How many rounds do you have through your P380?

[RenegadeRebel]

So as many of you know, I have a P380 with not many rounds through it (200), and already the firing pin broke off the striker.

Before that, I was having many many failures with the gun (stovepipes, failure to feeds, etc). But in the guns defense, I did not lube it properly, and I wassn't holding it tight. I think once I fix those two issues it will run great.

None the less, I feel that this gun might not be as reliable as say a glock 26 or something similar. Mostly because of all the threads that are started about all the trouble people are having with them...

I was wondering how many rounds you guys have through your P380's; and how many malfunctions you have had throughout those rounds. Dont ignore this thread if you have a P380 that has always been great, or had one that you fixed and now it runs great. I really want to hear from those people too!

Can this gun get to the point reliability wise where it could serve as my main carry gun? Or should I relegate it to my range toy or something similar because it is just too finicky?

Thanks guys.

[Cokeman]

I have 180 rounds with 10 malfs. I carry it all the time. I carried it all day today.

[RenegadeRebel]

Thats about a 6 percent failure rate...Im surprised you have faith in it to protect your life when (at the current rate) 6 times out of 100 it will fail on you. In my opinion, even a 1 percent fail rate is far FAR FAR too high...But thats just me...

Thanks for the info non-the-less, it is appreciated.

Any one else wanna chime in with their record?

[jocko]

as long as one knows EXACTLY what the failure was then IMO he can feel confident or non confident. If I limnp a gun or hit the slide lock lever or hit the magazine release this is not a gun issue it is a shooter issue. I can and will correct that. I myself would not have good confidence in a 6% failure rate unless I caused it and these little P380 issues are indeed shooter error and correctable.

Would ford be acceptable to a 6% front end failure???Absolutely not, nor would any company.If cokeman is comnforatble with his statementy who are we to say anything but give our opinion, which we all are entittled to but does not mean we are right.

[jocko]

So as many of you know, I have a P380 with not many rounds through it (200), and already the firing pin broke off the striker.

Before that, I was having many many failures with the gun (stovepipes, failure to feeds, etc). But in the guns defense, I did not lube it properly, and I wassn't holding it tight. I think once I fix those two issues it will run great.

None the less, I feel that this gun might not be as reliable as say a glock 26 or something similar. Mostly because of all the threads that are started about all the trouble people are having with them...

I was wondering how many rounds you guys have through your P380's; and how many malfunctions you have had throughout those rounds. Dont ignore this thread if you have a P380 that has always been great, or had one that you fixed and now it runs great. I really want to hear from those people too!

Can this gun get to the point reliability wise where it could serve as my main carry gun? Or should I relegate it to my range toy or something similar because it is just too finicky?

Thanks guys.

are reliable but only you will know if UR p380 IS RELIABLE. Soime have had issues. mine had to go back but I feel today it is reliable. I don't shoot it alot, nor hardly carry it. Not sure why now I even bought it but I will not sell it for I do think it is one of the nicest 380's on the makret but it has had some growinbg pains. These damn guns are so so small that they are finicky in a sorta way. Shooter error is magnified in the little guns, and not just kahrs. I read on the lcp forum all the time about this. both guns are basically close in size and weight. I feel myself if the P380 is gonna be ur carry pease shoot the living piss out of it, get it looser than a goose (which will never hgappen) but it will get so so smooth with rounds and cycling action. Then you might have a peace that you canb say, yup I stake my life on it for now the gun is running right and also the shooter has totally adjusted to the guns desires. the gun and shooter MUST work together to be right.

[nobody]

I have about 500 rounds through mine - several different ammo's. Had some problems with FRTB at first. Now she will go a good 75 to 100 rounds with no problems. By then she is so dirty the FRTB returns and I know it's time to clean. While I can go longer with other pistols, I feel confident with this gun since when I carry it, it is as clean as can be!

[AlanS]

Mine is currently at Kahr (see related thread here). My sense is I am probably at fault for some of the issues in the 500 rounds I've fired. But since I tried to compensate for this, adjusting grip/stance, and still had failures, I believe the pistol is itself at fault for some of the issues. Like I said, it's at the Kahr factory now, so I'd like to get their feedback before I make any definite statements. At this time, I do not feel confident about the weapon. That's why I sent it back to the manufacturer.

Alan

[DJK11]

I've had my P380 for 11 months and just past 3,000 rnds.. It went back to Kahr at 550 rnds. Fail to feed and fail to return to battery. They changed some parts and springs and it was fine. Mine was sooo tight, I would have black plastic on my shooting hand from the slide scraping the frame rails. This stopped at about 700 rnds. The firing pin broke at 900 rnds. and the extractor broke at 2600 rnds. I've installed the new heavier recoil spring changed the other springs and use the Wolffs extra heavy Kaltec mag springs. Funny thing is I've ran more than 500 hollow points Gold Dot, Gold Saber, U. Home Defence, Hornady CD and others WITHOUT a malfunction even before it was sent back to Kahr CS. This thing is 100% reliable.

