Nifty free Gun database (in beta)

[MrToad]

On another forum a member pointed me to this (http://myifsgundb.com/) site, where a free gun database is in the works (free beta right now). Called Intelligent Firearm Solution database, it runs via Adobe Air on either Windows or Linux. I've been playing around with it and it's pretty cool.

Disclaimer: I do not get any compensation or reward from mentioning this, just thought I'd pass along the info to folks who are interested in maintaining a gun database. Check it out. It has many handy features, plus allows users to encrypt their databases.

[TucsonMTB]

Do you know anything about the folks providing this service? It's hard not to be suspicious of anyone who wants you to effectively register your firearms on the Internet. Yes, I might be paranoid, but with so many scams on the Internet . . . :o

[MrToad]

The person that referred me to the program is a staff member of wvcdl.org (West Virginia Citizens Defense League), and is a friend of the developer.

My understanding is that this is a downloadable application that runs and stores the database locally (you can specify on your system where you'd like it saved and also where to keep a secondary backup locally). This does not appear to be a cloud application that stores data on some foreign website. The only internet connectivity required is for downloading updates or for searches you specify on gun auction sites. Feel free to contact the developer on his site with questions...he's started a little mini-forum on the site for discussions about the beta testing and the IFS database.

[TucsonMTB]

Cool! The description makes it sound like it might be stored on their site.

Edited to add: My bad, sorry. I need to read more carefully and completely. They are clear about my concern, "MyGunDB is a downloadable program that stores everything encrypted on your system, not online."

Still, if you care about these folks you might suggest that they add some identification. I would never have guessed it were supported by West Virginia Citizens Defense League from their domain registration informaiton:

Secret Registration
c/o myifsgundb.com
816 Elm Street
Box 606
Manchester, NH 03101
US

Domain name: MYIFSGUNDB.COM

Like I said, I might be paranoid . . . but, as many people as I know personally who have suffered badly because they or a family member was too trusting . . . it's hard to be otherwise. :o

[MrToad]

That's an excellent suggestion. I've contacted him to suggest he offer some identification on his page so people know who he is. The developer's name is Alan Ellis (there is a facebook link on his site as well), FYI.

[MrToad]

Wow, I just got an email back from him minutes after sending him a message on his site:


I'll add an About Me section on there. Thanks for the suggestions

As a heads up, the app is signed with a code signing cert which is pretty much tied to my drivers license, home phone (they had to contact me on it for verification), etc so they can be sure I am who I say I am, and if anything malicious was done with my code, the cert provider would revoke it -- Just one of the ways I am trying to reassure users.

I added a mention about the code signing cert with a link that helps explain what it is. Hope that'll help. I really do understand the requirement for security and privacy and I'm doing everything I can to demonstrate it.

But hey, thanks for trying out the app! Let me know if you have any other suggestions! I love hearing feedback from users.

[mr surveyor]

I ain't even typing in my library card number on the internet. Oh, I forgot, I don't have a liberry card. Ain't no such thing as a "secure site"!


surv

[TucsonMTB]

Wow, I just got an email back from him minutes after sending him a message on his site: . . .
Very cool! That's better than relying on a FaceBook link that many people will avoid because of the bad press surrounding Zuckerberg's handling of other people's data.

I presume you are aware that every time you use such a link it adds more information to the FaceBook databases allowing them to further zero in on who you are and what you do? Oh, and then FB sells the aggregate data to advertisers and retailers. Ever wonder how so many websites seem to know what you are looking for as soon as you arrive? On first glance, it might seem like a convenience, but FaceBook is worth a lot of money because it can sell everything about you to anyone who is willing to pay. :(

[TucsonMTB]

I ain't even typing in my library card number on the internet. Oh, I forgot, I don't have a liberry card. Ain't no such thing as a "secure site"!


surv
A healthy paranoia, in my opinion! ;)

Hey Surv! We just had our third day in excess of 100 degrees. How is Texas treating you?

