New Glock 36

[Willieboy]

Well, I'm beginning to fell like Melissa given the rate at which I'm buying guns lately. Today I made the mistake of stopping in at a local gun shop and a G36 whispered in my ear that I should touch it. So I did. Then I bought the darn thing. I got what I think was a very good price of $508 + taxes and just couldn't pass it up.

I looked through my ammo supply, which is divided between pistol and rife ammo and found one single .45acp round, a 230 grain Federal Hydro-shok that's probable twenty years old. This evening, I plan to remove the fungus and green stuff from that fine cartridge and head o the range tomorrow. Just kidding.

Given the cost of ammo, I don't plan to shoot this gun very often, just enough to be sure it functions properly and then maybe once a year thereafter. I've ordered a Silent Thunder for it and think the combination will work well when it cools off here in Tejas.

While I was perusing the inventory in another LGS, I saw one of Colt's New Agents in .45acp. What a beautiful gun. Cost $975. I didn't touch it so it's still on the shelf at the shop.... thank God.

[500KV]

Good score Willieboy.
I've had my G36 about 6mos now and it is a joy to shoot, and carry.
Eats everything I feed it. Typical Glock. And 7 rounds of .45 aint' too shabby either.
Get into the reloading business now and you'll be all set. :)

[melissa5]

Congrats on the G36! I kind of wish I'd kept mine.

[bonjorno2]

sold my g36 and picked up a springer ultra compact loaded.... 890 OTD

[Willieboy]

Was yours reliable Mellissa? I hestiated buying it because I remember there were once problems with the G36. More recently though, reports seem positive.

[Willieboy]

Good score Willieboy.
I've had my G36 about 6mos now and it is a joy to shoot, and carry.
Eats everything I feed it. Typical Glock. And 7 rounds of .45 aint' too shabby either.
Get into the reloading business now and you'll be all set. :)

So far, I've been extremely pleased with Glocks. I have had a G26 for at least ten years and I've never had a single problem with it. I have a G19 too that has been 100% for the short time I've had it.

In my quest for a single stack .45, I wanted to look at a P45 or a PM45 but could find neither. Even had a found one though, I doubt I could have justified shelling out an additional $200+ over the Glock's price. Glocks really do offer a lot of reliability and durability for the money... if you can deal with the blocky grip.

[wayneo1]

Colt New Agent is my next gun. Good luck with your Glock.

[Willieboy]

Thanks Wayne. The New Agent I saw today was just beautiful. If you go window shopping for one, be sure to leave your wallet at home.

[kahrseye]

Good luck with your new G36. I'm sure you'll llike it. I sold mine to fund my PM45. Can't really say I miss it but I'm all about carryability and the PM45 wins in that category.

[PaiN]

Great find Willie...go enjoy that G36 and let know what you think.
I love my Glocks, I shoot them well and Glocks have never let me down function wise.

:( even the Sig P290 broke on me last night.

[melissa5]

Was yours reliable Mellissa? I hestiated buying it because I remember there were once problems with the G36. More recently though, reports seem positive.

It was about 99.9% reliable. Every so often I would have a failure to extract, but I probably just limp wristed it. At the time, I couldn't get over not having more than 6 rounds in a mag...now I carry a 1911. :der:

Those New Agents look great. :hippie:

[CJB]

all about carryability and the PM45 wins in that category.

Even if it fit, I'd not put a Glock in my pocket. I don't trust the trigger. The Kahr trigger... I trust. Like a revolver long throw. Been first hand witness to too many Glock trigger mishaps, just me I guess.

[Willieboy]

I would never pocket carry a naked Glock either.

[ipscshooter]

Good price on the G36. The one I bought 10 years ago was a bit more with NS. It's in my carry rotation still.

[JFootin]

Good luck with your new G36. I'm sure you'll llike it. I sold mine to fund my PM45. Can't really say I miss it but I'm all about carryability and the PM45 wins in that category.

I'm looking at the Sig-Sauer P250 Subcompact (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p250-subcompact-nitron.aspx) in 45 caliber. It's almost as compact as the PM45, it has a 6 lb trigger reportedly as good as the Kahr, it's surprisingly inexpensive (around $400), and it's a Sig—their motto: “To Hell and Back.” So, I expect it will be very reliable. You can buy extra parts to change the size and caliber of the gun. The reviews are very positive, and I haven't seen any negative feedback. I know the Glock is a good, dependable gun, and this one is pretty new on the scene, but I think Sig can be trusted with this important new gun in their lineup.

