which style to pick

[srice425]

im in the market for a pm9. looking forward, should i choose the one with the new slide/recoil or the older syle model? i was thinking maybe they would eventually discontinue one or the other and was wondering which i should get. any benefit to one over the other?

[jocko]

the older one is now history, u might find on yet in dealers show cases, but kahr is no long making it. 6 of 1,,, half dozen of the other. Both basically the same gun. I prefer no doubt the earlier version of the blunt nose shorter slide version. About .020 longer and maybe one ounce heavier, is not gonna be a deal breaker. So your home work, don't take what I say as gospel either. I am old style and I hate changes for change sake. A year from now we won't even be discussing the older version for it will have been long gone and any new buyer would not even know there was a difference at one time, so any choice is a "good" choice.

[Bawanna]

I don't think theres any big plus to one over the other. I can only guess of course but I'd say the blunt nose old style is already a thing of the past. No reason they would produce both. Also they refer to it already as the old style versus the new style.
Many prefer the look of the old style but I suspect they are like me and just have a difficult time with change.
The tapered nose will grow on us, might aid holstering a bit and its the newest.
I suspect in your shoes I'd go for the new style unless your enamored with the look of the old.
The 40's and 45's are now tapered and the tad bit longer also so it will be an accross the board change.

Once again me and Mr. Jocko hit the post button at the same time. Glad we pretty much said the same thing, don't make me look like a pathological lieing sack of dog excrement. Hope he doesn't say I'm right again, the shock would just be too much.

[jocko]

I won't!!

[srice425]

ok. thx guys. i might go w/ the new ver. just for the convenience.

[jocko]

probably the only choice you will have anyways. as I think this new style slide has been out maybe 3 months at least.

Although I would bet kahr still has some of the BLACK ROSE HIGH FINSIH, ENGRAVED blunt nose slides around...

[jlottmc]

I think the Black Rose slides have been changed too. Could swear it was a new one I saw in one of my gun rags not too long ago.

[RONDO]

I've got both an old PM9 and a new one; I think they're both great. :D I don't have a favorite, .. if I had to sell one, I'd let the buyer decide which 'cause I have no inclination one way or the other!;)

[jocko]

ur dead right rondo.

[Goffman]

My vote is for the new slide, but (no surprise) that is the one that I own. I just think it looks nice.

[kramm]

Did Kahr make the changes to the pm9,pm40,pm45 all at the same time or did thet do it in phases? My pm45 has the beveled slide and it was manufactured 01/10. I bought it 02/10 have had it for a year and a few days now.It also has the notch ot the slide for the recoil spring. Just wondering.

[jocko]

not sure, did the PM45 ever have the blunt nosed slide like the PM9 and PM40 had???

[kramm]

I have no idea on that Jocko, it may not have changed at all. When was the pm45 introduced? Any idea. I don't know myself.

[jocko]

I think I have been told that indeed the first PM45 was the blunt nose edition and the new style PM45 looks now like the PM9 and PM40 and uses a different length recoil rod assembly.

The old style recoil rod measures 2 3/8" where as the new style beveled front slide is now 2 1/2" , so I am gonna assume the recoil springs are different in the amount of coils for each to, although kahr does not state in their webb site anything about counting the coils on the PM45 like they do on the pM9 and PM40, to tell if u have the old style vs the new style, course to me it would seem simpler to say if your PM9/PM40 has the front beveled slide you have the new style recoil system

count your coils on the pM9 and pM40. If the outter coil is 13 coils, you have the old style recoil assembly and that is what you need to order, Now you can go on to wolffs gunspring and just order the outter spirngs in factory setting of 18# or the next weight of 20.5#, which I love on my PM9.You cannot order now from kahr just the outter recoil springs, which I find not good as the entire assembly is around $24 where as just the outter spirngs used to be around $8.

If you have 15 coils you now have the new style PM9 and PM40 and u must order a complete replacement from kahr, as they are right now the only providers of this new recoil assembly. Wolffs does not offer (yet) recoil outter springs 15 coils for sale. I feel they will eventually. by the way the PM9 and PM40 recoils assembly are the same recoil assembly and the same 18# factory poundage. Personally IMO I would have thought the 40 cal being a real pocket rocket compared to the PM9 would have come standard with 20.5# recoil springs. If you have the old style PM40, I highly recommend the 20.5# recoil outter spirngs.

I am sure all of this verbage has probably caused even more confustion. that was not my intent..

[DKD]

I got my PM45 around May of 2010 and she has the beveled front on the nose of the slide. I reckon I have the new model. Now my PM9 has the blunt nose style.

[jocko]

she????

[Bawanna]

she????

You have an issue with woman Mr. Jocko? Some sort of residual trauma from your days at Bring Em Young University perhaps.

[mudfish]

I thought it was Breed 'Em Young University? :)

[RONDO]

http://www.silversfirearms.com/Photo%27s/pm45.jpg Compare :D

[jocko]

I thought it was Breed 'Em Young University? :)

be right to. but I remember them telling me wen I fgot there, we just don't care how u brigham um, but brigham young...I didn't last there long enough to get to the "breeding" classes.:19:

[jocko]

http://www.silversfirearms.com/Photo%27s/pm45.jpg Compare :D

fromthe photos it doesn't actually look a bit longer i the PM45 slides like they are with the PM9 and 40 slides. But there has to be some difference as kahr now shows two differnet length recoil rods for the PM45. very strange "watson"

Has anyone actually measure the lenght of both of those slides I seem to recall someone doing that but it might have been the PM9 slide lenghts...

[mudfish]

I measured my new PM40 and posted a pic with diagrams.