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Dietrich
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Until last night I did not know you could fire a Glock in SA.A friend gave me a blog post to read about it.It was so simple it was genius.I went to the range today and while it took some getting used to,my accuracy had improved dramatically by the end of 120 rounds.Amazing.Did any of you guys know about this technique?It won`t work on all DA semi-autos but it sure as heck works on Glocks.I`m tickled.

Bawanna
06-23-2011, 05:03 PM
Never heard of it, could you hum a few bars and I'll join in in the chorus.

melissa5
06-23-2011, 05:07 PM
Until last night I did not know you could fire a Glock in SA.A friend gave me a blog post to read about it.It was so simple it was genius.I went to the range today and while it took some getting used to,my accuracy had improved dramatically by the end of 120 rounds.Amazing.Did any of you guys know about this technique?It won`t work on all DA semi-autos but it sure as heck works on Glocks.I`m tickled.

Are you talking about letting the trigger return until it clicks and then pulling the trigger again from there? That'll give you a nice short trigger pull.

Dietrich
06-23-2011, 08:18 PM
Are you talking about letting the trigger return until it clicks and then pulling the trigger again from there? That'll give you a nice short trigger pull.

Yes,that`s it.It`s just like shooting single action but I`ll admit I had a couple of unintentional double taps before I got the hang of it.I shot much better than I usually do.Makes me a lot more confident in my ability to use those handguns.I`m able to shoot a follow up shot much more quickly and accurately that way.

OldLincoln
06-23-2011, 10:15 PM
Saw some trick using a rubber band to get a "full auto-ish" action on a Glock. I have to retrain myself every time I shoot Dad's Colt with it's very short super light trigger.

bonjorno2
06-23-2011, 10:56 PM
Yes,that`s it.It`s just like shooting single action but I`ll admit I had a couple of unintentional double taps before I got the hang of it.I shot much better than I usually do.Makes me a lot more confident in my ability to use those handguns.I`m able to shoot a follow up shot much more quickly and accurately that way.


that's how you always supposed to shoot just about every gun!

Dietrich
06-24-2011, 05:58 AM
that's how you always supposed to shoot just about every gun!

Always been so careful with a Glock I reckon I didn`t even think about it.DUH !! I spend way too much time reading negative things on the internet about stuff like Glockleg and Kabooms I suppose.The older I get,the more of a cautious old lady I become.

bonjorno2
06-24-2011, 06:56 AM
^^^ glock leg usually is cause by no holster.... Ask Plaxico Burres (SP) about that one... The only time i've seen a glock go boom in my short time here on this earth is when someone has pulled the trigger!

melissa5
06-24-2011, 07:08 AM
As far as Glock Kabooms go, if you feed any gun a bad reload, it can go Kaboom. That's not specific to Glocks.

Just be extra careful with your trigger finger and if you drop your Glock just let it fall. Don't try to catch it. I've dropped mine on asphalt several times and it didn't fire. I wasn't wearing a belt and the holster rode up and tipped over.

I have trusted my life to Glocks in the last year and will take a G17 with me to the end of the world or until the rapture.

I just wish they could make the grip smaller.

jocko
06-24-2011, 07:45 AM
[QUOTE=Dietrich;79223]Yes,that`s it.It`s just like shooting single action but I`ll admit I had a couple of unintentional double taps before I got the hang of it.I shot much better than I usually do.Makes me a lot more confident in my ability to use those handguns.I`m able to shoot a follow up shot much more quickly and accurately that way.[/QU


indeed be Ok FOR RANGE SHOOTING BUT IN A PANIC situation ur never gonna feel that click in the trigger, hell if u need to shoot the gun I serioulsy doubt if you will be able to say how many ronds you shot either. I can stage my G19 trigger like posted--BUT I don't.

melissa5
06-24-2011, 07:51 AM
indeed be Ok FOR RANGE SHOOTING BUT IN A PANIC situation ur never gonna feel that click in the trigger, hell if u need to shoot the gun I serioulsy doubt if you will be able to say how many ronds you shot either. I can stage my G19 trigger like posted--BUT I don't.

What about muscle memory, Jocko? If you train to shoot from reset, don't you think you would shoot like that in a SHTF situation? I don't know since I've never had to test that theory.

jocko
06-24-2011, 07:59 AM
would be nice, but for me I an't buying that . Muscle memory,??? u mean when that finger is in the trigger guard, it now knows what it has to do... when SHTF.

melissa5
06-24-2011, 08:03 AM
would be nice, but for me I an't buying that . Muscle memory,??? u mean when that finger is in the trigger guard, it now knows what it has to do... when SHTF.

I guess what I mean is that you've done something a certain way so many times that you automatically do it that way without thinking about it.

jocko
06-24-2011, 08:12 AM
u might be right but again if u shoot multiple types of guns, I would think that theory would be out the door, but I ain't gonna argue with a woman,. I leanred that lesson years ago, as the female judge told me 28 years ago when she told me to sign my home, and all my moneys over to my x-wife.!!!

melissa5
06-24-2011, 08:15 AM
u might be right but again if u shoot multiple types of guns, I would think that theory would be out the door, but I ain't gonna argue with a woman,. I leanred that lesson years ago, as the female judge told me 28 years ago when she told me to sign my home, and all my moneys over to my x-wife.!!!

