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prkguy
05-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Hey gang I am giving the CW9 a good cleaning today and I was looking at the prep and lube information and it mentions spraying Napa brake cleaner in the striker channel cleanout hole.

My area Napa stores are closed today but I do have a can of KG3 Solvent/degreaser that I have used on my rifles.

Will this stuff work ok for me on the Kahr? http://www.kgcoatings.com/cleaning/kg-3-solvent-and-degreaser/

Thanks for your help. Mike

Bawanna
05-01-2011, 11:21 AM
Should work fine, I see the magic non chlorinated word which means it won't hurt anything. If it's got the little straw to direct it down the clean out hole your in business.

prkguy
05-01-2011, 11:35 AM
Thanks Bawanna. I believe I do have the straw so I am going to give it a try. Have a great day. Mike

jocko
05-01-2011, 12:13 PM
Thanks Bawanna. I believe I do have the straw so I am going to give it a try. Have a great day. Mike

is fine. look at the price $8.95. that is the only reason I recommend the 3M brand. Itr is normally under 3 bucks. ANY non choloriinated spray cleaner is OK.
I have never used a more powerful spray than what comes out of that 3M can. that is what really impressed me besides the price. It is not a MUST cleaner for everyone. if you have a good oneur using and feel comfortable about the price, definitely stay with it. A clean striker channel is a happy striker channel... Do it every time you clean the gun..:behindsofa:

prkguy
05-01-2011, 12:24 PM
I had the KG3 cleaner left over from a break-in process for a Weatherby Accumark that I purchased a few years back. I just used it on the Kahr and it seemed to work ok. Cheaper is better though so I am going to pick up the brake cleaner once the KG3 is gone. Thanks. Mike

lostagain
05-01-2011, 12:38 PM
The only issues I had with my CW9 I believe were from not flushing out the stricker channel. Before I found this site and the prep and lube recommendations I did preclean and oil the gun before fireing for the first time. I had some fail to fire and fail to feeds. After cleaning and flushing per the recommendations all has been well for the last ~500 rounds. The flushing dislodged some metal "flakes" or shavingsfrom the channel. Seeing those explained the Fail to Fires. Washing the magazines removed some goo and seems to have solved the fail to feeds. I plan on flushing it about every 400-500 rounds from now on. I used a "gun cleaner" brand spray but will look for the 3M in the future.

jocko
05-01-2011, 01:17 PM
has anyone evertimed with the slide off the gun for a normal barrel cleaning etc how long it take stoinsert that nozzlein that hole and spray away???What 5 seconds, 10 seconds, that is a long time if u actualy time it. It should be part of your cleaning routine what ever round count that is..

Muffins
05-22-2011, 09:05 PM
Hey guys, first post, just picked up a PM9 and getting ready to clean it before my first range trip. I've read through the stickies and plan to follow the lube points diagram.

The only question I have relates to this thread. I plan to blast some cleaner through the sticker channel clean-out port. Is that all you do? I know the cleaner makes things very very dry and lube free. Do you just leave it that dry and it won't hurt anything?

Thanks for the great info on here, I plan to take some pictures and properly introduce myself in the proper area, just anxious to break in this gun asap.:D

jlottmc
05-23-2011, 07:22 AM
Pretty much, that area is all stainless steel, and oils or lubes will attract dirt and other crap, which kinda defeats the purpose. Some detail strip the slide and use a dry lube, but again that kinda defeats the purpose. Just prep it, and then shoot it a bunch, shoot it more, rinse and repeat.

Tilos
05-23-2011, 07:47 AM
Muffins:
Good question.
I use a somewhat different method.
To blast/clean the channel I use CRC Silicone spray I buy at walleyworld for about $2 a can, in the auto section.
This stuff both cleans and leaves a dry lube behind.
I'm not near a can right now, so I can't read the label for what's in it, but have been using it for years for flushing out 22LR auto pistols/rifles that get gummed up from bullet lube, etc.
I never need to tear down these autos and keep them running with CRC silicone spray lube and a few Qtips.
YMMV
Tilos

Muffins
05-23-2011, 10:55 AM
Pretty much, that area is all stainless steel, and oils or lubes will attract dirt and other crap, which kinda defeats the purpose. Some detail strip the slide and use a dry lube, but again that kinda defeats the purpose. Just prep it, and then shoot it a bunch, shoot it more, rinse and repeat.

