T9 back from Robar w/pics

[dannyeller]

Bought myself a T9 and a MK40 and had them waiting for me once I got back from Afghanistan. Did some custom work to both. Both have the checkered wood grips and Novak Tritium Sights. I also beveled the mag well, polished the chamber/feedramp and some trigger components. In addition I cleaned up a lot of machine marks on the inside of the mag wells and other areas of the pistols. I also had some engraving type checkering on the front strap and trigger guard. All of that was really hard to do as the steal Kahr uses is very hard. On the MK40 I also sent it to Mag-na-port. I then sent them to Robar for the Black Rogard finish with NP3 on all internals.

I've got plenty of Plastic guns. I'm not saying anything bad about them. They're dead on reliable right out of the box. But I wanted some guns for daily carry that could be passed down as family heirlooms. I've got a S&W 642 Pro. It also has some kind of blackening done to the stainless and alloy frame. I've put on a frame mounted laser-light, XS big dot tritium front sight and a set of compact Rosewood Lamanent Grips. It is a real hansom gun and quite a practical package. I would have been happy with just it. I don't know why I started this Kahr project.

When I first got the Kahrs I had a lot if issues with them.

The T9's Novak Sights came off and would not tighten up in addition to the Chamber being out of round.

The MK40 kept on releasing the magazine while firing and the grip screws would back out while shooting and were a real pain to find amongst all the brass (Thank God for Lock-Tight).

It took a lot more effort to get Kahr to come through on the repairs. What really got me was that they would fix only one issue and ignore the other which would cost me a bundle in additional shipping charges. But finally after about a half dozen emails and several phone calls not to mention contributing heavily to the buying of a new UPS truck they got both pistols straight. I was about to give up and try and get my money back.

I found all the issues during my 200 plus round break-in. When the sights were still on they shot pretty well. The T9 was a sweet heart even with the super hot Buffalo Bore 147gr +P+. The MK40 was a real thumper hence the Mag-na-port. I like to carry the Corbon +P 135s for my 40cals. The Corbon 135 and 155s have always been my first choice when using my Glock 23 and 22. I would like to try the Buffalo Bore 180 +P+s in 40cal but I'll have to see how the Mag-na-port works with the Corbons' first.

Even though I have not had these pistols very long I already have a collection of holsters. From a Fobus paddle to a Super Tuck. But usually one of them ends up shoved in my front left pocket in a Desantes Superfly. Which Kahr depends on how my pants fit. That is where I always carried my back-up so I just kept the habit while doing CCW. When working around the house or taking a quick bike ride (on either a 21 speed or a RoadGlide) I'll shove one of the Kahrs in the Superfly and then stick it into a Blackhawk fanny pack.

What do you guys think of my Kahrs?

Note that the smudges in the finish are there just because I was so excited to take pictures I forgot to wipe them off. Since I borrowed her camera to take the pics, notice what my little girl named them.

[MikeyKahr]

dannyeller, first off and most importantly, thank you very much for your service to our country. The pics are fantastic and the guns are even better!! Congratulations to you on your new heirloom pieces. I'm sorry to hear that it took time and cash to get them running right, but I'm glad to hear that they're doing so well now. Congrats again...and thanks again! P.S. That T9 is calling my name!!

[dannyeller]

You're right about the T9 call'n out. I had just bought the MK40 and saw the T9. Always wanted a S&W M39 and from what I was reading this is the closest thing to one. But honestly... the T9 feels even better in the hand than even the M39. Until I got the T9 the M39 had been the best fit'n gun I've ever shot or even just took hold of. That is saying something since after 25 years in the Army, several years as a law enforcement officer and more than 15 years as an IPSC competitor I've shot my share of firearms. I guess that is why it shoots so soft even with the hottest loads.

And thanks for the kind words. They are appreciated.

[ripley16]

The black T9, Wow!




That's it.... "Wow!"



Words escape me except for Gorgeous! Now my T9 is really jealous!

[gb6491]

Very nice!

[Willieboy]

Thank you for your service and welcome home Danny. I love your pistols. The finish is beautiful. I especially like the little guy.

