Brand New K9 and all kinds of problems...!

[GradyMStack]

I finally picked up my brand new Kahr K9 from my local gun shop yesterday after having patiently been waiting for it to arrive. I took it home got myself familiar with the pistol disassembled and lubed it up then headed to the range. I brought with me 250 rounds of ammunition mostly PMC Bronze and other practice quality ammo as well as some Hornady TAP and a hand-full of Speer Gold Dot.

After the first 2 magazines running flawlessly the problems began. Of the 250 rounds the slide locked back with rounds still in the magazine about 60 times on top of having roughly 9 or 10 rounds stovepipe. Even after exceeding the 200 round break I have not had any more stovepipes but the slide locking back with rounds still in the magazines occurred.

I have since throughly cleaned and oiled the hell out of it and just ran another 4 magazines of 124 grain American Eagle through it and the problem still exists. I am absolutely stumped on what to do the gun shop that I bought the it at said I could bring it to them and they would send it to Kahr for me. But to be honest I am really scared of it taking forever to get it back as I really was looking forward to retiring my full sized 1911 from being my ccw.

I have done some searching and have yet to be able to narrow down or find out what my problem was. And my attempts at contacting Kahr customer service earlier today were futile so now here I am! Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
Grady

[Bawanna]

First check to make sure your not hitting the slide stop lever with your thumb, that is quite common although more so on the PM's. You can shoot it left handed or have someone else shoot it or have someone else watch your thumb. You wont even know your doing it.

The next thing is to remove the slide, and insert a full magazine and see if the bullet tip is hitting the slide stop lever. Sometimes with certain bullets they hit just a bit and you have to take file to it.

There's thread here, I think if you search slide stop lever GB had a good thread on addressing this.

I think it's solvable yourself without a trip back at this point.

[ripley16]

Premature slide lock back is often caused by the new operator moving the lever with your thumb during recoil. Try a different grip, or eliminate that as the problem.

[GradyMStack]

First check to make sure your not hitting the slide stop lever with your thumb, that is quite common although more so on the PM's. You can shoot it left handed or have someone else shoot it or have someone else watch your thumb. You wont even know your doing it.

The next thing is to remove the slide, and insert a full magazine and see if the bullet tip is hitting the slide stop lever. Sometimes with certain bullets they hit just a bit and you have to take file to it.

There's thread here, I think if you search slide stop lever GB had a good thread on addressing this.

I think it's solvable yourself without a trip back at this point.

I at first thought that may have been the issue but I had my buddy shoot it as well as my father and same problem. I even tried shooting it with my weak hand cupping the bottom of my strong hand so I was nowhere near the slide stop and it still occurred =/

I did just putting a loaded magazine in and as long as they are seated all the way back in the magazine they are nowhere near the slide stop. If my understanding is correct they would be pushing up on the slide stop during the gun cycling?

[GradyMStack]

And not that it will help resolve all of the issues, but try light viscosity grease for lubrication instead of oil, especially during the break in period.

I am not sure what the stuff I have here would be considered but ive tried using just regular but it anywhere 3 in 1 type oil and have also tried EWL Slip 2000 both have produced the same results.

[Willieboy]

Welcome Grady. Sorry you're having problems with your K9. I'm not very technical but let me ask, is the problem ocurring with both magazines?

When you loaded the magazine into the frame with the slide not on the gun, you said the cartridges were all the way back in the magazine. I wonder if, during the cycling process, the top round is being dragged forward a little and is pressing against the slide stop. Maybe somebody with more between the ears than me could comment.

Jocko, calling Jocko.

[MikeyKahr]

Maybe somebody with more between the ears than me could comment. Jocko, calling Jocko.

I figured jocko had a big italian nose, but you didn't have to go making fun of him, Willieboy! :lie:

[Willieboy]

I'm soooo ashamed. If you do have a big Italian nose, I'm sorry Jocko. I just didn't know. If it will help, I have big floppy ears.

Too funny Mikey!

[GradyMStack]

Welcome Grady. Sorry you're having problems with your K9. I'm not very technical but let me ask, is the problem ocurring with both magazines?

When you loaded the magazine into the frame with the slide not on the gun, you said the cartridges were all the way back in the magazine. I wonder if, during the cycling process, the top round is being dragged forward a little and is pressing against the slide stop. Maybe somebody with more between the ears than me could comment.