Looks like this is the general opinion is to leave that channel bone dry to prevent gumming it up and causing FTF and light primer strikes. I'll do as told, spray it down good and lube only the points in the sticky diagram. Thanks again.

jlottmc
05-23-2011, 11:11 AM
The more I read Tilos' post, the more I like it. Thing about it though would be that I would have to find some room in my gun cleaning drawer for another can, and I just don't thing I have the room.

Tilos
05-23-2011, 03:46 PM
Use up the brake cleaner and replace it with the CRC.
Oh. I've read the can and it's Heavey Duty Silicone Spray, so with that right there, you know it's good stuff.
Tilos

Bawanna
05-23-2011, 03:58 PM
Use up the brake cleaner and replace it with the CRC.
Oh. I've read the can and it's Heavey Duty Silicone Spray, so with that right there, you know it's good stuff.
Tilos

I noticed after your last post that I have a can sitting right here at my desk. The Heavy Duty stuff. Just gotta be good.
I've not used it to hose out gummed up 22's but you can bet that it won't be long before I do. I think its another Tilos fine idea right there. Made for it.

03dime03
05-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Is Winchester Break Free Gun Cleaner OK. I know not to use the cleaner,lube, preservative stuff. Thanks for your help.

jocko
05-23-2011, 04:51 PM
I certainly would think so, any good spray cleaner willdo the job, everyone has their ownh choice ad reasons why. My only point in recommending the 3M brand was price of less than $2 a can and the power of the spray to, and absolutley no harm to the gun period. but what ever cleans for u stay with it..

Serafino
05-23-2011, 08:42 PM
Break Free's a conventional clean/lube, unless we've veered off topic, it's exactly what people are saying not to use in the striker channel?

Muffins
05-23-2011, 09:19 PM
According to the tech sticky, I took it as you're supposed to point the standard non-lube spray cleaner (CRC non-chlorinated, winchester cleaner, etc) into the striker channel clean out hole, blast away, and not lube it:confused: I'm a newbie though, just want my first range trip/break-in to go as smooth as possible. That Springfield XDm I have is getting a bit heavy with the hot weather we're finally getting, looking forward to carrying the PM9.

Serafino
05-24-2011, 09:53 AM
I guess 03dime03 meant Winchester's "Break Free Powder Blast", which does appear to be just a cleaner.

SCNick
05-27-2011, 12:08 PM
Is Winchester Break Free Gun Cleaner OK. I know not to use the cleaner,lube, preservative stuff. Thanks for your help.

It's rebranded CLP Breakfree, same stuff you pay a lot more for elsewhere. If I understand the striker clean out procedure, I wouldn't use this to clean it out. It would clean it well, but would leave some "wet" lubrication prone to gumming up.

MW surveyor
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
Ok, here's the deal. On many if not most striker fired semi-auto guns (and probably hammer fired also) there is some wiping of the face of the primer. Some guns little to none, others more. Each wipe removes fine particles of metal. Since the tip of the pin retracts back into the channel, some of this metal gets transferred into the channel. If there is lube in the channel, it will pick up the metal particles. If you don't clean this area regularly, you will get a build up that can eventually cause light strikes.

Just clean the darn thing out after you shoot and don't use a lubricant in the firing pin channel.

nobody
05-28-2011, 09:40 AM
I noticed after your last post that I have a can sitting right here at my desk. The Heavy Duty stuff. Just gotta be good.
I've not used it to hose out gummed up 22's but you can bet that it won't be long before I do. I think its another Tilos fine idea right there. Made for it.


I was just at Walmart looking at this product and it says it has Acetone and is not safe for plastics. I know you are only using it on the slide, but ...

Tilos
05-28-2011, 03:13 PM
I was just at Walmart looking at this product and it says it has Acetone and is not safe for plastics. I know you are only using it on the slide, but ...
nobody:
Good to know.
Well, I guess my guns have melted then;).
I use a carpet sample as a gun rug and put a PLASTIC bag over it when hosing down all my guns with that acetone/silicone spray:eek:.
It puddles up on the plastic bag and I dip my Qtips into the puddles.
I think that warning is just a CYA thing, but don't use it if you have doubts.
Works great on mags too.

Auto intake spray cleaner is used/made just for plastic and I use that too.
just sayin'
Tilos

jocko
05-28-2011, 03:24 PM
acetone is not very compatablei with polymer. It wold shy me away from it,..