[Wolfrage]

Still, if you care about these folks you might suggest that they add some identification. I would never have guessed it were supported by West Virginia Citizens Defense League from their domain registration informaiton:

Secret Registration
c/o myifsgundb.com
816 Elm Street
Box 606
Manchester, NH 03101
US

Domain name: MYIFSGUNDB.COM

Like I said, I might be paranoid . . . but, as many people as I know personally who have suffered badly because they or a family member was too trusting . . . it's hard to be otherwise. :o

Sorry to jump in, I'm actually the developer. Couple things: 1) the WVCDL isn't partnered with me -- I'm friends with a member who was letting people know about the app since he liked it. Just wanted to make it clear ;)

2) The secret registration is setup because of 2 reasons. The first is that since this is developed on a personal level and not a business, I don't want to have phone calls in the middle of the night ;) The second is that the domain is registered with the company I actually work at and I want to keep the two separate to avoid confusion about it.

I understand your concerns, and that's why I have encrypted databases for users, signed the app with a verified Code Signing cert which verifies my identity, etc.

My father was an FFL and I'm a C&R, and this app is being made to replace a hardcopy bound book for us. Your bound book is safer encrypted than being hardcopy -- anyone can read a hardcopy book, but not an encrypted database.

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know!

[TucsonMTB]

Welcome to the forum, Mr. Wolfrage!

With any luck, you will find many people here who appreciate the value of your application. There are several active members who are or were part of the firearms industry.

Please don't let the old curmudgeons like me discourage you. :rolleyes:

Oh, and just so it is not lost in the babble, here is the Link to My IFS Gun Database (http://myifsgundb.com/).

[Wolfrage]

Ha thanks, looking forward to meeting everyone. And hell, people like you help keep everyone else honest! But hey, even if you don't want to use mgdb for "real", you could always play with it and see if you can break it, or have a better idea on how to do something. While I generally don't have to worry about running out of people online willing to tell me what I'm doing wrong, I could always use another pov heh

[MrToad]

Welcome to the forum, Wolfrage! Once I get Ubuntu working to my liking I'll try the app in Linux. I'll probably switch to Linux Mint at some point though...

[Wolfrage]

Someone else mentioned Mint too, need to check it out. I'm an Ubuntu guy for my linux box. But I use Windows and OSX as well, which just means I get to confuse keyboard shortcuts more often than normal ;)

And thanks for the welcome, I'm already enjoying the general chat this morning!

[MrToad]

I'm not sure what I think about the new Unity interface. I didn't mind a similar layout for the Netbook version in the past year or two, but for the stock desktop I'm not sure what I think yet. I'm not so keen on abrupt GUI paradigm shifts.;)

[PattayaPistol]

I'm not sure what I think about the new Unity interface. I didn't mind a similar layout for the Netbook version in the past year or two, but for the stock desktop I'm not sure what I think yet. I'm not so keen on abrupt GUI paradigm shifts.;)

Damn, I wish I had have said that. :D

Cheers
PP

[Wolfrage]

I'm not sure what I think about the new Unity interface. I didn't mind a similar layout for the Netbook version in the past year or two, but for the stock desktop I'm not sure what I think yet. I'm not so keen on abrupt GUI paradigm shifts.;)

Tell you what, I've been using Win7 since the day it was released on my home office machine, and I STILL can't get over the fact that they moved my damn minimize all to desktop button to the opposite side of the taskbar. So, with that said, I know exactly what you mean. :D

[Wolfrage]

BTW, version 0.87 is out and fixes reports. Now once i complete the audit log, the app will be ATF compliant for using as a bound bound.

[Wolfrage]

v0.87.6 released -- It's a point release because I still have a couple things to finish before 0.90 (like data validation for .CSV imports).

* Selecting Business name sets fields
*Resizable -- not everything works as intended yet with resizing but it's a start!
* Audit system in place -- changing fields required by ATF for A&D reports will create a log entry to be displayed in A&D reports.
* Stats count for firearms now only shows stats for Owned firearms
* Save system - you now need to click Save to save your changes when editing the General tab or the P/S tab data

[Wolfrage]

v0.90 Released:

First image added for a firearm gets set as the default image.
Cancel button now switches to View mode for General tab. Yeah, that annoyed me too.
SBR and DD added to NFA items.
Accessories tab
Clear button added to search tab
Left padding reduced in reports
Manuals can be any file type, not just PDF (I.E. HTML, .jpg, etc)
Random backend fixes/tweaks
I got a sun tan as proof I go outside
.CVS Import/Export

[Wolfrage]

v0.92 Has been released!

