruffled your feathers there... not intended. I just didn't understand the need to flush the grip frame with brake cleaner. Guess I've been using q-tips too long.


surv

[Bawanna]

I go thru countless qtips. I get the ones on a wood stick from Brownells. They just have a million uses. I use the stick end to stir oils, and stains, apply release agent, oils. Real handy things.
I order like a 1000 at a time.

Work on your ears too, much better and safer than your car keys.

[jocko]

sorry if I ruffled your feathers there... not intended. I just didn't understand the need to flush the grip frame with brake cleaner. Guess I've been using q-tips too long.


surv

in no way does flushing the grip frame harm one thing. That area normaly doesn't get real dirty . Q tips are Ok but they can't flush away any stuff like a nice pressurized container can do. One can flush it with guns scrubber if that makes them feel safer about doing it. Both willdo the same thing..:blah:

[MW surveyor]

Seven pages!!!!!

This has been a very good hijacked thread. I got to 100 posts and made "senior" with its help. We need the OP to come back and post agin so we can keep rambling off course! :)

Ah, little sticks with cotton on the ends. Millions of uses for which they were never intended.

[jocko]

this forum is very good at "hijacking " threads. kinda our forte..

[mr surveyor]

it wasn't really a hijack... we're just "talking amongst ourselves" while we wait for the OP to return....

gotta keep the thread bumped to the top so he can find it;)

[jocko]

I think he came and he went. I think his comment about MASSIVE RECOIL PULSE was very questionable for me anyhow.
That ahs to be the first time I ever read of a PM9 having massive recoil pulse and not even sure what the heh it meant even..

[Bawanna]

He may have been reassigned to man one of the many bridges around Kahrtalk. He'll be the one under the bridge trying to collect the crossing fee.
I'm under one of the other bridges, apparently a low traffic one, my pot is empty.........................

[jocko]

I sometime sjust gotta question when a person comes on here with his first post and comments like he did and then never returns. Makes me think sometimes the fathers 8 years old son while the father was taking a dump and he posted this kind of stuff. It make sno sense, now I realize I am a few others here post sometimes and make no sense either but we just don't post and dissappear, we again arise and post again and probably still make no sense. After reading Bawanna's last post here, I think you can get my point.. I am gonna take alittle break for now and try to figure out just what the hell Bawanna actually said??? If I said I willbe back when I figure it out, I just may not get back, so ???

[MW surveyor]

If I may be so bold as to suggest that Bawanna was making reference to a "troll".

jocko and Mr. S - I've noticed that there are a whole bunch of thread jacks in this forum. Keep it up, I like it for the most part. ;)

[tconroy]

Maybe he is resting his swollen hand from the massive recoil. Here is a highjack for ya. Our stor closed at 1:00 today and we have 12" of snow on the ground right now so I did this today. This is the best of both worlds.:D:D

[jocko]

If I may be so bold as to suggest that Bawanna was making reference to a "troll".

jocko and Mr. S - I've noticed that there are a whole bunch of thread jacks in this forum. Keep it up, I like it for the most part. ;)

Mr. surv. I just figured out what you said about what Bawanna was making note of. That ol Bawanna is just such a wise ol geezer sometimes. He talks in riddles so much that people like me with a slight dementia problem,jus;)t seem to loose track of what the hell he was saying. I bet u graduated from one of those big colleges of "higher learning". You need to stick around here alot more, u can be of great help to many of us??

[jocko]

If I may be so bold as to suggest that Bawanna was making reference to a "troll".

jocko and Mr. S - I've noticed that there are a whole bunch of thread jacks in this forum. Keep it up, I like it for the most part. ;)

Mr. surv. I just figured out what you said about what Bawanna was making note of. That ol Bawanna is just such a wise ol geezer sometimes. He talks in riddles so much that people like me with a slight dementia problem,jus;)t seem to loose track of what the hell he was saying.

u know when a fella comes here and posts only ONE POST. It is not to hard to hijack that thread:photo:

[Bawanna]

Perhaps MW was a class mate of your at Bring Em Young University?

I went to the college of hard knocks myself but dropped out 2nd semester when they started the removal of common sense classes.
They had us stand outside in a driving rain just outside a perfectly dry building and if you tried to go inside you failed. I never figured that one out.

[jocko]

i remember my first gym class at Indians State University. We were all supposed to wear jock straps . Well the first day he lined all of us up and said OK guys drop um. Course ol Jocko never had a jock strap on. Hence my nickname jocko arose.

My female gym coach andI had one heh of a good "relationship" from that day on. She could always tell I was glad to see 'Her"

[MW surveyor]

jocko - not one of those big universities. Went to a place that few people even hear about. United States Merchant Marine Academy. Can only say that I made it through by the skin of my teeth. I'll try to stick around some, just in case ;)

BTW - I really did have to think about the answer for a bit. Had to associate bridge/living underneath/collecting tolls. Gonna have to brush up on those old childerns stories so I can tell them to the grandkids.

Now I gotta decipher Bawannas last post, last sentence.

hey tconroy - you beat me to the posting of photographs of my two most favorite guns!!!!!!

[tconroy]

good luck. I read these in the morning and the only thing I can decipher is how many tablespoons of coffee to put in the maker.:eek: That's me in the morning.

[jlottmc]

i remember my first gym class at Indians State University. We were all supposed to wear jock straps . Well the first day he lined all of us up and said OK guys drop um. Course ol Jocko never had a jock strap on. Hence my nickname jocko arose.

My female gym coach andI had one heh of a good "relationship" from that day on. She could always tell I was glad to see 'Her"


They had jock straps back then?????:eek:

[jocko]

yup and we even had coffee back then to!!!!! and all gals wore bra's back then, and skirts way down past their knees and oh yes "white bucks" and they really did shave under their arms.

what a great world it was back then. in the 50's. just seems like yesterday, also one of the nicer things about dementia, what happend 50 years ago is positive recall and what happened yesterday, is really not worht remembering, so we don't..

[Rio Lobo]

Well, ...I lost count of how many off-topic problems have been posed and resolved in this thread -- ranging from monster recoil, to a SP101/CW9 centerfold, brake cleaner, to vanishing bras -- and many in between. Little wonder that Bawanna started talking in riddles. Where did he go? But, an enjoyable thread anyway.

Attempting to end on-topic..... and to defend the good reputation of the CW9 -- as well as all of Kahr's ingeniously, well-designed small pistols. Of all the small CCW pistols on the market, the CW9 has to rank near the top in taming felt recoil for its lightweight, small size. It is one of the few small CCW pistols that can serve as both a concealable weapon and a reliable, accurate and pleasant shooting range gun. That's a lot to ask from a small pistol.

Some would say ...compared to what pistols? I have several SIG, HK, Glock, S&W, Kel-Tec (1), Kahr and CZ "pistols" for hands-on range comparison.

[krmgator]

I'm going to weigh in too "redterror". I took my first range trip with my new CW9 yesterday and have to respectfully disagree with you. My previous 9mm was also a single stack and I also carry a snubby. The smaller, lighter weight firearms are what I call snappier at recoil, but not a monster.

[tconroy]

Yes it's time to stick a fork in this thread and call it done!

[Bawanna]

Your wish is my command.