LOL! We're not arguing, Jocko! :)

You are right though. Multiple types of guns would complicate things.

jocko
06-24-2011, 08:19 AM
I know, just kiddin ya, I tend to add some gas to a slow burning fire. just to see!!

ur ok in my book as the great one told me a long time ago...It's not thatI am afraid of u but I am afraid of him..

melissa5
06-24-2011, 08:24 AM
It's not thatI am afraid of u but I am afraid of him..

Yeah, you don't argue with a guy who carries two .45's! :eek::);)

Bill K
06-24-2011, 08:53 AM
Could Melissa and Jocko both be right? I believe so. I have a Glock 26 and it takes, in my opinion, a lot of training and practices to perfect and maintain optimal use of the Glock's short trigger reset. Will you have the fine motor skill needed to shoot that way in a SD situation? For most of us I would say no - Jocko is right. Is it possible to train long enough and hard enough and under stress (like in competition) and use mental projection and other "sports" physiology techniques such that you'll shoot that way in a SD situation? For some of us I would say yes – Melisa is right.

Bill K.

jocko
06-24-2011, 09:00 AM
spoken like a true politician. MAKE NO ENEMIES!!!

Bill K
06-24-2011, 09:16 AM
spoken like a true politician. MAKE NO ENEMIES!!!

Oh, now you've done it! On reconsidering my position Melissa is right and Jocko has no clue. :)

jocko
06-24-2011, 09:17 AM
wsell at least u speak the truth!!!

Bawanna
06-24-2011, 10:51 AM
I know that all the officers here who are gun guys are obsessed with trigger reset. First thing they check when they pick up a gun for trial.
One thing they didn't like about the M&P Smith was they couldn't feel the reset. It has a nice short reset just like the XD and the Glock but it doesn't click.
I think when your doing a stare down with the elephant, trigger reset is gonna be a moot point but also if you do it all the time maybe it will show through.
Switching to different platforms would definitely mess with the system.

bonjorno2
06-24-2011, 12:34 PM
yes, at the federal academy, army mp school, and any other school i've attended they stress trigger reset, you press the trigger, follow thru and hold it... Like Jocko said in a self defense situation you won't even know the number of rounds you've fired (most of us) let alone keep yourself from slapping the trigger (most of us). For qualifying with either my M4 or M9 I always follow these fundamentals, but in a shtf situation I know that my body will do what it wants.

O'Dell
06-24-2011, 02:58 PM
I know that all the officers here who are gun guys are obsessed with trigger reset. First thing they check when they pick up a gun for trial.
One thing they didn't like about the M&P Smith was they couldn't feel the reset. It has a nice short reset just like the XD and the Glock but it doesn't click.
I think when your doing a stare down with the elephant, trigger reset is gonna be a moot point but also if you do it all the time maybe it will show through.
Switching to different platforms would definitely mess with the system.

Right on, Bawanna. I have 12 active pistols and carry 9 or 10 of them. Different guns for different occasions and dress, although I know it's not recommended. If I had to stop and consider trigger reset on each, I'd get off about two shots a minute. My son was police trained and he's always talking trigger reset - me, I don't worry much about it. I'm more concerned if the gun fits my hand, is reliable, and can I shoot it well without thinking about it.

jocko
06-24-2011, 03:18 PM
alittle story here, about 40+ years ago, I had my yellow lab in the business at night on a lease, I didn't want him prowling around but he would bark like a commanche if some one tried to get in and I also had a intercom system in the building going to my home which was right next door to the business.

anyway one night about 2 PM my intercome was talking to me and I could hear what I thought was footsteps going up stairs into my office,but no dog barking, so I panicked. I got my Ithaca Model 37 and put 5 rounds in it and proceeded out the back door of my house to the back door of my tire and sporting goods business. It was totally dark, I unlocked the door slowly and then I heard what I thought was footstps running down the stairs, I about sh-t. My heart was not where it should have been, when I flipped on the light, It was my yellow lab who had broken his lease and was running around like he owned the damn place. He was scared also as he had never been loose like that at night, so YES, he pissed all over the damn floors.

anyway I went back home to bed and when I got up for work the next day and was walking out the back door there in the dirt was a live `12 gauge shell that I guess I jacked right back out of the gun after I had loaded it. So my point for me anyhow is there is no way I could have been trying to feel that reset of the trigger on my Ithaca or any gun. When your heart is in ur a-s u IMO really have no clue as to what is going to happen. I guess one can train and hope to God if needed it will work out that way. But I just doubt it..

I might be off a few percentage points but quite a fewyears ago, a survey was taken of NYPD officders who had tofire their weapons. Over 60-% missed their target at less than 7 feet. Now we all know we can go out to the range and never miss a silhouette target at 7 feet,l just ain't possable, but maybe, just maybe when ur heart is in ur a-s, it might be very possable...

MW surveyor
06-24-2011, 03:18 PM
^^^O'Dell, I'm with you on this one.^^^

When practicing with my DA and SA pistols I let all of the triggers reset as they need to be. Don't really have to think about it even when shooting fast. Probably can count on one hand I've short stroked any trigger.

Dietrich
06-24-2011, 04:41 PM
AH HA!!I figured if I started this topic it would be good.Keep it up group.This is good stuff.

Bill K
06-24-2011, 05:10 PM
Here is some food for thought [short read]....

Do We Really Lose Fine Motor Skills under Shooting Stress? (http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/do-we-really-lose-fine-motor-skills-under-shooting-stress/)