View Full Version : Has anyone had their Kahr NP3+ coated by ROBAR?
C0untZer0
05-05-2011, 08:42 PM
I'm just wondering if anyone has had it done...
dannyeller
05-06-2011, 12:55 AM
Yes. I had Robar finish my MK40 and T9 in Roguard with the internals coated in NP3.
See pics in the T9 and MK strings:
T9: http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=6557
MK40: http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=6558
jocko
05-06-2011, 07:06 AM
dannyeller: indeed yo have towo of the finrst looking guns I have seen in a long time.
canu explain why the internals were finished in NP3. as I don't know alot about the Robar process, other than their work is super..
bigbob68
05-06-2011, 08:15 AM
NP3 is self lubricating. it helps reduce the amount of lube needed or none at all.
FROM ROBAR'S WEBSITE: Robar’s NP3 metal finish offers many benefits. NP3 permits firing for longer periods of time between cleaning, dirt and powder residue have no wet or oily surface to cling to. When cleaning is required, the effort needed is minimal - usually requiring only a soft cloth.
NP3 is very corrosion resistant. It provides a high lubricity and low friction co-efficient, greatly increasing the life expectancy of a firearm due to reduced friction wear. NP3 is a satin gray, non-reflective color ideal for all firearms.
NP3 can be plated to all internal parts giving smoothness to the action not found with any other coating. In cases where the NP3 has been perforated, the corrosion shows no tendency to spread or migrate under the coating. And it’s guaranteed for life.*
C0untZer0
05-06-2011, 09:58 AM
I've heard good things about NP3 and Rogaurd.
Supposedly NP3+ is even better for corrosion resistance, but it's expensive. I think for an outside coating it looks kind of gray, and some people don't like that.
From everything I've heard, a pistol just runs smoother when it's been coated. People have even reported smoother trigger pulls.
But the main thing is - it really protects against rust and increases the life of the firearm.
A bonus is it makes cleaning a lot easier. Instead of lubing everything up and flusing carbon out with Breakfree or whatever, you can get almost all of the crud off just by wiping it.
It's great to hear that it's been done on a Kahr with good results.
Dannyeller - I have to agree also - looks great. The checkering on the front grip is excellent.
dannyeller
05-06-2011, 12:17 PM
Thanks to all for the kind comments.
You are right about the Robar finish making the Kahrs run smoother and clean up easier. Actually I used to have to literally wash them in the sink with hot water and a great deal of scrubbing with a soapy tooth brush then use either a toaster oven set on about 120 degrees (Slide only) or a hair dryer to heat up the metal enough to evaporate the moister. I learned that during my 25 years in the Army. That was the only way to get our weapons inspection clean without wearing them out with chemicals and abrasive brushes. After inspection we would then liberally lube them with Breakfree. Breakfree will bleed carbon out of the metal of even the cleanest weapon overnight and make it appear to be dirty during an inspection. There is not a doubt in my mine what so ever that most of our military weapons' wear comes from cleaning with harsh chemicals and wire brushes rather than fireing.
These Kahrs clean up with just a few swipes with a nylon bore brush and a few patches. I still use hot water with a light lube applied with a paint brush but now most of the powder residue literally rinses off. Very lightly lube the entire firearm then wipe off all the excess with a soft clothe. Though not necessary with these self-lubing finishes I still take a queue-tip swab and lube the slide rails, Trigger cam, chamber and feed ramp about every 100 rounds or so.
BTW. Do not put your stainless Kahr frame in an oven even at low temp. Use a hair dryer. Reason: There is one plastic part (a trigger bar spacer) that will melt. Found that out the hard way.
dannyeller
05-06-2011, 12:26 PM
dannyeller: indeed yo have towo of the finrst looking guns I have seen in a long time.
canu explain why the internals were finished in NP3. as I don't know alot about the Robar process, other than their work is super..
Although Robar's Roguard Finnish is outstanding in self lubricantcy and corrosion protection NP3 is even better at those traits. But I like the looks of the black finish so I went with Roguard. Roguard finish is also so good Robar gives a lifetime warranty on it like the NP3 and NP3 Plus. As you can see by the photos in my previous links the NP3 finish on the barrel, trigger, slide lock, magazine release and recoil spring guide that it looks similar to stainless. However it has a very slight copper hew in color but the finish is much smoother that the original bare stainless. All of the internals in addition to those mentioned have the NP3.
C0untZer0
05-06-2011, 09:40 PM
Ya - that's how we would clean our M16s too.
When we would come in from the field no one would be released to their barracks until all the weapons were clean.
So we'd wash em with scalding hot water just to get the sand, dirt and crud out of them, blow dry them, then spray em down with carb cleaner to get the carbon off, and basically repeat the process. Then put a little breakfree on em cuz the armorer wouldn't take em back dry. He also wouldn't take em back if they were dripping breakfree.
We'd have to clean em 2 days later cuz the carbon would sweat out of the metal.
Then we'd march in a parade and have to clean em.
Then we'd have to clean em up for monthly inspection.
Then we'd go back out on a field exercise and it would start all over again.
And of course there were the months we qualified so we got to clean them when we came back from the range, and then again 2 days later...
I really hated cleaning M16s.
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