[Willieboy]

Good luck with your Sig if yoy buy it. I've never owned a Sig but shot a P228 once and it was the nuts.

[500KV]

I found this link to the Sig P250 owners forum that might be of interest.
http://www.p250sig.com/

The gun seems to have a considerable following with some good reviews.
I too am a big Sig fan, have 3, and mine have truly been "To Hell and Back" reliable.

I need to stay away from the LGS as well.
Now, go buy that thing and give us a review.

[JFootin]

I found this link to the Sig P250 owners forum that might be of interest.
http://www.p250sig.com/

The gun seems to have a considerable following with some good reviews.
I too am a big Sig fan, have 3, and mine have truly been "To Hell and Back" reliable.

I need to stay away from the LGS as well.
Now, go buy that thing and give us a review.

I've got to build up my new piggy bank for a while. Buying the Custom Polished CM9 (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7334) this month broke the old one! And I still have to get to the range or the country and start breaking in this puppy. Still need to buy a good supply of break in ammo and some extra mags, but have to wait until I get my next check. :33:

I haven't seen as many of the Subcompact P250s for sale, but the full size and compact ones can be found for well less than $400. You have to look a little harder for the 45s, especially in the Subcompact.

[Dietrich]

I have had my G36 for over a year now and it has been totally reliable.Easy to conceal and a joy to shoot.I hope you have the same success with yours and more than likely you will.The only downside was that my brain [what`s left of it ] started to work [as best it could] and I decided I needed a .45 with more capacity.So,I sold two safe queens and last weekend a model 30SF came home with me along with some other doodads that I needed.Mrs.Dietrich does not understand my reasoning. Women !!

[MikeyKahr]

So,I sold two safe queens and last weekend a model 30SF came home with me along with some other doodads that I needed.Mrs.Dietrich does not understand my reasoning. Women !!
Tell Mrs. Dietrich it's better than drag queens!!

[bonjorno2]

I've got to build up my new piggy bank for a while. Buying the Custom Polished CM9 (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7334) this month broke the old one! And I still have to get to the range or the country and start breaking in this puppy. Still need to buy a good supply of break in ammo and some extra mags, but have to wait until I get my next check. :33:

I haven't seen as many of the Subcompact P250s for sale, but the full size and compact ones can be found for well less than $400. You have to look a little harder for the 45s, especially in the Subcompact.

they don't make the 250 in 45acp subcompact, I've only seen 9-40 but check out buds...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

[bullet47]

I have a Glock 36 for several years now.In my opinion it handles better than my CW45,less kick and seems a little quieter.Never had any issues with it's reliability ! But I carry my CW45 because it carrys a little better.The CW has a slightly longer grip which sits right accross my beltline,whereas the 36 tends to point outward like I have a *****.Depending on the situation,maybe not so bad !:D

[JFootin]

they don't make the 250 in 45acp subcompact, I've only seen 9-40 but check out buds...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

The Sig-Sauer site doesn't say anything about the Subcompact not being available in 45, but that may be why Bud's and everybody else seem not to have them. I am going to make a phone call or 2 to find out. Thanks!

[JFootin]

they don't make the 250 in 45acp subcompact, I've only seen 9-40 but check out buds...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

I think you're right—no 45 Sub. While I was at Bud's, I was window shopping and came across this compact single-stack 45 from Taurus: the 745BP (http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=283&category=Pistol&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=). It is a nice 6+1 concealable package in 45 caliber. Tactical Tim had some good things to say about it:


http://www.tacticaltim.com/downloads/Taurus-PT745.pdf

(http://www.tacticaltim.com/downloads/Taurus-PT745.pdf)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL2nrAnE1yY

Bud's has it for $344 delivered to your FFL:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/11873

Not bad at all for a carry gun that'll put 7 big holes in the BG(s) when needed.

Another thing I like about it is the double-strike feature—a nice thing to have on a carry gun.