* Fixed Main Image setting Adding new accessory selects the newly added accessory.
* Random backend tweaks
* Fixed Sort by Current Value
* Tabs reordered
* Consignment checkbox functional -- reports/filter do NOT use it yet. For future use
* Stock type added to General Tab view
* Registration system implemented UPGRADE TO THIS VERSION TO ALWAYS HAVE THE APP FREE IN THE FUTURE!

[Wolfrage]

New release: v0.95 - last version before 1.0 - I decided to wait to let people get the free copies a little longer, so last chance!

* Tweaks to registration system
* Tweaks to how Beta users are detected
* Splashscreen added (still need a good banner graphic though)
* RSS feeds use 10 min timer
* Help menu option changed to point to the Help webpage
* You can add an image for accessories

[Wolfrage]

1.0 is out! Woohoo!

* Delete button for accessories picture works
* Export to .CSV now handles fields with newline chars in it.
* CR box on search page displays No as default.

[Wolfrage]

v1.3 Released! Hooray!

* Ammo tab functional
* Incorrect image set on general tab should be fixed.
* Default prices on general tab now show $0.00 when empty
* Backend Tweaks
* Disabled Range Log and Etc tabs removed to avoid confusion until they are finished.
* User awesomeness increased 17%
* Backend for upcoming Holster tab begun
* Accessories now show total value on General tab
* Accessories now have a current value field
* Owned checkbox on General tab moved so as to not be over written by long firearm data
* General tab Other Data panel now lists Purchase price of firearm, total price for accessories and total invested (which sums them together). Later I'll make display use "Appraised" and "Current Value" instead. Might get rid of the Forums/Gunsamerica box and put more stats there. Still deciding.

[Wolfrage]

Hey guys, I really need your help testing this version before I release it. Please backup your database, just in case as always.

http://myifsgundb.com/ifs/Test/IFS.air

You need to manually install it.

Test the accessories section and let me know if you have any issues or not. This next release will be a rather large one, and I'm not done just yet -- I still want to try getting images to zoom when hovered over, let you set the DB location and have a function to restore your backup from Dropbox; I may not get it all done before the release as I don't want to screw with the code again until I make sure nobody is having issues with this version. I made HUGE changes to the backend, so there should be a performance increase as well.

[Wolfrage]

v1.6 is now out for MyGunDB! Mostly fixes and tweaks.

* Accessories show proper data when Added, edited and saved without clicking another item.
* Accessory types pre-populate now with data from other accessories
* C&R shouldn't be blocked by Edit button any more.
* NFA section changed to add Full Auto to top section, since if it's FA, the other top options don't matter
* Fixed click scrolling in Inventory and Accessories lists
* Manually backedup databases should now be able to be renamed.
* Maximized state is persistant
* Accessory images fixed.
* You can get anything you want at Alice's resturant. Except for Alice.
* Ammo case type display fixed
* Lots of backend tweaking
* AND... released the day before I take a week of homecation. Sweet.

Previous versions will auto update or you can manually install/update through http://MyGunDB.com

[Wolfrage]

v1.65 out!

* Ammo caliber matching for cheatsheet is not case sensitive.
* NFA ownership data no longer toggles between None and selected NFA type when clicking firearm multiple times.
* Tax Stamps added for NFA firearms
* <Insert something witty here>
* You can now have an accessory's price count towards the firearm price instead of accessories price (when building an AR, for example)
* Search now case insensitive and includes wildcards on both ends of the data
* Renamed Import to Restore DB and made it only allow .ifs files to be restored
* Search button on Inventory grid fixed
* Track rounds fired count for firearms - will implement further functionality later on
* Various tweaks

[Wolfrage]

Sorry, please install v1.66 as v1.65 had a testing function enabled that generated a MGDB.log file on your desktop left in from testing a user issue. I do apologize.

[apdturbo]

wow not interested, keep your serial numbers for your eyes only, the gun black market is huge

[Wolfrage]

wow not interested, keep your serial numbers for your eyes only, the gun black market is huge

Not sure what the black market has to do with your serial numbers -- the black market would be selling guns, not serial numbers so I'm a bit confused there, but with MyGunDB the database is automatically encrypted and data from the database never leaves your computer at all. It is far more secure than having a hardcopy boundbook or written list, unless you keep that list in a bank safety deposit box.

