Meticulous, different from lucky?

[toptog]

Please let me start off by saying that I take every purchase of fishing gear and firearms very seriously. :)

With that out of the way, after bringing any new baby home, I like to tear it down and do every bit of prepping, cleaning and conditioning that I could do before I take it out, and doing the same after using it. Do any of you think that it could avoid any of the issues that anyone is having with their guns.

I have two Kahrs, a P380 (1000 rounds with perhaps <10 hiccups) and a PM9 (700 rounds and Zero) and with the tlc I've shown them and will contintue to do, I really feel they are 100 percent RELIABLE.

If I'm one of the lucky few, I'll take that too.

[GadsdenGalt]

I really think most of the Kahr related problems are due to the fact that people do not read the friggin owner's manual. Hell most problems are probably due to user error but no one will ever admit to that. (glock kabooms) My Kahrs have been wonderful and I am just as meticulous.

I do not think having properly functioning weapons is luck. It is should be expected as long as you do your part.

[jocko]

topdog, not lucky, just good guns and you prepped them correctly to, u took nothing for granite..

[Dietrich]

In my experience,you make your own luck most of the time.Making sure your equipment,whether it`s fishing,shooting or whatever is well maintained makes for very few headaches later.I`m one of those strange people who enjoy cleaning my firearms as much as shooting them.To me it`s not a chore.It`s another hobby of sorts.You`re definately on the right track.

[jocko]

ur right deit> it is all about how also I think one was brought up, I never had jack sh-t when I was youjng, so everything my parents boughtme or I saved and bought I had to take care of. My first fishing reel was a Mitchell 300 bought from sear and roebuck catalog. Over 55 years ago. I STILL HAVE IT. I have always takenc care of everything I ever owned. My two harley's u can eat off of any part of them but I ride um like I stole um, but I love cleaning them. kinda of a pride thing. Same thing with my cars.
NOt to sure of this new generation,m we are very indoctrinated into a throw away society anymore. When u can buy a toaster for $7 at wal mart , why would you ever want to fix it a year or two or 3 from now. I love cleaning my firearms but I hate sendng them back also, but it seems today that both are considered normal in the firearms industry.

[Bawanna]

I found a Mitchell 300 inside a wall doing a remodel 20 years ago, no idea how long it had been in there but there were also some mighty old newspapers.
The owner let me have it and I still have it. One of the best reels ever made in my opinion.

As for everything else now day, we live in an age of junk. There are no more TV repairmen or small appliance repair shops. You just might get a reefer or a washing machine fixed but usually they are disposable now days.

I'm with you though, stuff ought to last a lifetime if it's taken care of. One of the few things that still accomplish that are guns, yes even Kel Tecs if you take care of them and don't shoot em like ya stole em.

[Catshooter]

I think depending on luck is very unlucky!

Bad luck is everywhere and very easy to find, but I think that if one is meticulous one tends to find alot more good luck.


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[jocko]

iNDEED BACK THEN THE mITCHELL 300 HAD ACTUAL BRONZE GEARS IN THEM, NONE OF THIS NYLOY SH-TO TODAY.

I remember very closely that I paid around $35 for this reel out of sears and reobuck almost 50+ years ago. . Had some nice AMERICAN made Plugeur supreme casting reels to. now nothing made in fishing reels in this country. a shame. try to buy an american made toaster, I will almost kiss ur a-s if you can do it. I remember when we sold appliances in our business back 69 years ago and when I was a kid, we sold GE toasters that cost around $40, and the chgrome ohn them was real chrome, not a plastic part in them, and when they went back we were able to send them back to GE to get fixed. Samething with their irons also. ALL AMERICAN MADE and fixable to, Now yo buyt a GE toaster with their name on it and it is made in china and at wal mart sells for a bout 8 bucks and under. We hgave had one for over 10 years and the damn thing still works. cheapo looking, all plastic buty it works, so go figure. Oh my how we took for granite stuff in the past that today we wish we could have back. Course u know if GE made AN AMEIRCAN MADE TOASTER AND COFFEE POT ORF IRON. We also could not afford them ...

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[onegun]

Every handgun I get get's the same treatment. I thoroughly read the manual even if I've shot the same platform many, many times. Who knows, things change. I pay attention to others experiences and especially things like the excellent prep and lube information on this forum. I clean, prep and lube each meticulously before I shoot it.

My experience has been primarily with SIGs, 1911s and Kahrs in the autos, although I have owned and fired others. I also have several revolvers. I have owned only five Kahrs but many DA/SA and DAK SIGs. Of the Kahrs the two PM9s I owned were 100% out of the box. They were great handguns, just didn't fit my needs. My current K9 is also 100%. No malfunctions, ever! My previous NYPD trigger K9 had only one incident, but it was a serious (read unsafe) one and had to be returned to the factory. After that it was fine. My current P380 has had more malfunctions than not in over 400 rounds fired. Had to be completely rebuilt by Kahr. The jury is still out on that one.

Of the many SIGs I have owned or been issued (about 15) I have had only one malfunction in over 9 years and probably 18,000 rounds fired. That happened early on a new P220 and went back to SIG where they found a substandard extractor to be the problem. No problems since. I hear of others who have had problems with SIGs but that has not been my experience. I do not shoot substandard ammo or reloads in handguns. I do reload for rifles but have other things I prefer to spend my time on instead of reloading handgun ammo.

I consider myself meticulous with my handguns. If you are meticulous I believe you will avoid most problems. But sometimes, with some pistols, you are just lucky if you do not have problems with it. My experience and observations of others puts the P380 in that category. And, based on my experience and observations, when I recently wanted another .45 ACP I seriously considered the Kahrs. If there had been a K45, I probably would have opted for it. Instead, I purchased another SIG.

[Jeremiah/Az]

Another Mitchell 300 fan here. I have my first one from when I was a kid & several more. Took me a while to learn how to cast with that first one.

I did not read the manuals or know about this site when I got my PM9 & P380. I cleaned & greased them. The only malfunction I had was hand racking the PM9. No other FTF or extract with either gun.

[earle8888]

My experience is The more I practice the LUCKIER I get!

[Catshooter]

My experience is The more I practice the LUCKIER I get!

That rigth there is a true statement I found.


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