Like you maybe, I got into Kahrs because I had an unsatisfied itch never having pulled the trigger on some of the old S&W guns. I started with the PM9 and more recently bought a K9.

[dannyeller]

Went to the range today. People were very interested in the T9. My wife even liked shooting it. Fired about 200 rounds today. No matter the load hot or otherwise it shot without a hick-up and was dead on. My son and others on the range wanted to shoot it. As long as they had good production ammo I let them.

The MK40 is still a real thumper. Even with the Mag-na-port it lets go with real authority. I only shot about 60 rounds out of it today. Mostly because I was so enamored with the T9. People were looking at me with a "What the Hell" expression when I was shooting MK. No one in the family or others on the range expressed any interest in shooting it. It shot about 4"s low at 15yrds with standard 40cal 180grs. I took out some of my first mag carry loads which are the 72grs MagSafe +P Mini-Glock Load. Even though these are very serious defense loads it was quite a bit lighter recoiling than the standard 40cal 180grs and they shoot dead-on at 15yrds. Since they are a higher pressure load I believe they gave the Mag-na-port more to work with. I did not shoot any of my standard carry loads the Corbon +P 135s or 155s. Will do that next week.

I'm a "shoot 200 rounds or don't go" type of guy. There are few guns that will cause me to say today we're doing only a 100. I think this little 40cal monster is one of them.

I'd like to know about those with the PM40s. How many rounds can you shoot before it is no longer fun?

[Willieboy]

Boy, I had to come back to this thread again to admire your pistols. They are truly beautiful.

Did you shoot your pistols before the Robar work and if so, do you notice any difference is function and smoothness of action?

[Bill K]

What can I say? They look awesome!

Bill K.

[sheepdog22]

Thank you for your service and welcome back home! That is one beautiful Kahr. Good work and I am glad you got everything figured out.

[TheTman]

Super nice looking guns! Glad you made it home safe, and thanks for your service. Wish Kahr would have treated you better and not made you pay for the shipping.

[dannyeller]

Boy, I had to come back to this thread again to admire your pistols. They are truly beautiful.

Did you shoot your pistols before the Robar work and if so, do you notice any difference is function and smoothness of action?

Yes I did fire them before and after. They had several hick-ups during my initial 200 plus rounds before I sent them out. I also did quite a bit of work on them myself in addition to sending them to Kahr for some warranty work.

I definitely feel the difference! The slide action and overall operation on both are smooth and the trigger seems not only smoother but also a little lighter. That must be from my polishing them some before sending both to Robar and Robar's self lubrication NP3 finish on all of the internal parts.

See my previous posts for more details.

[C0untZer0]

I think even ROBAR recomends putting a few hundred rounds through a pistol before sending it to them.

If you have any slight fit & finish problems, like maybe a spot where you can see the slide wearing against the frame or something like that, you're better off letting those parts wear together and smooth out through shooting and then send it in. You can smooth it down by polishing it yourself, but anyway, the idea is smooth everything out before getting coated, otherwise you're coating a spot with NP3 that you know is going to get a lot of extraordinary stress and wear.

[dannyeller]

I think even ROBAR recomends putting a few hundred rounds through a pistol before sending it to them.

If you have any slight fit & finish problems, like maybe a spot where you can see the slide wearing against the frame or something like that, you're better off letting those parts wear together and smooth out through shooting and then send it in. You can smooth it down by polishing it yourself, but anyway, the idea is smooth everything out before getting coated, otherwise you're coating a spot with NP3 that you know is going to get a lot of extraordinary stress and wear.

That is a good point. I did put more than 200 rounds through both and a great deal of polishing some critical areas and some very rough areas in the magwel before sending them to Robar.

[johnh]

Beautiful pistols! I have said it before, but I do love the T9s. Have not had a chance to pick one up, but they feel so good in my hand. NP3 does slick up the internals quite a bit. I have experienced that on a few guns. I like to have my AR bolt-carrier assemblies coated with NP3 as it really helps their function when dry. Fantastic stuff!

[Bill K]

Were/are you an Armorer in the service? Seems like you might be judging from the work you've done yourself on the pistols.