[apdturbo]

have you ever seen a black market gun? original serial numbers are removed and another can be easily put on, there are people out there making billions off black market hot guns that would probably love a fresh list of legit serial numbers linked to manufacturing brands. hopefully the ATF would catch a double serial number incase one got transferred but still. best of luck but i'm seeing no benefits. just another thing for the gov't to get their hands on then they have a list of your entire gun collection. sorry just seems like another thing to be easily corrupted.

[Wolfrage]

have you ever seen a black market gun? original serial numbers are removed and another can be easily put on, there are people out there making billions off black market hot guns that would probably love a fresh list of serial numbers linked to manufacturing brands. best of luck but i'm seeing no benefits. just another thing for the gov't to get their hands on then they have a list of your entire gun collection. sorry just seems like another thing to be easily corrupted.

I'm going to gloss over the part about numbers being easy to replace as removing etched markings and replacing them without it being obvious is far from 'easy' from a strictly technical aspect.

You are missing the point -- it's not "just another thing for the gov't to get their hands on". The database is encrypted. So it'd actually be easier for them to simply use a search warrant for your firearms and/or paperwork if they were trying to get your info. As for no benefits, what method are you using currently to keep track of your firearm data? Paper? Excel? Memory? MGDB allows automatic backups, stats tracking, ammo and accessory management, storing or images, manuals, tax stamps, etc.

As for renumbering a firearm serial, aside from the fact that someone would need to get your serial (which again, would be rather difficult since the database is encrypted) they would have to hope that you had the same make and model to use the serial -- otherwise if that didn't matter they could make something up.

So in short, some black market hacker would not only need to find your computer, figure out how to access your computer (you ARE using a firewall and anti-virus program, right?), but they would also need to crack the encryption on the database and then they would need the same firearms you have... You have better odds of winning the lottery. Three times. In a row. By finding the tickets on the ground walking to your car.

And besides, any C&R or FFL is required to have a boundbook -- it would make no sense for them to use a paper boundbook over digital.

I am a firm believer in security and privacy, but oy.

[Wolfrage]

v1.67 released!

* Enter now triggers on the Add Rounds Fired Count textbox.
* Fixed adding suppressor tax stamp
* Window size persistant -- again.
* Email function now includes firearm stats stuff
* Current Values added to General tab Other section
* Ammo cheatsheet count fixed
* More tweaks than you can shake a stick at
* .CSV input allows you to set the field order before import - I'll add further functionality down the road.
* Email function fixed
* Holsters tab working - still needs tweaking
* Acquisition/Acquired typo fixed
* Basic maint data section added to etc tab
* General tab image not displaying after newly set until app restart fixed
* Selection amd Rollover colors for datagrids are darker

[Wolfrage]

v1.70 released -- Setting DB location removed until next main release to allow this version to come out with fixes, by popular request

* Various fixes to the Holster tab
* Math fixed for general tab (damn floating point math)
* Certain notifications are now Growl-type notifications
* Maint tab has Edit function
* Maximized state persistant again
* They may have built this city on rock and roll, but I built this app on Red Bulls.
* Shouldn't be issues with using ' in a Buiness name anymore
* Random tweaks
* Fixed Inventory 'jumping' when selecting item beyond first page of entries
* Double clicking grid items switches to edit mode
* CVS import fields now have easier to understand names
* Can't search if you have Changes pending.

[Wolfrage]

Version 1.80 released!


* DB location setting re-enabled
* Changes to images to work with DB location setting
* Various tweaks
* Popup notification text display fixed
* Can now sort inventory list ascending or descending
* Can now search for person's name to pull up firearms bought from or sold to person
* Beginings of Basic version framework implemented –– lower tier version as an option for users which will disable certain tabs, along with certain reports.
* Woodchuck chucking wood equation solved for both unionized and non-union labor
* Sort by dates in Inventory list and Maint tab fixed
* Systray icon now appears - has option to reset window size to default
* Splashscreen centers properly when window is not default size

The Basic registration IS available at half the cost of the full registration. I am still allowing A&D reports with the Basic version until I redo the reports system.