Jocko, calling Jocko.

Yes the slide does push the rounds forward it seems, but even if I intentionally lay them in the magazine as far forward as I can trying to make them hit the slide stop they just barely graze them by the very slightest amount. But the amount they get pushed forward just by the gun cycling they do not hit the slide stop.

And yes the problem occurs with both magazines. That was one of the first things I thought of when I was having issues but they both look identical. I will be going to the range again today and perhaps will rent of of their Kahrs (They rent CW9's which I shot before buying the K9 and had zero problems with them.)

I am going to shoot the gun lefty today at the range as to totally eliminate me pushing up the slide stop as the problem. The 3 people whom have fired the gun all shot it right handed so perhaps we all just had issues pushing up the slide stop during firing?

Once I get near the 350 round area if the issues aren't resolved I think I am going to be sending it back to Kahr. To say the least I am stumped and a little upset I spent a pretty penny on this and cant even run a single magazine without issues! I really hope its just user induced failure but I just cant see what else I could be doing wrong.

[jocko]

I'm soooo ashamed. If you do have a big Italian nose, I'm sorry Jocko. I just didn't know. If it will help, I have big floppy ears.

Too funny Mikey!

horsehead is in the mail!! I take that back, for you it willbe a FISHHEAD, but the message is the same.!!!!

and I do have a big nose

[jocko]

u kinda got me on this one, as the K9 just don't do that. U did not state if you had two magtazines with the gun. if you do test the other magazine out also. to verify it is not mag rleated. We just don't have slide stop issues with the K series kahrs. They have an excellent slide stop lever spinrg in them.

IMO there is only two things that can cause pre mature slide lock on the K9. #1, the thumb thing. easily solved by shooting it left handed, and also by letting others shoot it. Which u have done with the same results but so I doubt if it is the thumb thing but indeed shoot a magazine left handed to test out. One can hit that little lever and never even know they are doing it. eliminate that possable.

#2. Your slide stop lever is out of spec and is hitting on the inside rounds and pre engaging. If the bullet touches that lever it can happen and that top round will always be forward to, as that is a kahr design and not an issue. It should clear.

with the slide off and the slide lock lever back in place reinsert a loaded magazine and look and see what happens. look closely us you shove the magazine in place and see if that lever moves even a tad.

. If this slide locked open as much as u said , you should be able , I would think to hand rack a loaded magazine and reproduce the same thing IF IF is not thumb related.

I don't think the gun needs to go back yet but your dealer is doing the right thing,s o that is ur second option IMO. #1 for me would be to call kahr and talk to Jay or eoin and state what is happening and all the tests you have done to see what is happening. They probably will say it is the slide stop lever or you can even suggest that "could it be that". They will send you a new lever nc and you should get in in 3 or 4 days. then retest. If that doesn't sove the issue, then let your dealer handle it from there on. Kahrs turh around is fast,normally under one week , but I certainnly would give this a try first.

This is their bread and butter gun, it just doesn't give issues lie yours but that slide stop lever is all machined/forged and a few thousands out of spec and what ishappeing toyou is gonna happen.

Be patient and polite oh thge phone, it willget your a long way. If the gun just has togo back then suck it up and do it, it is worht the wait, they don't waste time getting them back either, . It is a fine gun. I own one and actually after reading your post I am going to take it instead of my trusty PM9 out to the range for some paper punching time.

These guys on this fourm as u can see from some of the earlier posts are here to not only priase ceasar (kahr)_ but to help if at all possable. Kahr should hire osme of these guys as techs IMO

[GradyMStack]

u kinda got me on this one, as the K9 just don't do that. U did not state if you had two magtazines with the gun. if you do test the other magazine out also. to verify it is not mag rleated. We just don't have slide stop issues with the K series kahrs. They have an excellent slide stop lever spinrg in them.

IMO there is only two things that can cause pre mature slide lock on the K9. #1, the thumb thing. easily solved by shooting it left handed, and also by letting others shoot it. Which u have done with the same results but so I doubt if it is the thumb thing but indeed shoot a magazine left handed to test out. One can hit that little lever and never even know they are doing it. eliminate that possable.

