new to Kahr

[knkali]

just bought my first Kahr the other day. Will get in in 11 days. I ended up getting the P40 all black. I wanted the two tone but I tried out many on the shelf only to find that this one didnt seem to have a mag release problem. I was going to walk but this model felt good in my hand, had the right caliber, weight for me. Wish I knew about this forum before I bought one though. Hope that the mag hang ups on all the ones I tried was not an indicator of a quality control problem at Kahr. I will give you guys a full report around June 15th.

[crazymailman]

Congrats. I think you will really enjoy it. They do seem to fit perfectly in hand, and IMO the black is the nicest option.

[knkali]

Thanks Crazy,

I know the stores around here charge a little more for all black. Why?

[jocko]

it is a dlc finish, (diamond like coating). any finish over bare stainless will and should cost more.

IMO u have the better of the two finishs. Makes the gun IMO look like a real covert s.o.b. to.That finish will actually require less lubrication than the bare stainless..

[Denny M]

Welcome to the form. You will enjoy the friendly nature of this group. Ask jocko or bawana anything. They are a wealth of knowledge.

[knkali]

Thanks for the info and welcome. DLC...interesting. So if I run out of rnds or ?? I can throw my P40 at the BG and the finish will be like new. Nice.

[Bawanna]

Welcome to the form. You will enjoy the friendly nature of this group. Ask jocko or bawana anything. They are a wealth of knowledge.

Ask Jocko the hard stuff and save the simple stuff for me. We do have a pile of good folks here to refer to that have experienced just about anything that anyone is ever gonna experience. Come up with some pretty ingenius fixes that just save a ton of grief. A veritable melting pot of intelligence with me thrown in as a, well I'm not sure why I'm thrown in. Karma I guess.

The trick is remember what happened to who, whats on first, and who's on third.

[jocko]

Thanks for the info and welcome. DLC...interesting. So if I run out of rnds or ?? I can throw my P40 at the BG and the finish will be like new. Nice.

some info on the kahr dlcfinish..


A couple of years back Kahr decided to discontinue carbon steel guns and manufacture all slides and steel frames from stainless steel. Most consumers liked the corrosion resistance of stainless.
However, Kahr quickly discovered that not all consumers wanted bright and shiny guns. In dim light, the glint of a stainless slide being withdrawn by an undercover operative could lead to fatal complications.
To solve this problem and darken the stainless slide, Kahr flirted briefly with baked-on Teflon used by many manufacturers but found the results less than satisfactory. The economy of the finish was appealing to Kahr, but is soon discovered that the cosmetics were short-lived. Kahr tried another process that required substantial heat. This actually changed the metal's molecular structure and made it more brittle. Finally, Kahr developed its proprietary Tungsten Diamond-Like-Coating (Tungsten DLC), which uses a process called Plasma Assisted Chemical Vapor Deposition to coat the parts.
Tungsten DLC is applied in a vacuum chamber where cathodes transform the tungsten into a gas that plates the parts. The process increases the surface hardness to a whopping 90 on the Rockwell C scale. Just for comparison, your average 1911 frame will register about 28 to 30 on the same scale.
One of the best selling points of the Diamond-Like Coating in that the parts are never heated over 300 degrees Fahrenheit, so there's no need to worry about the parts losing their temper, softening, or becoming brittle. Also, only about two microns of the material is deposited on the slide. In case you're wondering, that amounts to about 80 millionths of an inch-far too little to affect the parts' function or fit.
Kahr's Tungsten DLC thoroughly impresses me. Not only does it perform its intended task of coloring the bright stainless steel to a matte, non-reflective black, it also provides a tough, corrosion-proof covering that is virtually scratch proof. And it will not wear even when subjected to extensive holster carry. For a gun that will be used exclusively for concealed carry, the Tungsten DLC finish makes a lot of sense.

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this finish when done right is "almost" indestructable, certainly much much better than any blued finish and the process is not a cheap process and it has to be done when the slide itself is bing heat cured, so once done, it cannot be redone, as kahr actually doesn't do the actual dlc finish but it is done by a specialty company..

[knkali]

wow I have a boat load more appreciation for my black finished P40. Thank you for the info.

[Bawanna]

Holy quacamole, I think thats the most scientific, articulate and poetic post I've ever seen from Jocko's keyboard. I'm completely pole axed. I've seen a lot of smart intelligent stuff when you can figure out the spelling but this, I'm in awe.

I bow and genuflect to your presence. You who bless me with the great one title.

I'm stepping down and walking beside and slightly behind you.