[Wolfrage]

v1.93.4 is available now. The following are the changes:
* SMall of Back, Pocket and Drop Leg added as holster types
* Delete Holster button fixed
* Holster Desc field displays properly now
* Filter Consignment firearms
* New Consignment filters displays Consignment firearms In or Out.
* Normal filters no longer include consignment firearms.
* Delted firearms are now merely hidden -- they can be undeleted. Use Deleted filter to view them.
* Inventory reports do NOT list all ATF changes as they previously did; instead that's a separate report option.


For next release that is upcoming, so far:
* Shotgun and Reloaded shotgun added to Ammo tab
* Added Action under Stats tab for firearms
* Red border around image on general tab when looking at a Sold firearm
* Clone button added
* Added ability to have accessories not tied to a specific firearm

[Wolfrage]

v1.95.1 Released -- Hooray for the new report framework! More reports coming shortly...

* Free users can have 10 firearms, not 11 like the program was allowing
* Fixed BATF Changes Report to be under A&D Reports, and to display the proper report now
* Check for Update added to Help menu
* HQ Print option moved to Reports screen
* <Wish I had something witty to put here>
* Finish percentage defaults to 100% for new firearms instead of 0%.
* Warning pops up for Beta users to tell them to set a new password due to encryption changes. Stops appearing once they have done so.
* Phone numbers settable in Purchase/Sale tab
* BATF report no longer available with Basic Registration
* Ammo tab now has a box to let you subtract from selected ammo and add to round count at same time.

[Wolfrage]

v1.96 released!

* Fixed Consignment checkbox
* Changed reports so Consignment and C&R toggles affect boundbook records each toggle
* Fields used by BATF for boundbooks are now shaded yellow
* Phone numbers now display properly when changing businesses to match selected business
* More tweaks to Reports
* I let the dogs out. Now that it's been answered, stop playing that song.
* Tweaked persistant window size code
* Fixed Reload/Factory marker on ammo tab
* Fixed first page of reports cutting off part of the last row
* Finance report displays money values with 2 decimal places
* Added Ammo and Accessory reports (Accessory report is still being redesigned for later)
* Export to .csv will add .csv extension automatically if not typed into filename box
* Field for form 4473 # added to Disposition/Sold section
* Fixed default display of Inventory report when report screen first opened
* Clone button no longer clones Serial. *facepalm* It does now display Manufacturer properly as well.
* Gunbroker integration backend mostly done -- maybe next release for the frontend
* Changed CMP Edition RSS feed to their Twitter page

[Wolfrage]

v1.97 released!
* Maint tab can use decimals in price
* Additional GunBroker backend integration added -- not available till next release or so
* Add-on framework implemented to help make future addons easy to integrate. Wait till you see what's coming ;)
* Fixed window size of Macs so it restores properly to the previous size when starting program.
* Button added to Settings to enter registration information as per user feedback
* Basic framework for integrating with ammo search engines implemented on backend; Not available yet but testing background process
* Registration system changed internally to work with an automatic key generator I'm working on.
* Symbol on General tab's ammo display corrected to show for Reloaded ammo and not factory
* Altered minimum window size to better fit certain desktops
* Delete button on Maint tab no longer returns error if an entry is not selected first.
* "Encrpyt Database" button renamed to "Set Database Password", since the DB is always encrypted
* Pre-Ban checkbox added on Stats tab
* Capacity field added to accessories
* Magazine checkbox added to accessories
* Users can optionally select to send me anonymous debug analytics about the program
* A header now displays Totals like the printout does on the Finance Report preview
* Fixed issue with search dropdowns not closing if you delete the selected text
* Insured value displays properly when no value set
* Serial now displays properly as a field when importing .csv files

[Scoundrel]

I'm a computer guy. I run a computer consulting business. All of my business receipts and check stubs from customers are scanned and the paper copies recycled - I don't even bother shredding them. My password list for my own servers, vendor accounts, etc. and the same for all of my customer networks is in an encrypted SQL database with a web front end.

I'm telling you this so that you understand I am not a technophobe, nor overly paranoid about storing things electronically.

