when do these pm9's loosen up?

[Slave]

Ok, we fixed the mag issue. We had mk9 mags, went to the gun store, used a mag from a display pm9, the mags shoot out of it! The mag said 9-6 on it. Went home, bought a mag from an online shop, got home, it said 9-6. It shoots out of the weapon like a spear gun. Awesome. Called Kahr, my two mags are on the way back. I asked that I get two 6 rounders back, and they keep the 7 rounder, wife hates the 7 rounder. Hopefully they will send me 2 6 rounders, if not, then oh well.

Now, we looked at used one, and a new one. I wanted to have a warranty, she just wanted a carry peice.

She racked the used one. She is a little lady, 4'11" and all of 100 pounds. She has these teeny hands, as in she can get all her fingers on the frip of a pm9.

She can't rack the PM9!! She could rack the used one, with a little trouble. The new one is hopeless.

She has 325 rounds down range, and is starting to not shoot low and left, but she is still having a hell of a time racking.

How many rounds do you guys think it will take to loosen this thing up

Thanks.

[jocko]

sometimes for a woman it never loosesn up enough. They are a hard gun to hand rack IMO. It will loosen up but it is a crap shoot. She definitely will need to use the slide stop lever as the manual so states to use. After time she and the gun will get better acquainted to and she will master it, but she willhav eto stay at at. She is also a very compact little lady . evenif she could rack the used one with alittle troulbe is an indication to me (anyhow) that thisis not going to be the gun for this little lady. How about a Smith Airweight 38 spc. A revolver any woman can make work and be confident with also. Ifyou put a set of crimson trace grips on that smith, it will for her be more accurate than the semi auton, IMO. Don't rush her into anything, work with her awhile..

[Slave]

she hates revolvers. She can rack the Springfeild EMP, and the Kimber Solo, both of which she likes less than her PM9.

Looks like I will have to BUG the PM9 and get her the Solo.

[MW surveyor]

Slave,

I haven't read any of your other posts so forgive me if this suggestion has been made in the past.

Why don't you lube up the PM9 and hand rack it at least 1,000 times. See if that helps. Also, if your wife hasn't tried the push method of racking the slide have her try that. Hold slide and push with grip hand. This works for my wife.

Jim

[Garland]

My PM9 seems pretty easy to rack after 300 rounds through. My P380 was really hard for me initially, so I put on a pair of work gloves and spent about an hour racking it while watching Top Shot (made me feel like a participant!). That loosened her up real nice. Easy Pleasy Lemon Squeezy now.

[eastenn]

My PM9 seems pretty easy to rack after 300 rounds through. My P380 was really hard for me initially, so I put on a pair of work gloves and spent about an hour racking it while watching Top Shot (made me feel like a participant!). That loosened her up real nice. Easy Pleasy Lemon Squeezy now.

I must have missed the episode with the slide racking competition??

[Tilos]

I have found, racking is much easier for most with this method:

With the gun pointed down range, extend the shooting arm as if to shoot, and turn the gun into the ghetto position (sideways).
Grab the slide with the weak hand, with the thumb/thumb base on top and 4 fingers underneath.
Now with elbows locked, rack the slide using your SHOULDERS.

Tilos

[pappy42]

MW surveyor and Tilos both offer good advice if you can't sell her on a revolver. The only thing that I would add to the "push" method of racking is that it is seems some what easier to master if the shooter blades off side to the target, bends the off elbow and stiff arms the frame with the onside arm.

Whatever the technique; it is important to note that emergency action drills can require more effort to complete the tap, rack, bang; depending on the nature of the malfunction. The plus side to the increased effort, is that one gets considerably "stronger" with a dose of pure adrenilin.

[apheod]

i thought i had to put quite a few more than 200 rounds through it to fully "break it in."

even for me at 6'2 180, it was a little tough to rack when brand new. id say i had put about 5-600 rounds through it by the time the slide felt smooth and easy to rack. the trigger also noticably smoothed up. i also used my first grease on it at around that time though, i had been just using clp.

i say make a weekend of shooting the piss out of that gun :)

[OldLincoln]

If you decide to BUG the PM9, be sure you buy her a gun you want as a future BUG because she is going to want the PM9 back once you loosen it up. Fer sure!

[Slave]

LOL! Yeah! She is pissed at the prospect of giving up her peice. I will try all of the suggestions listed.

I also have her in the gym with me. She just has such small hands.

Well, I will just have get in the lane with her when she shoots for now, orI can, um, volunteer, to shoot her Kahr for her.

If I had of know how nice these little guns shoot, I would have gotten an MK40 instead of my M&P 40.

Well, I am still getting my MK40, but hey, when is enough, enough?

[jlottmc]

...Well, I am still getting my MK40, but hey, when is enough, enough?

That'll never happen. There is always one or two more that we just have to have.

[copterdrvr]

Another thing you might try is lock the slide back and leave it that way overnight. It'll take some of the "stiffness" out of the new recoil springs and save alot of wear and tear on the fingers rackin' the slide but of course it doesn't wear the slide and frame in together.

The problem your wifes having is due to the recoil springs being "fresh".

[dirksterg30]

Slave,

maybe your wife's issue is technique in racking the slide - http://www.corneredcat.com/RunGun/rack.aspx

[Slave]

is there a replacement spring I can get? This damn slide is hard to rack still, even for me, we are 450 rounds in.

[melissa5]

Put some Militec-1 grease on the rails, rack it a few times, then lock the slide back for about a week. That's what I did with my PM9. Then master the push/pull technique. :)

[jocko]

Kahr PM9 are very stout top hand rack, takes time and getting use dto the gun. Not a heh of alot to grab onto. Ihad alot fo trouble hand racking at the get go but after the gun and I got to know each better we seemed to each want to please each other. I just put on a new set of 20.5# recoil springs and for a short while it will harder to hand rack. someone mentioned locking the slide back over night etc, This certainly can't hurt a damn thing by trying it. once the new springs take their desinged set, nothing should change alot after that. My P380 was a real beach to hand rack, still not easy yet. Just not much gun to grab anywhere..

[10Kahrs]

My wife had the same problem with the PM9 I ended up getting her a colt detective special

[Bawanna]

And this ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls is why he has 10 kahrs and his wife has 1 Colt. A dang fine one at that.

I like it, no matter how you get r dun.

[jocko]

My wife had the same problem with the PM9 I ended up getting her a colt detective special

who is a half as- shooter herself cannot rack any of my kahrs. She can make the G19 dance though..

[OldLincoln]

As to answer you initial question - how many times do I need to rack it before it loosens up.... the answer... "Just a few more."

Like in how much money is enough... "Just a little more."

I absolutely know you are getting closer, but I don't know the exact round count. In fact I don't know if mine loosened up or I got used to it. Probably some of both.

What helped me at first was to play with it a lot - unloaded of course. I even got a pair of the cotton gardening gloves and racked it a lot. I was assured those racks don't count against the recoil spring replacement count. Maybe if she did that on a regular basis for a couple weeks they would meet somewhere in the middle.

Just don't give up on it. The longer I have mine the more I like it, which is a common story around here.

[Slave]

she loves the PM9, and a nice minituck for it, I told her she can't carry it until she can rack it, and do the tap rack bang drill.

She's pissed, but it's a safety thing.

She does the two handed method from cornered cat. It worked with a used one she picked up before getting the new one, now she's mad I didn't get her the used one, maybe I should have.

[JD Cowles]

:D At least that's where i'm at as of this morning. I was amazed at how tight that little gun was at first and am really happy with how it's broken/breaking in. Keep shooting and it will loosen nicely.