#2. Your slide stop lever is out of spec and is hitting on the inside rounds and pre engaging. If the bullet touches that lever it can happen and that top round will always be forward to, as that is a kahr design and not an issue. It should clear.

with the slide off and the slide lock lever back in place reinsert a loaded magazine and look and see what happens. look closely us you shove the magazine in place and see if that lever moves even a tad.

. If this slide locked open as much as u said , you should be able , I would think to hand rack a loaded magazine and reproduce the same thing IF IF is not thumb related.

I don't think the gun needs to go back yet but your dealer is doing the right thing,s o that is ur second option IMO. #1 for me would be to call kahr and talk to Jay or eoin and state what is happening and all the tests you have done to see what is happening. They probably will say it is the slide stop lever or you can even suggest that "could it be that". They will send you a new lever nc and you should get in in 3 or 4 days. then retest. If that doesn't sove the issue, then let your dealer handle it from there on. Kahrs turh around is fast,normally under one week , but I certainnly would give this a try first.

This is their bread and butter gun, it just doesn't give issues lie yours but that slide stop lever is all machined/forged and a few thousands out of spec and what ishappeing toyou is gonna happen.

Be patient and polite oh thge phone, it willget your a long way. If the gun just has togo back then suck it up and do it, it is worht the wait, they don't waste time getting them back either, . It is a fine gun. I own one and actually after reading your post I am going to take it instead of my trusty PM9 out to the range for some paper punching time.

These guys on this fourm as u can see from some of the earlier posts are here to not only priase ceasar (kahr)_ but to help if at all possable. Kahr should hire osme of these guys as techs IMO

Thanks a bunch for the reply! As well as all the others whom have replied I really appreciate it.

Yes it came with 2 magazines and the malfunction occurs with both. I went and bought some 600 and 2000 grit sandpaper and began polishing the slide stop I am going to take off the slightest bit to see if that remedies the issue but in the mean time I am going to call Kahr and see what they have to say. Perhaps as you say they will just send me a new slide stop, I do really want to like this gun and intend on carrying it once I get the issues resolved and am satisfied its as reliable as can be.

Thanks again for all the help. I will update with what kind of conclusion I end up coming to. But in the mean time... I have noticed some weird marks on the inner front part of the frame I will try and get pictures up within the next few hours. It would seem it is mostly just a cosmetic blemish but want to make sure no real problems could ever arise from it.

[Willieboy]

Ha, so, Grady gets some advice on his gun, I get a fishhead mailed to me and the evil and sinister MikeyKahr, instigator and puppet master, stands in a shadowy corner rubbing his hands together and giggling gleefully.

[Bawanna]

Is this a great forum or what?

[GradyMStack]

Is this a great forum or what?

I have no idea whats going on...?! But I really appreciate the help.

[MW surveyor]

Just the normal thread jacking and sniping at Kahr Talk. You'll get used to it after a while.

[jocko]

I have no idea whats going on...?! But I really appreciate the help.

seemsto run good on exlax. very loosey goosey, but a good forum..:53:

[Bawanna]

I thought we had the OP's original issue on the run and a cure nailed down. A little thread drift is a sign of celebration around here, not to be confused with lack of care.

Until the lever modification is done or a new slide stop lever is tested we're in a holding pattern. Thats aviator talk for all you land locked folks.

[jocko]

thread drift, naw can't be, not on this forum..

If this forum ever gets to be perfect, then ol jocko is outta here!!

[PaiN]

Not that this will add much to helping fix the problem.....but the PM45 I just purchased is(among other problems) also is locking the slide back on a "not-empty" mag...? I've never owned a gun that's done this before....
My PM45's slide seems to somehow get wedged on the top round.....How? your guess is as good as mine :confused:

[Bawanna]

Not that this will add much to helping fix the problem.....but the PM45 I just purchased is(among other problems) also is locking the slide back on a "not-empty" mag...? I've never owned a gun that's done this before....
My PM45's slide seems to somehow get wedged on the top round.....How? your guess is as good as mine :confused:

That might be the stripper needing a little bevel on the front. That's most prevalant on the first round when it can't get behind the cartridge so it just slides over the round rather than pushing it into the chamber.
The slide lock is either rounds touching the lever or the spring bent out of position or perhaps a combination of both.

I sure hope we can get that PM45 running so you can post a picture of yourself smiling from ear to ear.