I think this database is a fantastic piece of work, and great for people who work with guns for their business (and who already have a BATFE grappling hook embedded in their colon anyway).

But I would be hesitant to use it myself, for my guns.

Why?

1. Back door. What is the password reset procedure? Is there a "master" password (one that you will admit to, or one that you won't publicly admit is there)?

2. What if the government leaned on you to quietly introduce a "feature" in one of your bugfix revisions that uploads the database to them?

3. If the authorities can get a warrant to search my place, they can also compel me to reveal my password. This has been proven in real life. There are many arguments about whether this can or cannot be done, and many instances that can be referenced where it went one way or the other. Some were forced to do so. Others were not. Some were overturned in an appeal. Here are a few search results: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=court%20compel%20reveal%20password&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=af73696fe4de10c7&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=963
The bottom line though, is that if there is a password that can be revealed, and a database that can be accessed via that password, the authorities can make it VERY expensive and unpleasant for me, whichever way it turns out.

It's far easier to delete a password-protected Word doc, defrag the hard drive, and burn any paper copies and pretend they never existed than to wipe out a database application and all traces that it ever existed (registry entries, DLL files left behind, temp files, event log entries, etc.).

So I have to decide just how paranoid I am about the government and their possible interference, and whether I want to go to the trouble of setting up a virtual PC that has no access to the internet, with the data stored on a removable USB stick that I can throw in the fireplace.

Oh, and whether I want to pay $40 (or $20 for a "lite" version) for the database.

I do have one question: Does the registration fee cover all upgrades, forever, or just within the major version (purchase of 1.0 registration works for all 1.x releases, new registration required for 2.x releases)?

[Wolfrage]

1. Back door. What is the password reset procedure? Is there a "master" password (one that you will admit to, or one that you won't publicly admit is there)?


There is no password reset -- the password isn't stored anyplace. When you type in your password, it uses that on the fly to generate the decrpytion hash to decrypt the data stream.



2. What if the government leaned on you to quietly introduce a "feature" in one of your bugfix revisions that uploads the database to them?


You mean after I went to the newspapers and TV media or after I told them to go fornicate with themselves? I'd release the source code to the public rather than do that.



3. If the authorities can get a warrant to search my place, they can also compel me to reveal my password. This has been proven in real life. There are many arguments about whether this can or cannot be done, and many instances that can be referenced where it went one way or the other. Some were forced to do so. Others were not. Some were overturned in an appeal. Here are a few search results: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=court%20compel%20reveal%20password&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=af73696fe4de10c7&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=963
The bottom line though, is that if there is a password that can be revealed, and a database that can be accessed via that password, the authorities can make it VERY expensive and unpleasant for me, whichever way it turns out.


Yep. But of course it's far, far, easier for them to get a warrant to just go to your house and see what you've got instead of them trying to get your password, much less trying to hack the software.



It's far easier to delete a password-protected Word doc, defrag the hard drive, and burn any paper copies and pretend they never existed than to wipe out a database application and all traces that it ever existed (registry entries, DLL files left behind, temp files, event log entries, etc.).


I wouldn't store anything in a passworded word file that I want to keep private. Plenty of tools to crack them easily ;)

On the other hand my encrypted database is far more difficult.



So I have to decide just how paranoid I am about the government and their possible interference, and whether I want to go to the trouble of setting up a virtual PC that has no access to the internet, with the data stored on a removable USB stick that I can throw in the fireplace.


Again though, it'd be far easier to just get a search warrant and look at your collection, if it came to that.



Oh, and whether I want to pay $40 (or $20 for a "lite" version) for the database.


Well there I can't argue :D I feel it is a fair and reasonable price but I understand that monetary value varies person to person.



I do have one question: Does the registration fee cover all upgrades, forever, or just within the major version (purchase of 1.0 registration works for all 1.x releases, new registration required for 2.x releases)?

It handles all future updates. I plan on releasing addons that will be a separate cost, but all updates to the main system will always be included with that one time payment.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

[Scoundrel]

I wouldn't store anything in a passworded word file that I want to keep private. Plenty of tools to crack them easily ;)


Just as a clarification: My current gun database (Word doc) isn't very secure and isn't even really intended to be. It is perhaps a little bit more secure than the paper hard copy stored in my wife's desk so she has the list in case I croak unexpectedly.