[OldLincoln]

You are having issues with the gun, which may go away as it breaks in or may need factory service. That said, the 380 by all manufacturers is a small gun and if concealed carry size can be difficult to get comfortable with for a while. I had a wonderful Colt PocketLite Mustang that shot well but I could not get comfortable shooting it. It is a hard to find beautiful collectible quality gun and I was able to sell it for enough to buy the PM9 and accessories. The PM9 fits well and I enjoy shooting it.

My point is you have to decide if it would be the gun for you even if it were 100% reliable. If so, then you may want to hang here and try to resolve the issues. It will never be like a 9mm Glock 26. If you want a very concealable pistol you are more comfortable with look at the CM9. It's smaller than the G26 and most here really like theirs.

[bonjorno2]

750 rounds, bought it second hand and it got a tune up from kahr before I got it because of some feeding issues.

[Cokeman]

Thats about a 6 percent failure rate...Im surprised you have faith in it to protect your life when (at the current rate) 6 times out of 100 it will fail on you. In my opinion, even a 1 percent fail rate is far FAR FAR too high...But thats just me...

Thanks for the info non-the-less, it is appreciated.

Any one else wanna chime in with their record?

That may be the case, but what you don't know and therefore are not taking into account is that those failures all happened right at first and that I fixed the problem. It's worked perfect since.

[downlow]

I've put between 400-500 rnds through my gun. It has the 2 screw sideplate. The first 100 rounds I had several issues. But I did not do the Jocko lube break in. I also think with normal wear it has gotten alot smoother compared to when I first got it new.
My gun was a little picky with RWS and Remington ammo, although I shot half a box of RWS this weekend with no problems. I usually run the Winchester white box and Hornady critical defense. I do not plan on using +P rounds in my gun.
I carry my gun all day with confidence.

[jocko]

That may be the case, but what you don't know and therefore are not taking into account is that those failures all happened right at first and that I fixed the problem. It's worked perfect since.

probably had u told us that , no one would have questioned reliablilty. I would not settle for 6% failure rate after 200+ rounds but during what kahr and myself call break in time, I would accetpt that percentage rate and even more, if every round seemed toshow progress towards reliability...

U got a dandy P380. just hard to not like um when they run right. to me they just look like a damn gun even, .. I shoot mine better than my PM9, but I seem tobe able to throw rocksw better than my PM9, so go figure.

[RenegadeRebel]

Hey guys, my P380 ran much better last tuesday when I hit the range. Out of about 60 rounds, I only had 1 malfuntion...It was a stove pipe with BuffaloBore...I thank the lube diagram and also the advice to hold it tight.

On Independance day im going to run another 200 rounds through her and I will report back.

[TominCA]

Mine has about 700 rounds - They need lube (I use Mil-Tech with a little oil on some spots) Anyhow, I cleaned it and lightly oiled it, then it sat in its leather holster for 3 weeks. When I got to the range the slide operation was sluggish and I had bot stove pipes - even with the hot stuff like Corbon) and also light primer strikes which is a failure to go completely into battery.

I had some CLP with me and put some of that on it - No change. I then found a little needle oiler filled with some sort of gun oil I got as a freebie at the Shot Show in my range box. A few squirts of that fixed it and it started running right. I had never let it sit so long before - I suspect that my slide or barrel is slightly out of spec because just being a little dry should not have had that much result. There is a little too much friction somewhere and I need to keep oil on that area - where ever it is.

[CJB]

I have a P380...and already the firing pin broke off the striker.

Before that, I was having many many failures with the gun (stovepipes, failure to feeds, etc). But in the guns defense, I did not lube it properly, and I wassn't holding it tight. I think once I fix those two issues it will run great.

Mostly because of all the threads that are started about all the trouble people are having with them...



From the bottom up -
All small frame 380's can be temperamental. Its the size and weight, coupled with the spring tensions needed. The smaller and lighter... the more the shooter comes into the equation. Ammo too.

How about fixing up the pistol, which Kahr will do, or they'll send you the part, and giving it another chance after a good lube and proper shooting technique?

And - its human nature to kvetch about problems while never saying a thing about expected good results. We recently had a tongue in cheek thread about the gun having a problem since it was operating with no malfunctions!

The breakage of a firing pin is not very common. Won't say it wont happen, but there's not too many examples of that on the forum.

Don't get down on the gun - they're good! Also realize that sometimes, some shooters have problems with a certain model of gun. Size, weight, ergonomics, all those little factors that make the gun what it is..... just dont get along with the shooter and vice versa. That happens! Most of us blame the gun (its never MY fault...!!!!). Really, its no fault, no blame, just a question of incompatibility.