BTW, this old fart former Marine and Viet Nam vet also thanks you for your service.

Bill K.

[DriveMyKahr]

Dannyeller,

Wow!!! The black T9 is simply gorgeous.
It has maximum drool factor and definately qualifies as a family heirloom.

Welcome home and welcome to KahrTalk.

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[dannyeller]

Were/are you an Armorer in the service? Seems like you might be judging from the work you've done yourself on the pistols.

BTW, this old fart former Marine and Viet Nam vet also thanks you for your service.

Bill K.

Bill,

Negative on the armorer in the military. Although I did work with the Rangers on numerous occasions including jumping into Panama I usually was on the low-speed high-drag side of Special OPS.

My gun work'n skills came mainly out of trying to get things to work right during IPSC matches without paying out a couple of car payments to someone else for what might work. Although those skills did help during some law enforcement and military work.

I also worked with the Marines on occasion. Those armored Winabegos you guys ride in were pretty smooth but the ride off a ship in one was far more scary than jumping out of an airplane any day. I also learned that the Navy treated you all like hand-me-down redheaded stepchildren and that the Marine Corp brass made life suck as policy for most grunts. My hat is off to all the Jarheads for putting up with it.

And thanks for the kind words.

[quikduk]

Dannyeller,

Again, thank you for your service. I am sure you hear it a lot but it is heartfelt. My wife has a cousin who's best friend was initiated with a pitch black night time jump into some place like Panama (he couldn't say or he'd have to kill me...:rolleyes: ). He said it was a "hell of a ride" and some of the guys didn't make it (trees, drowning etc.). Not sure how true the rest was but...thanks again (again).

Good looking Kahrs BTW. :D

I have been thinking of having the Magnaporting done to my MK9 Elite but not sure ATM. Oh, where can I get three of those mini grip extensions on the T9 as my Pierce extensions "pop off" with the slightest push. Rather embarrassing when the bullets go falling all over the ground in a store. :eek:

[dannyeller]

Thank you for the kind words. Your friend must have been with the 82nd. They would have jumped onto a secure drop zone had they not missed it. Most of them landed outside the airfield perimeter and either landed in the swamp or right on top of the PDF that were running from us. The PDF must have thought we really had our act together having paratroopers jumping right on top of them as they ran through the jungle. Actually... one of the bigger gun fights occurred as 82nd units tried to infiltrate the Ranger secured airfield.

The mag bases you see are the ones that come with the longer T9 and T40 magazines. I'm not sure if Kahr sells them separately but you can find them on the T9 parts list and you can see the part number on the parts schematic all located on the Kahr website. They fit my MK40 magazines and for the life of me I can't see any difference between the 9mm and 40cal Kahr mags. I've shot the T9 mags in my MK40 with no problems. The only difference is that only 7rds of 40cal instead of 8rds of 9mm fit in them.

You must have some defective Grip extensions as I use those very same ones on my MK40. It kicks like a mule so if they were going to come off they certainly would have by now. I've put well over 500rds through the MK40 so far. There is a little plastic base that goes on the bottom of the spring. It has a round raised area on one side that pops up into the finger extension once you slide it on. Make sure it is popped back into the hole located in the middle of the finger extension.

I'm not sure that the mag-na-port will make too much difference on the MK9. Although the 40cal is only slightly bigger than the 9mm, the 40cal operates at much higher pressure levels. That higher pressure helps the mag-na-port work. The MK40 certainly needs the help. I can't imagine shooting the much lighter PM40 being "in any way fun" as I'm ready to call it a day after only about 60 to 80 rounds with the much heavier MK40. I was thinking of getting some of the Buffalo Bore 180+Ps. But after several range sessions I've changed my mind. My carry loads are now either Mag-Safes (mini-Glock load) or Corbon 135/155s but I'm going to try some of those Critical Defense 40s in 165grs pushing over 1100fps in a 4" Glock.

In the T9 I use either Mag-Safes or Buffalo Bore 147gr +Ps. The 147gr +Ps come out of my T9 between 1150 & 1200fps. I'm not even sure these are going to over penetrate as they open up much bigger than quarter.

Hope this helps.