I know it's not a secure system. I'm not saying it is, or that I want it to be. Just that it's easy to dispose of. If I were going to go looking for a more secure system, the paranoia employed in that planning session might not allow for a computer database written by someone else.

Easy for you to say now that you'd never write that code in. Not as easy in some wild, paranoid, government-is-taking-over scenario where they've imprisoned your pet parakeet in gitmo and won't give it back until you write the code and release it.

It is a good and fair price. I've spent more for less many times, and will do so again. But as you said - it's subjective. I mean, some guys on this forum reload their ammo! :crazy:

Anyway, I just wanted to lay out the parameters as I saw them in case anyone wanted to discuss it further.

[Wolfrage]

I do understand the privacy/security aspect -- the program isn't for everyone any more than any other method is. Originally the program was written because I needed a way to have a digital bound book, as I had gotten my C&R, and nothing met my needs. Only later on did I realize others wanted to use it. C&Rs and FFLs have different standards, since they're required to have a bound book -- it is very different for the average collector. It's always a matter of how much is 'enough' when it comes to security of any kind -- kind of like single stack versus double stack for CCW discussions, or the choice between using a metal gun cabinet and a 1/4 ton safe, I guess.

[MrToad]

I recently purchased the complete version, and noticed on FB that you've been working on a mobile version, Wolfrage. LOL, didn't I suggest last year you ought to make a variant for mobile devices on another forum? Santa got me an iPad 2 for Christmas so if the AIR platform will work on that I may have to give it a shot. :D
Though...through serendipitous circumstances I also own a BB PlayBook and HP Touchpad...though I'm lazy and don't know offhand how/if they handle AIR. I suppose I ought to throw caution to the wind and put CyanogenMod on the Touchpad for Android support at some point.

[Wolfrage]

I recently purchased the complete version, and noticed on FB that you've been working on a mobile version, Wolfrage. LOL, didn't I suggest last year you ought to make a variant for mobile devices on another forum? Santa got me an iPad 2 for Christmas so if the AIR platform will work on that I may have to give it a shot. :D
Though...through serendipitous circumstances I also own a BB PlayBook and HP Touchpad...though I'm lazy and don't know offhand how/if they handle AIR. I suppose I ought to throw caution to the wind and put CyanogenMod on the Touchpad for Android support at some point.

Yes, you did :D I only just now had the time to nail it out though (took off from my day job all last week just so i could spend the week coding it).

I will be releasing MyGunDB Go on the iPad and iPhone -- just waiting on Apple to finish my paperwork so i can release versions for them. it's the exact same code for the program as I use for the Android version, just packed to match the platform.

And it should run on ********** as well, though I have no experience with exporting for that platform -- shouldn't be hard, I just need to read up on it a bit. You're like the only person I know with a BB these days so you can be my test subject ;)

[MrToad]

And it should run on ********** as well, though I have no experience with exporting for that platform -- shouldn't be hard, I just need to read up on it a bit. You're like the only person I know with a BB these days so you can be my test subject ;)Heh, truth be told I won it last year in a contest, but I have to say with the OS2 update it's a nice platform. BB really dropped the ball (why does NoirBerry get asterisked out in posts here...spam control?) launching it before it had all its stuff in place. Truth be told, as you alluded in your post, I'm not sure how many BB-toting firearms enthusiasts there are out there, particularly with the PlayBook form factor.;)

[Wolfrage]

What I'm dying to see is how the IOS version versus Android stats go -- I want to know which version gets used the most once it's in both markets.

[MrToad]

By the way...I know a blogsite that is interested in reviewing MyGunDB...I sent you a PM.

[Wolfrage]

BTW, Android version in on Google Play now for Android:

http://bit.ly/JunXnB

Still waiting on Apple for IOS version to come out, but I've submitted to Amazon's app store and Barnes and Noble.

[MrToad]

Lol...right now I'm rocking a WP 7.5 Lumia 900...but I may come back to android eventually.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express

[Polygon]

I've downloaded this before and played with it. I'm seriously considering paying for it. For those of you that are really paranoid you could run it on a machine that does not access the internet.