[jocko]

I have a question for some of the wiser ones here. Is that bevel you all talk aobut on the front of that interface bar (that long bar on the bottom of the slide that strips kthe next round into the chamber) absolutey necessary for propper function???

My PM9 and my K9 does nbot have that at all. It is just squared and I have never had an issue with it. My point of the question is: Has anyone actually talked to kahr about this as to if it shouldbe there or not and if it is not there should it be. It would look to me like in the macning of this slide if it was programmed to bevel that end, it would do it simply because it is programmed to do so. Machines don't forget. I would doubt if this is a separate mod done only by humansj.

Just curious, and is this as it seems in the 45 cal only as we don't see any of this in the 9's and 40's on any frame as an issue. How about u 9 guys checking when your slide is off next time to see if that bevel is on ur slide.

One would think we should want to know if this is absolutley something that should be on every 45 or every kahr or what??

I would think that JohnH would be able to get us the correcrt answer over anyone else..

[Bawanna]

Many have come back from Kahr with that interface bar, I call it the stripper beveled. Wyn is the first one that comes to mind. Load a mag and it doesnt make it in front of that interface. Remember the crunch tick description. If you try to sling shot the slide goes back far enough to pick it up but if you use the slide release as instructed it rides over and you chamber nothing.

Many are square with no issues, I think mine is, I put a slight bevel on it myself. Wyn posted some good pictures of his and I can't explain why they don't all do the same thing.

Your right it seems to be mostly on the 45's, haven't heard of it at all on the other calibers.

I'm betting that most of the new 45's that ship out have the bevel in place, it's a quick fix if needed.

[MW surveyor]

The bar on my CW9 is squared off, no bevel. I noticed that the cut in the back of the mag has plenty of clearance with the bar.

You guys think that it may be the back of the mag being too high? Or the wrong mag? If the bar were beveled and the back of the mag too high, that might cause the slide to ride up on the rails and possibly not pick up the round or rest on the next round in the mag.

[jocko]

good question surv. and if u have noticed we see alot more cracked mags in the 45 than allthe others combined. I have no clue why this is, I want to say bad material but in 45's only. I think wyn even got a complete 45 replaced due to them not being able to solve this.. We just had a poster today here that sent back two cracked 45 mag and got two new ones and now they are cracked. I tend to believe it is not amaterial related thing. why do we see the bevel on some of the 45's and not on the others. Do the slides witht he bevel on the bar have zero issues with cracked mags, kinda hard to trace that without some kind of a poll. My new P380 wheh I got it cracked one magazine, got a newone and never had the issue again. I am lost on any answer or opinion that might have some merit to it. It is evidentthe bevel is not needed for propper functioning BUT for some who have done this little mod on the 45's it has seemed to help the feed issues, but not sure if it has helpded trhe cracked magt thing.

[MW surveyor]

Thinking a little more.......If the mag was sitting just a bit too high, that bar would be slammin into the back of the mag where all of the other mags are breaking. Am I correct on where they are breaking? I haven't been follwing all of those threads.

Could also be the mag catch or cut out for the catch being improperly machined?

[Bawanna]

Thinking a little more.......If the mag was sitting just a bit too high, that bar would be slammin into the back of the mag where all of the other mags are breaking. Am I correct on where they are breaking? I haven't been follwing all of those threads.

Could also be the mag catch or cut out for the catch being improperly machined?

Thats exactly the thought that just zipped thru my head. Wyn had the unbeveled problem and cracked like 6 mags. His was really bad, had to beveled alot to make it work but it still cracked mags. Kahr replaced them all and he got a whole new gun. That breech face might just have been machined improperly or something. It's certainly hitting in the right spot to crack the mags. I don't think the mag is actually sitting to high but too far back or more correctly the breech face is too far forward.

I think you really might be onto something.

[MW surveyor]

Without being able to look at the problem gun, all of this is just conjecture. But .... it could be either the answer or one of the answers.

Pain - Try taking the recoil spring out, slip in a full mag and cycle by hand slowly. You may just be able to see the problem. Of course make sure your finger is off the trigger and the gun pointing in a safe direction.

[GradyMStack]

Just got back from the range....

I had taken a file followed by 600 grit and finally 2000 grit sandpaper to the slide stop to take it down to where it still had plenty of meat to catch the follower on an empty magazine, but it no longer touched the tips of rounds as they were pushed up through the magazine and into the chamber.