[bonjorno2]

i love those little taurus 45's i've owned the fatter 145 and it was just as good as my glock 30!

[JFootin]

I just found it a little cheaper: $342.99 with free shipping.

http://www.hornady.thegunsource.com/item/32642_Taurus_Hand_Guns_Pistols_TAU_PT745_45ACP_COM PACT_M.aspx

[O'Dell]

About four years ago I bought a compact 24/7 Pro 45. It actually worked well and I put almost 1000 trouble free rounds through it before I sold it. About a year later, based on the performance of the 24/7, I bought the slightly smaller PT745. I shot 270 rounds on my first range trip with the 745. Of those, I had 44 FTFeeds and 21 FTE's. I sent the pistol back to Miami where it stayed for 6 weeks. When I took it back to the range the FTE problem was better, but I had even more FTFeeds. I traded it back to the dealer for a compact M&P 45, which was a great gun until it was stolen.

That's the reason, along with a troublesome 709 Slim, that I won't buy another Taurus. When they work they're good guns and I like their designs, but when they don't, Taurus CS is the pits.

[jlottmc]

I'll agree on the CS part, but then again they did make my 740 right (only shipped with one mag). I own three right now and trust all them with my life. A friend of mine picked one up because he fell in love with mine, and as a cop it's his off duty. The LGS/indoor range I used to frequent, the manager would call and ask me to bring that same Taurus in so that he could play with it. I however hear that the millennium series might be better avoided though.

[jocko]

no excuse for 6 weeks.

[JFootin]

they don't make the 250 in 45acp subcompact, I've only seen 9-40 but check out buds...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

They do make it! I found one at Impact Guns! Backordered, but they do exist. :9:

http://www.impactguns.com/sig-p250-sub-compact-45acp-nite-sites-black-nitron-2505006-798681421305.aspx

[JFootin]

Well, not so sure. The header say 45 but the details says 9mm. A nice review, though:
"I got my self a P250 compact, very great and easy handling. I buy only this brand because it is 100% reliable, cold, hot, wet or dirt does not madder for a SIG product. I did service in the Swiss military for 16 years and did shoot several SIG weapons, never ever a problem. By KadiP26 from Florida"

[Bawanna]

The review seems generic on the P250 but not caliber specific.

It clearly list that a 45 is available or is destined to be. I've never seen one but it does say they exist.

I hereby designate you JFootin as the official Kahrtalk P250 (45 cal) beta tester. Find one, buy it, shoot the heck and gone (oh I think thats HK) out of it and report back.

No hurry, we'll wait.

I do hope the report will be veerrrry interesting.

[JFootin]

I sure will, Kimosabi—oops, I mean Bawanna. :yo: (I guess it depends on whether I'm channeling Tonto or Tarzan today. :D) But I need the Subcompact because, with my small, partially crippled hands, I need the thinner grip. That, and the Sig-Sauer reputation is why I am looking so hard for one.

I am also looking at the Taurus PT745. It is a nice compact package with second strike capability and good reports. It is also very inexpensive, which is another plus. Hard to find a nice, specifically molded holster for it, though. I think most people go for the higher capacity PT145 with a slightly fatter grip, so not as many PT745s are sold.

I know. I should look at the CW45. But one Kahr is enough for me right now. In the future, a K9 or MK9 with nice wood grips is a possibility, maybe an Elite. A man can dream, can't he? Funny. I used to dream about the fairer sex, but now I'm an old man and my interests have changed.

[Bawanna]

Keep your fingers crossed (unless that hurts of course), maybe the CM45 will appear in a timely fashion. That might be just the ticket for ya. And while I'll of course let you have the very first one, I want one too.

[bonjorno2]

yeah, i was told that they didn't have it in 45 in the sub form from a local dealer, and upon further internet searching I never actually saw one for sale... They just might make them, but I doubt it. Next time I talk to sig on the phone I'll ask.

[JFootin]

I called Sig and asked. They do exist, but Sig has other priorities right now. They have a list of orders for them, but it will be sometime next year before we see them.

[bonjorno2]

lol, figures thanks maybe i'll give one a shot when they are around... assuming they go for less that 400 with night sights.

[JFootin]

A dealer CS employee said that Sig had some production issues with them, so that is the reason for the delay.