I like this because I'm a tad OCD and this allows you to keep track of every aspect of your firearms.

[Wolfrage]

New release out for both the MyGunDB Desktop version and the MyGunDB Go Android app!

Changes for the Desktop app:

* A&D and BATF Changelog sort corrected
* Fixed Inventory report to use ID #
* Added a checkbox on Edit screen to designate a firearm as personally owned.
* Added Filter options to display only Personal or Non-Personal firearms.
* Fixed Stats display in Statusbar and Stats tab Includes accessories in the values, not just firearms.
* Fixed Ammo Additional Data lines not being printed for other entries when first row didn't have any
* Added Total Rounds in inventory count on Ammo tab which displays All rounds, or only matching caliber if that display option is selected on Ammo tab
* Fixed Sync menu options to display when using OSX
* Pictures now included with syncing and the Backup/Restore menu options

And for MyGunDB Go:
* Fixed image count and current image number after adding new image.
* Model and Type display properly swapped in edit and Spinner display
* States are now listed in a Dropdown
* Password request screen now pops up if you have one set and your screen shuts off or you come back from another app
* Added ability to use Camera to add pic
* dates on the Purchase/Sold tab now use a date selector
* Adding new firearm puts you in Edit mode for it automatically
* Re-added export to .csv file
* Prevent changing tabs when editing data
* Fixed handling apostrophes in data when saving
* Added icons for buttons
* Pictures now included with Syncing!
* Accessories can be attached or detached

[Wolfrage]

V1.99.0 released

* Adding additional images beyond first for firearm shows image immediately
* Inventory sorts now have a secondary sort of the ID number.
* You can select to view All, Only Owned or Only Sold firearms in your inventory for reports.
* A&D Report shows Identifier field if it is filled out, otherwise the internal ID#.
* You can now sort reports
* 43 Monster drinks and Red Bulls were drunk while coding this release.
* Fixed issue displaying Unattached accessories in Accessories report preview
* Password field selected by default when it popsup - no need to click on it before typing
* Selction color for Inventory list made easier to see
* Curr Value Each fields for accessories display with a $ symbol
* Transfer tab added to P/S tab sections
* Can now track Email and Website for each section on P/S tab
* An image of FFL licenses can be saved for when a firearm is bought or sold
* 4473 now shows on A&D reports
* Checks to see if you are running AIR 3.4 and notifies you of fix
* Donation box for free users does not show up every time yourun app now
* Backend changes to update system to allow native installers

Users upgrading Adobe AIR to 3.4 have run into an issue where their copy of MyGunDB appears unregistered and, if they had set a custom database location the program doesn’t see it properly.

It appears to be due to a change in the latest AIR update affecting access to the Encrypted Local System, which is where settings are stored. Adobe is aware of the issue and is working to fix it.

As a workaround for the moment, you need to just downgrade to Adobe AIR version 3.3 again. Please download the Windows version here: http://download.macromedia.com/air/win/download/3.3/AdobeAIRInstaller.exe

or the OSX version here: http://download.macromedia.com/air/mac/download/3.3/AdobeAIR.dmg

You MUST uninstall AIR 3.4 first before you can install version 3.3.

Do that and it should start working again for you. Please let me know if you continue to have issues.

[40cw]

Divers licsense home phone? YIKES. is that to save big brother time when he gets ready to come take our guns away? NO THANKS!

[rholmes69]

The program is great for a firearms store, and overkill really for the average collector with a handful of firearms. For personal use, you do not have to enter home phone, dl, etc. If you run a business and need to keep a digital copy of the sales sheet for a firearm sold to the JohnnyQ public, it is great. It is actually nice to have for me as I do buy and flip a few guns a year. I can enter the buyer info for anything I sold in case I loose my paper bill of sale....

[Wolfrage]

Divers licsense home phone? YIKES. is that to save big brother time when he gets ready to come take our guns away? NO THANKS!

I think you're misunderstanding those fields.

The Driver's License field is for when you sell a firearm to someone -- it's theirs, not yours. That's used for printing A&D reports -- for C&R license holders and FFLs. Same with home phone -- it's used for the report header, that's all.

[AIRret]

Wow!!
I'm not that computer smart.
I'm still learning about the tab button.