And my problem still persisted... I also made quadruple sure I was not pushing up on the slide stop accidentally both my father and friend whom I went with experienced the same problems. As well as a left handed range officer who fired the gun experienced the issue too.

So I had both that range officer and the gunsmith at the shop look at it and they were seemingly stumped but used a Dremel tool with a little sanding flapper wheel attachment and took off even more metal. Again fired another few magazines and the issue continued to persist. The gunsmith seemed to be rather irritated and had me leave it with him assuring me he would have it in good working order when he was done with it.

The shop sells and endorses a lot of Kahr products and said they had never seen anything like that occur. So I will just have to wait and see if he cant figure it out back to Kahr it will be going I suppose.

Overall I am a little upset that I spent 7 bills and another bill at least on ammo and the thing still does not function properly. I really want to like this gun but until I can run a flawless 250 rounds through the thing I am just not going to be satisfied with it nor be confident enough to use it as my ccw. So hopefully the gunsmith who has it now can find the solution if not I can hopefully entice Kahr to take their hand at repairing it.

I will of course give updates as to what ends up happening!

In the mean time thank you so much for all of the help.

[MW surveyor]

Grady

Thanks for the update. As we were discussing in the above posts, maybe has something to do also with the way the mags position themselves in the gun?

PaIn - Have you had a chance to look at the mag/stripper interference yet?

[GradyMStack]

Gunsmith was unable to diagnose the problem so I emailed Kahr...

They apparently are going to send me a new slide stop and it "might" fix the problem. I have to be honest that I am feeling more and more upset over this entire situation.

I now have noticed their is some weird machining marks perhaps on the inside of the frame right above where the guide rod floats. Perhaps this is normal too? Also the gunsmith made a mention that this K9 did not have take down notches? And I do recall having seen pictures with other Kahrs that had them.

Pictures will be posted in a moment...

Edit: Cannot seem to email myself the pictures from my phone so no pictures until tomorrow.

[GradyMStack]

I broke down and sent it to Kahr hopefully I will be getting back a working firearm with all issues resolved as well as that occurring in a timely manner.

[GradyMStack]

Just received a package from Kahr today... They left a note in the box saying they replaced the slide stop spring as well as the slide stop itself. They also mentioned they test fired and had no issues which seems apparent as the pistol was absolutely filthy I sent it to them sparkling so they definitely ran rounds through it. I dont really mind I look at it as a way to show they really did give it a solid test fire session.

I will try and get to the range tonight or tomorrow and give it my own test...

Thanks

[jocko]

Just received a package from Kahr today... They left a note in the box saying they replaced the slide stop spring as well as the slide stop itself. They also mentioned they test fired and had no issues which seems apparent as the pistol was absolutely filthy I sent it to them sparkling so they definitely ran rounds through it. I dont really mind I look at it as a way to show they really did give it a solid test fire session.

I will try and get to the range tonight or tomorrow and give it my own test...

Thanks

they intend to leave it dirty to show u they did test fire it and also, they are not going to spend alot of time cleaning your gun, I guess they figure when u get it back u will doso.

[jocko]

Just received a package from Kahr today... They left a note in the box saying they replaced the slide stop spring as well as the slide stop itself. They also mentioned they test fired and had no issues which seems apparent as the pistol was absolutely filthy I sent it to them sparkling so they definitely ran rounds through it. I dont really mind I look at it as a way to show they really did give it a solid test fire session.

I will try and get to the range tonight or tomorrow and give it my own test...

Thanks

akmazing, in all my years of reading kahrs etc andowning a K9 myself, replacing that slide stop spring has to be a fiorst for me to ever read or hear about. That woulod be one very hard thing for anowner to trouble shoot let along replace IMO. Glaod they got you going. I just got back from putting 50 rounds throgh my K9. what an amazing qualaity gun. Also dropped 50 rounds of PMC 380 out of the P380 with zero issues. All in all a nice shoot. Then took my PM9 and shot a 6 hole group that I cold cover with a silver dollar at 7 yards and actually right where Iaimed to. That was a first for me in a very very long time,so I said ":fokk" it and Ifrlet it would only get worse from then on, so home I came. a happy camper:cheer2::cheer2:

[RomeoFoxtrot]

they intend to leave it dirty to show u they did test fire it and also, they are not going to spend alot of time cleaning your gun, I guess they figure when u get it back u will doso.

