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packinaglock
04-09-2011, 07:54 AM
Summers here in Florida can sweat you out big time. The problem is my mag release keeps rusting. I oil and a couple of days later it's back. The button even starts to stick. Does someone make a stainless button? or perhaps the spring behind the button? Anyone else had this problem?
jocko
04-09-2011, 08:12 AM
the mag release spring is a one peace rod, even if it rusts, it should work the same. No one makes a stainless mag button, ur just gonna have to keep an eye on that area, probably any other non stainless object down your way is in harms way to. Now a easy solution would be to get the hell out of Florida and move up to the state that was part of the northern agression years ago. INDIANA.
packinaglock
04-09-2011, 08:47 AM
Thanks, The humidity & heat here in the summer makes you start to sweat at about two steps outside the door. I've thought about moving a little further North when I retire.
jlottmc
04-09-2011, 09:00 AM
I just found a product called Barricade rust preventer. This is good stuff, summers here in TX are no laughing matter, and this stuff has proven itself to me. Academy has it in spray cans, and my LGS has it in an oil bottle. Follow the directions, let it dry, then oil and grease lightly over the top. No more rust. In fact I used it on a blued steel snubbie, and have no problems carrying close to the body with it.
jocko
04-09-2011, 10:33 AM
they say stainless can rust, as it has IRON in it make up. If u have that old rusty ass model 60 that certainly no one wants, I might be able to work up a $100 to taqke that butt ugly peace off ur hands.
I still have mine that I bought in 1970 for $160. but its lonbely and I am assuming your model 60 is a female, for my alpha version has never rusted, so I am just assuming!!!!!
Jeff00042
04-09-2011, 10:47 AM
Corrosion X or Boeshield might give you better protection. They are top rated for long-term rust protection. Eezox is also well respected.
Catshooter
04-09-2011, 11:55 AM
I live in Largo Florida, so I feel your pain.
All ferrous materials rust, that includes all stainless steels. It should be spelled 'stain-less'.
I offer two solutions for you. First a holster that prevents sweat getting to the mag catch?
Or, buy an extra mag catch and send it to Armalloy (Google 'em) in Pa. They can hard chrome it and then it will never, ever rust.
Now that I've thought about it, I should send mine off to them and get it done. I've had Armalloy do work for me in the past and they're top notch.
Cat
Bawanna
04-09-2011, 12:27 PM
Are you using a holster? Leather, fabric, Kydex?
I'm in hot/humid AZ with monsoon summer storms almost everyday. I've had eight KAHR pistols (P/PM/MK/K) and not a sign of rust.
I do remember an old S&W Model 60 that I carried in the waist band years ago for work. We had to supply our own duty weapons. I thought the stainless was impervious to rust...until I removed the grip panels. Even the original grip panels showed damage from the moisture. It was irreparable damage to the stainless, but at least concealed under the grip panels. I never carried w/o a holster again.
I've ran accross dozens of guns with nasty under the grip panels. Some just never take them off. They clean, get solvent and stuff trapped underneath and moisture sweat etc. The wood attracts moisture like leather holster in storage close to the frame and bad things happen. It's nearly as important to finish the inside of the grip as the outside. I also put Du Lite on the frame under the grip and remove them couple times a year.
I think the Barricade stuff mentions is the old Shield by Birchwood Casey. I think it's pretty good stuff too. Has a waxing agent, made for long term storage similar to Du Lite.
jlottmc
04-09-2011, 01:25 PM
It is Birchwood Casey. I don't know about any other names it may have gone under, but there is a film left behind that is slick, and not waxy. Like I said, I like it a bunch, those others, when I find them around here may try them too.
Bawanna
04-09-2011, 01:48 PM
Actually some of my memory cells regenerated and it was Sheath, not Shield. Had a pleasant smell to it too. It doesn't feel waxy but it makes it stick so it don't run down on rifles into the action and stuff.
CarlCyrus
04-09-2011, 05:48 PM
Corrosion X or Boeshield might give you better protection. They are top rated for long-term rust protection. Eezox is also well respected.
I use them on my outboard motors in saltwater. Both leave a sticky waxy residue behind. Not sure that is good for small parts that have to move.
Carl
packinaglock
04-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Are you using a holster? Leather, fabric, Kydex?
I'm in hot/humid AZ with monsoon summer storms almost everyday. I've had eight KAHR pistols (P/PM/MK/K) and not a sign of rust.
I do remember an old S&W Model 60 that I carried in the waist band years ago for work. We had to supply our own duty weapons. I thought the stainless was impervious to rust...until I removed the grip panels. Even the original grip panels showed damage from the moisture. It was irreparable damage to the stainless, but at least concealed under the grip panels. I never carried w/o a holster again.
Leather (pocket holster), Kydex (IWB). I knew AZ was hot but I always heard that ya'll had a dry heat. I know the humidity is what tears us up. I took my mag release out today and see where it is lightly pitted from the rust so I may just buy a new one and send it to that place in PA mentioned by Catshooter and have it chromed.
jocko
04-09-2011, 07:23 PM
someof those speciality shops can black chrome also. I think apwcogan.com can do that stuff.
Catshooter
04-10-2011, 09:19 PM
I've never had a leather holster that I didn't sweat through, just FYI.
Cat
packinaglock
02-03-2018, 05:57 AM
I live in Largo Florida, so I feel your pain.
All ferrous materials rust, that includes all stainless steels. It should be spelled 'stain-less'.
I offer two solutions for you. First a holster that prevents sweat getting to the mag catch?
Or, buy an extra mag catch and send it to Armalloy (Google 'em) in Pa. They can hard chrome it and then it will never, ever rust.
Now that I've thought about it, I should send mine off to them and get it done. I've had Armalloy do work for me in the past and they're top notch.
Cat
Thanks, sounds like that may be a long term solution.
JD950
02-05-2018, 12:16 PM
A couple thoughts: You could also look at a tennifer type finish for the new button. Pretty rust resistant and might look original, if you care. You could also look into getting Birdsong Black T applied to the new button. It is quite durable.
If sweat is causing your problems, rather than just the humidity, consider switching to horsehide or kydex holster. Cowhide absorbs much more moisture and will carry that over to the gun.
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