Sending it back dirty also proves they're slobs and/or have some policy issues. No good excuse for that. Not acceptable customer service.

[GradyMStack]

Well now a new issue has come to rise... After further inspection and handling the rear sight just fell out of the dovetail! I highly doubt this is due to shipping I sent the thing in the factory box it came in with the form fitted foam so it shouldn't have really bounced around at all and the box was in 100% condition no dents or tears at all.

They also completely failed to address my concern of the odd machining marks which I will be including a picture of in this post...

I have to admit I am really just devoid of patience I spent right at $700 bucks after tax for this thing and am not happy about it. I for the time being have used a little epoxy to hold the rear sight in place so I can go to the range hopefully tomorrow and just see if it functions properly. If it does I will probably just order a Novak sight with the setscrew off of Kahrs website and take advantage of that. to hold the sight in if it does not have a proper snug fit.

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[G3709]

Hi everyone,
I am also experiencing several premature slide locks with my NIB K9. Mine also ejects spent cases over my forehead around 50 times out of 250 shots. My K9 also has odd machining marks at the same place as GradyMStack’s K9. Jay is sending me a new slide stop and new recoil spring to see if they fix these problems. I will shoot another 200 rounds with these new parts to see if these issues are solved.

[jocko]

the sight falling off is very odd, normally kahrs sights when installed will just not move period. takes a good sight pusher to do that alot even I think If I was you I would get a new rear night sight and be done wit it.

My K9 lower which is about 6 years old shows some of that area also in the dust cover. I am very sure this is a poured cast stainless, not a machined block of stainless and IMO this could be an air pocket that occured during the molding/pressing manufacturing. Being it is on the inside, my bet is that kahr will do nothing and tell u it is normal. Just my two cents on that, should it be there probably no, internally not seen and nothing in that area to effect reliablility, I think kahr will tell u to shoot it like u stole it.l

To replace they would have to send you a new lower and then that would intice a new serial number and new registration and have to be sent to a ffl dealer who more than likely will charge u for the transfer, as I can assure you kahr will not pick up the tab on a ffl transfer.

it's your call, u can press them to see what they will or won't do and I am certainly not telling you what to do. I know what I did 6 years ago, after seeing it, to be honest with you until you brought it forward agan, I had completely forgotten about it. Externally my K9 is flawless.

I can see your K9 and u are not getting off to a great start but they really are one super firearm and that slide stopspring just baffled the hell out of me as that isthe first that I have everheard about on a K9

[GradyMStack]

the sight falling off is very odd, normally kahrs sights when installed will just not move period. takes a good sight pusher to do that alot even I think If I was you I would get a new rear night sight and be done wit it.

My K9 lower which is about 6 years old shows some of that area also in the dust cover. I am very sure this is a poured cast stainless, not a machined block of stainless and IMO this could be an air pocket that occured during the molding/pressing manufacturing. Being it is on the inside, my bet is that kahr will do nothing and tell u it is normal. Just my two cents on that, should it be there probably no, internally not seen and nothing in that area to effect reliablility, I think kahr will tell u to shoot it like u stole it.l

To replace they would have to send you a new lower and then that would intice a new serial number and new registration and have to be sent to a ffl dealer who more than likely will charge u for the transfer, as I can assure you kahr will not pick up the tab on a ffl transfer.

it's your call, u can press them to see what they will or won't do and I am certainly not telling you what to do. I know what I did 6 years ago, after seeing it, to be honest with you until you brought it forward agan, I had completely forgotten about it. Externally my K9 is flawless.

I can see your K9 and u are not getting off to a great start but they really are one super firearm and that slide stopspring just baffled the hell out of me as that isthe first that I have everheard about on a K9


You are correct in short they said 'Sucks for you...' in regards to both the sight falling off as well as the odd marks on the inside of the frame.

I just placed an order for a Novak rear sight and if it does not fit tight into the dovetail at least its got a setscrew to lock it down. After I get that and get to test out its functionality and make sure its not still prematurely locking the slide back I think I will be selling this and just taking a loss on this endeavorer. Now that ive had all these issues no matter how well they are fixed I just wouldn't feel right using it as my ccw.

Thank you for all the help.